SARS-2-CoV (COVID-19)

[DaveTN]

46 minutes ago, Chucktshoes said:

PSA: remember folks, the word is "martial." Martial law. It's not named after one guy.

Are you sure? I thought it was something Matt Dillon started when bad guys came to Dodge City.

Also, you can’t comment about PSA; that's HIPAA protected information.

Edited March 16, 2020 by DaveTN

[felinesNfreedom]

59 minutes ago, Magiccarpetrides said:

I think this market has made it abundantly clear there are NO safe havens in a panic.  Cash is the best safe haven and if you don't believe in cash then just stock up on dried food and canned goods if that's your actual belief.  Course if you think that way you probably don't invest.

Got cash, gold, silver, mountain house and plenty of canned goods and frozen food. Should be good to go. We started planning for this shortly after things went south in China.

[DaveTN]

The President has asked that we limit 10 people in a thread at a time. 

[MacGyver]

Nashville schools closed through April 3.

Governor Lee asking all districts to close through the 31st. 

[Chucktshoes]

25 minutes ago, MacGyver said:

Nashville schools closed through April 3.

Governor Lee asking all districts to close through the 31st. 

Just got word today, Crockett County schools closed through 4/3. 

[AuEagle]

First Responders.

Edited March 16, 2020 by AuEagle

[Grand Torino]

So this is a post I saw on a blog and there no references to back it up but I was wondering what you guys think of it.

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2009-2010 Swine Flu infected 60 million Americans, Hospitalized 300,000 and killed 60,000 and none of this silly #### happened. Unless you were personally affected, you don’t even remember H1N1. Please everyone... TURN OFF CNN and just wash your damn hands often FFS. You are being led by your short hairs to the destruction of the US Economy for one simple reason... NOV 2020. Wake the F up America!!

 

[Erik88]

We taking bets on which industries get a bailout first? Airlines? Hotels? 

 

[DaveTN]

15 minutes ago, Grand Torino said:

So this is a post I saw on a blog and there no references to back it up but I was wondering what you guys think of it.

 

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https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trumps-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic-spin/

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were about 60.8 million cases of infection with the novel type of influenza virus in the U.S. between April 2009 and April 2010, with a total of approximately 274,304 hospitalizations and 12,469 deaths.

While that death toll may sound high, it’s over an entire year and, in fact, ended up being far lower than was initially expected. The strain of influenza also turned out to have a case fatality rate of just 0.02% — well below even many typical seasonal influenzas.

Everything that’s known about the new coronavirus so far suggests that it’s an entirely different beast than its most recent pandemic predecessor. Peter Jay Hotez, a professor and dean of the tropical medicine school at Baylor College of Medicine, told us that the new virus, which is known as SARS-CoV-2, is considerably more transmissible and more lethal than H1N1.

For those reasons, he said, “the urgency to contain this coronavirus is so much greater than the H1N1 2009 one was.”

 

[maroonandwhite]

14 minutes ago, Grand Torino said:

So this is a post I saw on a blog and there no references to back it up but I was wondering what you guys think of it.

 

I don’t really know at this point. I’m on an information overload and don’t know who to believe. I do believe that regardless of logic or the truth, this train is already headed down the tracks and isn’t stopping soon. It’s clear that the populace can be panicked easily and I’m just along for the ride. I’m going to believe the basic distancing principles and hope for the best.

[Garufa]

17 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

We taking bets on which industries get a bailout first? Airlines? Hotels? 

 

I bet hotels are a strong contender considering...

[MacGyver]

The overall mortality with H1N1 was a lot lower than what we're seeing here - from April 2009 to April 2010 - H1N1 killed 12,469 people - with an overall mortality rate of 0.02%

 

[DaveTN]

5 minutes ago, maroonandwhite said:

I don’t really know at this point. I’m on an information overload and don’t know who to believe. I do believe that regardless of logic or the truth, this train is already headed down the tracks and isn’t stopping soon. It’s clear that the populace can be panicked easily and I’m just along for the ride. I’m going to believe the basic distancing principles and hope for the best.

I think that’s how most of us feel. One of the major differences here is that while many of the folks, especially the older ones, fear getting the virus, the fear of what this could do to our economy is shared by young and old both.

[gregintenn]

22 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

We taking bets on which industries get a bailout first? Airlines? Hotels? 

 

I’ll put a dollar on cruise ships.

[DaveTN]

3 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

I’ll put a dollar on cruise ships.

I would take that bet.… the Airlines are required for National Security, Hotels, not so much, and we don’t need cruise ships for anything.

