"Breaking News" Kobe Bryant Killed in Helicopter Crash

[The Legion]

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/california-helicopter-crash-calabasas-brush-fire-fatalities-reported

Edited January 26, 2020 by The Legion

[btq96r]

And it's being reported he was on the way to a travel basketball game with his daughter on the helicopter, as well as another player/parent combo.  So sad for both of their families and the pilot's family. 

Edited January 26, 2020 by btq96r

[Quavodus]

Sorry to hear that.

[FUJIMO]

Now saying 9 dead.

No mention of another player but that would be even more terrible 

[Omega]

  On 1/26/2020 at 11:01 PM, FUJIMO said:

Now saying 9 dead.

No mention of another player but that would be even more terrible 

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How?  It's terrible when there is loss of life, no matter who it is.  Nothing against you personally, many people are the same way, but I get tired of holding celebrities higher than regular people when they die.

I'm not a Bball fan, but at least this wasn't one of those trouble making individuals we hear about in the news, and I'm sure we will be hearing about this the whole week if not longer.  I sure hate to hear his daughter was with him, it is sure to be  heartbreaking  for the mother..

[FUJIMO]

  On 1/27/2020 at 12:58 AM, Omega said:

How?  It's terrible when there is loss of life, no matter who it is.  Nothing against you personally, many people are the same way, but I get tired of holding celebrities higher than regular people when they die.

I'm not a Bball fan, but at least this wasn't one of those trouble making individuals we hear about in the news, and I'm sure we will be hearing about this the whole week if not longer.  I sure hate to hear his daughter was with him, it is sure to be  heartbreaking  for the mother..

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Answer to your how. Imagine if your son was a lower level player or a bench warmer and died in that crash with the God that was Kobe Bryant . For the record that was sarcasm and I am NOT a Bball fan nor a worshiper of celebrities.

Your son's death while equally as tragic and heartbreaking will be eclipsed and end up a mention in the back pages compared to the long story that will be the life and death of KB .

I'm in agreement with you @Omega. And while I'm sure I'll get flamed for this I'll go a step further and say that ol KB might still be around had he chosen a limo to the game instead of the ill fated chopper.  But that's the blessing and curse of having that kind of money and celebrity status. Hes not the first to die in private flight and wont be the last. It's the risk you take.

Edited January 27, 2020 by FUJIMO
GD autocorrect!

[Chucktshoes]

Sometimes the the best thing to say is nothing at all. 

[KahrMan]

  On 1/27/2020 at 12:58 AM, Omega said:

I'm not a Bball fan, but at least this wasn't one of those trouble making individuals we hear about in the news

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Well except for that whole rape thing a few years ago that he paid to make go away. 

[Omega]

  On 1/27/2020 at 5:11 AM, KahrMan said:

Well except for that whole rape thing a few years ago that he paid to make go away. 

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Yea, had forgotten about that.  But I still think he was in the news less often than many of these other sports figures.  Even so, I'm sure none of the talking heads will care either way, they will just hold him up on a pedestal like all celebs.

[Capbyrd]

  On 1/27/2020 at 12:58 AM, Omega said:

How?  It's terrible when there is loss of life, no matter who it is.  Nothing against you personally, many people are the same way, but I get tired of holding celebrities higher than regular people when they die.

I'm not a Bball fan, but at least this wasn't one of those trouble making individuals we hear about in the news, and I'm sure we will be hearing about this the whole week if not longer.  I sure hate to hear his daughter was with him, it is sure to be  heartbreaking  for the mother..

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You misunderstood what he meant by "another player."   Kobe was taking his 13 year old daughter to one of her games.  So another player in this case is another 13 year old girl.   Not a celebrity.   Not someone rich and famous.   Just a girl who wanted to play ball and got in the wrong vehicle.   That's sad.  

[Omega]

  On 1/27/2020 at 2:00 PM, Capbyrd said:

You misunderstood what he meant by "another player."   Kobe was taking his 13 year old daughter to one of her games.  So another player in this case is another 13 year old girl.   Not a celebrity.   Not someone rich and famous.   Just a girl who wanted to play ball and got in the wrong vehicle.   That's sad.  

