New Muzzleloader Design from Shot Show 2020

[KahrMan]

Federal has come out with the Federal Fire Stick.  It is a prepackaged 100gr or 120gr load.  Currently only Traditions makes a muzzleloader that it will work in.  

Not having a breech plug is a big advantage to me.  I am interested to see if Encore comes out with a barrel that this work in.

 

Edited January 24, 2020 by KahrMan

[Chris]

That's cool but can we use it in Tn during muzzleloader season? Technically it's a breech loader. 

 

[Chris]

I looked it up. Sure enough that would be illegal to use in TN during muzzleloader season. From the Hunting Guide:

7. Muzzleloading firearms are defined as those firearms which are incapable of being loaded from the breech.

http://www.eregulations.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/19TNHD-LR8.pdf

[Chris]

Ok, I see now. My bad. The bullet loads from the muzzle and the fire stick from the breech. Interesting.

[quedz]

23 minutes ago, Chris said:

7. Muzzleloading firearms are defined as those firearms which are incapable of being loaded from the breech.

What would keep someone from loading the bullet from the breech?

[Ronald_55]

Looks like a shotgun to me.....

[quedz]

10 minutes ago, hughd said:

What would keep someone from loading the bullet from the breech?

Cancel that, I just looked at the diagram... So I guess it depends on what the meaning of loaded is.

https://www.federalpremium.com/firestick.html

Edited January 25, 2020 by hughd
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[Chris]

No doubt. It's probably legal but I think it could lead to a very awkward conversation with a TWRA officer.

[MacGyver]

I expect the breech end is at least a few thousandths narrower than the bullet diameter to prevent breech loading, no?

Their diagram doesn’t look like it - but surely there’s a rim or something.

 

[quedz]

1 hour ago, MacGyver said:

I expect the breech end is at least a few thousandths narrower than the bullet diameter to prevent breech loading, no?

Looks like a "lip" between the muzzle end of the Firestick and the base of the projectile. 

Edited January 26, 2020 by hughd

[KahrMan]

Well this sucks but I am not surprised about the ruling. 
 

[mike243]

It's a proper ruling from TWRA , 1 day we will just have a season and a limit, I may be so old that I will have to use my pickup instead of a rifle