ad-closed Wanted: Surplus M17 REWARD!

[BimmerFreak]

I'm looking for one of the surplus Sig M17 pistols.  I'm not going to pay the speculator prices being offered on Gunbroker, so if anyone stumbles across one (or more) in your local gunshop, please let me know.

I am offering a 50.00 cash reward or a 200.00 Battle Mug to the person that helps me locate a fair priced M17.

Thanks in advance.

[DaveTN]

Joe, They had to come through a Sig Dealer. You don’t know any SIG dealers that have any? What does GT Distributors say?

They only cost $600 new. People will pay a bunch more for surplus gun that is still in production?

[hlb14]

Might give outpost armory a call, they had one on gunbroker last night.  

[Trekbike]

Regarding the search for a military surplus M17, due to the young age of the pistols, I'm confused on how there would be any "decommissioned" pistols at this point for sale?    Inquiring minds want to know...

[Erich]

24 minutes ago, Trekbike said:

Regarding the search for a military surplus M17, due to the young age of the pistols, I'm confused on how there would be any "decommissioned" pistols at this point for sale?    Inquiring minds want to know...

" originally issued by the U.S. Army and fielded during the initial domestic and in-theater deployment of the Modular Handgun System "

The last thing I had seen indicated that the initial runs had not locked the color down and once they did, and the initial ones were not the final color variant selected.

 

[Magiccarpetrides]

Sounds like typical SIG hype to unload a product that normally isn't a hot seller.  If I see one i'll message you no reward needed but I think its a typical cash grab.

[Junkstack]

2 hours ago, Trekbike said:

Regarding the search for a military surplus M17, due to the young age of the pistols, I'm confused on how there would be any "decommissioned" pistols at this point for sale?    Inquiring minds want to know...

Sig changed some things on the gun at the request of the Army. Instead of the Army keeping them, an unknown number went back to Sig and they’re selling them (3000-5000 of them but supposedly closer to 3000).

 

Directly from Sig managers, “they’re all shipped to distributors/dealers and there will be no more” (unless there is some unforeseen supply that the Army gives up for some strange reason, which isn’t at all likely to happen). These are the real deal guns that were issued and deployed stateside and overseas. 
 

https://www.sigsauer.com/m17-surplus/

[MikeW]

What is a fair price?

[Junkstack]

Bimmer, if you want one at this point your beat bet is to drop $1200 on a gunbroker auction. The market is drying up, having gone from >100, to 80’s, now to 60’s auctions on gunbroker over the past two weeks. The prices are rising ~$100 per week this passes and once the store supply dries up, the prices will rise more. 
 

edit: if you sort m17 surplus results on gunbroker by low to high price, the lowest aren’t at the first. There are a few $1200 listed for buy now at the opposite end of where they should be in the pricing. 

[Junkstack]

1 minute ago, MikeW said:

What is a fair price?

$1200 or less is basically a buy it now at this point. I think MSRP was $699 but once they hit shelves most stores were marking them up immediately due to the finite supply. Some small shops my have one sitting around but well known places have since sold out. 

[MikeW]

6 minutes ago, Junkstack said:

$1200 or less is basically a buy it now at this point. I think MSRP was $699 but once they hit shelves most stores were marking them up immediately due to the finite supply. Some small shops my have one sitting around but well known places have since sold out. 

Plus some people are hoarding them up

 

[Junkstack]

23 minutes ago, MikeW said:

Plus some people are hoarding them up

 

Yep, I’ve got four that will have various purposes. 

[Lsparks]

Interesting !   I would like one also.  But no way im paying anywhere close to 1200 for one.  
Is there a current commercial model that is the exact same as the M17 but without the M17 designation ??

[Lsparks]

Is this the gun ???   I just found one for $568.00.  If it is PM me.  I dont want reward either.  Just knowledge on these guns.   Hell we could buy em all and list on gunbroker ourselves if so.  