[Garufa]

18 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

I would take that bet.… the Airlines are required for National Security, Hotels, not so much, and we don’t need cruise ships for anything.

Of the three you mentioned, the President is only personally involved in one that I am aware of.

Edited March 16, 2020 by Garufa

[Moped]

Not sure it was mentioned, but Knox County Schools are closed through 4/3. Rumors are circulating that sporting events, proms and graduations may be cancelled.

This afternoon, my company told everyone that was capable of working from home, to take their computers, monitors and any other equipment they thought they might need, home, for at least the next two weeks. I expect it to be longer. Nationwide we employee close to 900 people. I suspect about half of them will be working from home.

[Erik88]

This woman has a good point. It is both frustrating and concerning to me that corporations with billions of dollars in revenue are already demanding a bailout.  Just a month ago we supposedly had one of the strongest economies in many years. Did no one learn from 08? 

 

 

 

[AuEagle]

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/plan-cash-handouts-gains-steam-congress-consumption-collapses

[TripleGGG]

1 hour ago, Erik88 said:

We taking bets on which industries get a bailout first? Airlines? Hotels? 

 

Airlines. It was mentioned in the press conference today a few times. 

[TGO David]

7 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

This woman has a good point. It is both frustrating and concerning to me that corporations with billions of dollars in revenue are already demanding a bailout.  Just a month ago we supposedly had one of the strongest economies in many years. Did no one learn from 08? 

She has a damned good point.

[MacGyver]

1 hour ago, Erik88 said:

We taking bets on which industries get a bailout first? Airlines? Hotels? 

 

Airlines are considered critical infrastructure.

Passengers aside, they’re filled with cargo.

They’re also in tenuous financial positions (as always) - so they’re probably a week or so away from needing to be bailed out. 

[Snaveba]

23 minutes ago, Erik88 said:

This woman has a good point. It is both frustrating and concerning to me that corporations with billions of dollars in revenue are already demanding a bailout.  Just a month ago we supposedly had one of the strongest economies in many years. Did no one learn from 08? 

 

 

 

Because our economy was not really that strong. Regardless of what Trump said.  It looked good on paper, and the Markets looked good, but WAY too much debt. 

[TGO David]

On 3/15/2020 at 8:19 AM, gregintenn said:

To clarify my earlier post, I do not dismiss anything David or MacGyver say. They are head and shoulders above me intellectually, but I just can't see this being nearly as bad as is reported.

I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm head and shoulders above anyone in any category, at all.  Ever.  I try really hard to be the dumbest guy in the room.  That said, the "room" I sit in every Monday through Friday (and a lot of Saturdays and a few Sundays lately) is full of some incredibly smart minds when it comes to medical knowledge. 

I really am not allowed to say anything that could conceivably be construed as being anything other than my own thoughts and opinions only and absolutely not the official position of my employer.  So, this is just me saying:  I have no reason to believe that this epidemic is being overblown and every reason to believe that it's not.  I also believe that we really have no appreciation yet for how bad it could get here.

As a country we got a really good advance warning from Asia and Europe.  The travel restrictions that Trump administration put in place early bought us a lot of time compared to what the rest of the world got.  The people who have opted to self-quarantine have likely helped slow the roll of COVID-19, but I think that's really all we can do.  We're not going to stop it but we can slow it down and keep the outbreak from crushing our hospitals and forcing doctors here to make the sort of life and death decisions as they are in Italy.

Our inherent belligerence as a nation is part of why we are a nation but it's also really unhelpful when the time comes for the people to acquiesce when the government asks us to not indulge in certain freedoms -- like partying on lower Broadway in Nashville during a worldwide pandemic.

So, I think it is very likely that the government will soon change its posture from "asking" to "telling" and we will see a lot of restrictions on life as a result.  All because some folks aren't going to have it suggested that they should limit their lifestyle until this blows over.

 

I hope I'm wrong. 

 

 

[Snaveba]

27 minutes ago, Moped said:

Not sure it was mentioned, but Knox County Schools are closed through 4/3. Rumors are circulating that sporting events, proms and graduations may be cancelled.

This afternoon, my company told everyone that was capable of working from home, to take their computers, monitors and any other equipment they thought they might need, home, for at least the next two weeks. I expect it to be longer. Nationwide we employee close to 900 people. I suspect about half of them will be working from home.

The company I work for employs about 22,000 world wide.  We have been told the same thing.

I did start a few days early, but with extenuating circumstances.