Trusts

[Flyboy]

Has anyone used Nationalguntrust.com??

They have a sale for 59.00, to good to be true?

[tnhawk]

While it will cost a few more dollars, I would prefer to have any legal document (will or trust) prepared by a professional.  

I used John Wells to prepare my trust.  

Edited September 15, 2019 by tnhawk

[midsouthgunlawyer]

I don't know the group or the product. It may be a fine document, but I can assure you having an attorney you can call is worth paying a little more than going with the best price available.

[Flyboy]

Thinking more for speed and convince.

What a reasonable price and time frame in the Nashville area for a trust?

[QuackerSmacker]

What is your rationale for why you think you need a trust?

[Flyboy]

To be able to pass it along to family and have the wife and children listed for handling after Im gone.

[QuackerSmacker]

If you just did nothing, wouldn't that just happen naturally anyway?  Is this an especially valuable gun or collection?  And why would you want to name anyone "listed for handling?"   Just askin', trying to learn something here.

Edited September 19, 2019 by QuackerSmacker

[Ronald_55]

I think the confusion here is the distinction between a will/estate/trust fund and a Trust used for NFA items. Sounds like @Flyboy is refering to the latter. In that case not having one means if the items owner passes, the item(s)  must be surrendered. At least that is my understanding. 

[QuackerSmacker]

Ok, that might explain what this is all about.  Let's see....thanks for that observation.

[Flyboy]

Correct, wanting to do a SBR and a Can, I want to be able to allow it to pass to the family. I understand that without a trust, if my wife was to handle it to even turn it in to LEO she would be breaking the law. A trust would as I understand it, allow for my wife and family to still it keep it legally.

[Flyboy]

So no Info on time or price to have this done In surrounding area of Nashville??

Edited September 22, 2019 by Flyboy

[Esko 270]

I used John Welles as well, I believe it was around $250. Far as time just set up a meeting and it's done. I've never heard anything bad about the Nationalguntrust or the silencer shop trust but went with John because he came highly recommended. 

[Flyboy]

Thanks

[DaveTN]

I wonder if anyone, anywhere, ever, that has a written trust, has been told their trust wasn’t legally correct and their weapons seized?

[jpx2rk]

1 hour ago, DaveTN said:

I wonder if anyone, anywhere, ever, that has a written trust, has been told their trust wasn’t legally correct and their weapons seized?

https://www.guntrustguru.com/faqs

Scroll down and you'll see where a woman in TX had a self prepared revocable trust declared invalid (aka not worth the paper used).  Does not mention any weapons being seized.

Also states that the ATF has not questioned the validity of any gun trusts, but don't know how recent the info in this link is.  The ATF cannot just "declare" a trust invalid, only a court of law could make that determination.

The author also seems to create some confusion with his wording of "revocable living trust" and a NFA gun trust interchangeably.  In my mind, the two should not be used in this manner.  A revocable living trust is a legal document just like the NFA gun trust is, but the two have totally different objectives IMO.  The two have similar powers, terminology and objectives, and could be created/controlled under one document but only a well versed estate planning attorney familiar with ATF regs should be consulted if this is desired.  A "canned" or boilerplate trust document from an online source  would create some interesting legal issues IMO.  

I would use separate lawyers for each purpose but make sure both lawyers are aware of my intentions, so things would be laid out as I desired.