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We know this now, but the statement was "No mention of another player but that would be even more terrible", which is what I was responding to.  None the less, sad, even sadder that the headlines seem to all mention "Kobe Bryant, his 13 yo daughter, and 7 others" as if the rest don't matter, which @FUJIMO was eluding to in the first place.  

[Erik88]

It's starting to look like pilot error is likely. It looks like the pilot thought he was at a much higher altitude and visibility was poor. The last transmission before they drop off radar is ATC warning him he's too low.

A lot of aviation experts on Reddit are saying they shouldn't have been flying in those conditions.

 

 

Edited January 27, 2020 by Erik88

[E4 No More]

The news this morning stated that this particular Sikorsky helicopter was a designed to fly in zero visibility. Many aircraft do that. It sounds to me like a case of bad  happens when instruments go wrong.

[DaveTN]

  On 1/27/2020 at 3:32 PM, E4 No More said:

The news this morning stated that this particular Sikorsky helicopter was a designed to fly in zero visibility. Many aircraft do that. It sounds to me like a case of bad  happens when instruments go wrong.

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I agree. Of course, no one knows what happened and we are all guessing, until the NTSB tells us what happened. But they showed yesterday that the helicopter was flying at 150 knots, slowed to around 50 for awhile and then sped back up to 150 before crashing. They kept showing the crash site yesterday and I don’t know if it was all debris from the wreck, or if something was already there; but the debris field looked massive. It made he think the pilot flew into a hill at 150 knots.

[TomInMN]

One of the challenges for pilots learning IFR (instrument- rather than vision-based flying) is actually learning to believe what the instruments, like an artificial horizon or altimeter, are telling you rather than what your body and intuition are telling you. 

[QuackerSmacker]

With the equipment on this Sikorsky S-76 any pilot worth his salt could fly around in pea soup fog all day with no problem.  Something was wrong with the pilot, or the equipment, or (very unlikely) both.   

[QuackerSmacker]

ATC audio just released.  Really looks like the pilot completely messed up.  So sad.

[Erik88]

  On 1/27/2020 at 10:37 PM, QuackerSmacker said:

ATC audio just released.  Really looks like the pilot completely messed up.  So sad.

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I already said this exact same thing hours ago and posted the audio...

[Durow]

Prayers for all families involved.......

[gregintenn]

Imagine how great a place this would be if people thought half as much about the death of Jesus as they do this clown.

[TomInMN]

  On 1/28/2020 at 12:15 AM, gregintenn said:

Imagine how great a place this would be if people thought half as much about the death of Jesus as they do this clown.

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That would be great! One of my favorites from Jesus is Matthew 7:1-5.

[Omega]

  On 1/28/2020 at 12:27 AM, TomInMN said:

That would be great! One of my favorites from Jesus is Matthew 7:1-5.

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Cute.

[Capbyrd]

  On 1/28/2020 at 12:15 AM, gregintenn said:

Imagine how great a place this would be if people thought half as much about the death of Jesus as they do this clown.

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Some of us have Jesus in our heart always and still make room for other humans.  You know, as Jesus would want us to do.  

[gregintenn]

I didn’t intend to offend anyone, but should have seen it coming. I just do not understand why our society elevates athletes, actors, etc. to sainthood status or beyond simply because they have a specific talent.

I’ve not seen it mentioned here that one of our planes went down in Afghanistan a few days ago. It was barely mentioned in the news. 

[DaveTN]

  On 1/28/2020 at 1:42 PM, gregintenn said:

I didn’t intend to offend anyone, but should have seen it coming. I just do not understand why our society elevates athletes, actors, etc. to sainthood status or beyond simply because they have a specific talent.

I’ve not seen it mentioned here that one of our planes went down in Afghanistan a few days ago. It was barely mentioned in the news. 

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No one is elevating him to sainthood status. He was exceptional in his field and one of the few good role models for kids in the game. If that had been Jerry Miculek, Julie Golob, or even Shane Coley, it would have been talked about here (because they are exceptional in their field) but probably not on the news much.

When a few people are morning their loss; it won’t make national news. When hundreds of thousands are; it will.