[quedz]

https://www.pewpewtactical.com/sig-sauer-p320-m17-review/

[Lsparks]

I can see it is not the same.  But i did answer my own question about a commercial version.  LEO/ First responders can get em for $535 (with safety on back order) and $565 w/o safety and they are in stock at proven outfitters.  
 

[SonnyCrockett]

its ridiculous whats these used ones are being hoarded for they def are not going to go up in value like a ole 1911 and with the Centennial models out which is the identical gun but NEW it will always keep a surplus from going up. in a few years I am guessing the surps will be way less.

[DaveTN]

56 minutes ago, SonnyCrockett said:

its ridiculous whats these used ones are being hoarded for they def are not going to go up in value like a ole 1911 and with the Centennial models out which is the identical gun but NEW it will always keep a surplus from going up. in a few years I am guessing the surps will be way less.

You just never know. I didn’t think anyone would pay CMP $1000 for those junk 1911’s we used in the military. But they did, and they are. You can buy a new 1911 for a Grand that is light years ahead of any of that junk. But they aren’t buying it for a 1911 handgun; they are paying a grand for military nostalgia.

If someone would have told us in the 70’s what would be going on with 1911’s today; we would have been laughing all day about it.

[MikeW]

Well just for fun, look at the M45a1 decommissioned USMC 1911s vs. the civilian M45a1. It is the exact same pistol but I guarentee that one cost about three times as much as the other (or much more).

Anyone that thinks that the M17 surplus will not cost more than a new civilian version can come to me at any time in the future...I will buy the old surplus M17 for the cost of a brand new M17 or any other $700 pistol that you may want.

[Il Duce]

On 2/4/2020 at 11:20 AM, DaveTN said:

Joe, They had to come through a Sig Dealer. You don’t know any SIG dealers that have any? What does GT Distributors say?

They only cost $600 new. People will pay a bunch more for surplus gun that is still in production?

We don’t have them

[SonnyCrockett]

12 hours ago, DaveTN said:

You just never know. I didn’t think anyone would pay CMP $1000 for those junk 1911’s we used in the military. But they did, and they are. You can buy a new 1911 for a Grand that is light years ahead of any of that junk. But they aren’t buying it for a 1911 handgun; they are paying a grand for military nostalgia.

If someone would have told us in the 70’s what would be going on with 1911’s today; we would have been laughing all day about it.

the CMP 1911s are sold out but not without detractors,as a collector they are frankenguns and I have no use for that nor do any 1911 collectors I know of.

[Will]

Some Collectors  have a use for a  CMP 1911  Frankengun, bids on Gunbroker now @two grand for one right now.

[Wdodd]

On ‎2‎/‎8‎/‎2020 at 7:01 PM, DaveTN said:

You just never know. I didn’t think anyone would pay CMP $1000 for those junk 1911’s we used in the military. But they did, and they are. You can buy a new 1911 for a Grand that is light years ahead of any of that junk. But they aren’t buying it for a 1911 handgun; they are paying a grand for military nostalgia.

If someone would have told us in the 70’s what would be going on with 1911’s today; we would have been laughing all day about it.

 

12 hours ago, SonnyCrockett said:

the CMP 1911s are sold out but not without detractors,as a collector they are frankenguns and I have no use for that nor do any 1911 collectors I know of.

 

Frankenguns they may be, but I will take one of those (and did with no hesitation) without a moments hesitation. 

I am not a "collector" but more of an "accumulator" liking old weapons, old motorcycles,  old broads and old whiskey...…..and oh yeah, also old dogs and watermelon wine!! 

Guess that is why I would choose a '57 Chevy over a new one with all its bells and whistles.

But, then again, I am just an old fart, so what do I know??

 

 

[SonnyCrockett]

10 hours ago, Will said:

Some Collectors  have a use for a  CMP 1911  Frankengun, bids on Gunbroker now @two grand for one right now.

for a few bucks more you can have a real take back...you just have to know what to look for

[hlb14]

Not looking for a finders fee but Outpost Armory posted another on gunbroker today.