So is anyone pre-panic buying yet?

[Wingshooter]

1 hour ago, RED333 said:

Take your age, divide by .005, times pie( 3.14159 ), add 1000, minus 1, times your age to the 10th power = enough.

If you think that is not enough change .005 to .00005 and you age to the 15th power.

Thanks! I knew there had to be a formula.

[hipower]

1 hour ago, RED333 said:

Take your age, divide by .005, times pie( 3.14159 ), add 1000, minus 1, times your age to the 10th power = enough.

If you think that is not enough change .005 to .00005 and you age to the 15th power.

Is the figure arrived at by this method a total round count, case count, or total weight of inventory?

I come up with 45,828,201.5 as a total. Seems a bit lite to me for total rounds. A good number for case quantity though.

Not sure about the weight though. If that's pounds or in metric tonnes, I don't think my garage floor could handle it.

[asu174]

This formula doesn’t seem to go down with age.  

[asu174]

By the way, all of the "no open carry" is more likely because of this moron's actions...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html

Add CVS, Walgreens, and Wegman's to the "no open carry" list.  Open carry= cigarettes.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/business/walgreens-open-carry/index.html

[Raoul]

29 minutes ago, asu174 said:

By the way, all of the "no open carry" is more likely because of this moron's actions...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html

Add CVS, Walgreens, and Wegman's to the "no open carry" list.  Open carry= cigarettes.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/05/business/walgreens-open-carry/index.html

What an idiot.

[Moped]

23 hours ago, Magiccarpetrides said:

Like I've said before if you wanna prepare for the end...most of us(me especially) would find more benefit in a good cardio program then 1,000 extra bullets.

Amen!!!

22 hours ago, hipower said:

Amen Brother! I really need it! Waist and weight have gotten out of control the last 2 years.

Sadly, so has mine.

[Raoul]

I recommend the flu. I had a rip roaring version last flu season and dropped 25 pounds. 

[E4 No More]

18 minutes ago, Raoul said:

I recommend the flu. I had a rip roaring version last flu season and dropped 25 pounds. 

[2ndsight]

I sold all mine off

[gregintenn]

After reading broox's thread about the PSA coupon codes, I did order a nice, big box of Pmags.

[Guest BCR#1]

On 8/13/2019 at 5:28 PM, Cruel Hand Luke said:

At some point enough people will simply get tired of this constant "we are gonna ban your stuff and take it away from you talk" and civil disobedience will be widespread. If enough people simply say "NO" then what exactly do you think will happen? Of course them actually calling their congressmen and saying they do not support any of that stuff the socialist communists are pushing before it goes anywhere would be a great start and probably head off any REAL unpleasantness but for some reason people tend to not act until after things get out of hand.  "Is it ignorance or apathy?" " Well I don't know and I don't care".....

The problem with trying to enforce unpopular laws on 300 MILLION people (or even on 3 MILLION people) that refuse to comply is you do not have the manpower to implement it IF enough people organize and refuse to play along. If the full weight of the US govt and a coalition of foreign nations took years to put down an insurrection (and still did not succeed completely) in a country smaller than the size of Texas (Iraq) where the insurgents were only a tiny sliver of the actual population then how exactly are these would be socialist/communists politicians who we all fear being in charge going to put down the insurgency that will happen when enough people say NO to their plans for the US? Especially if they do not have the 100% support of the whole military and police forces who do not support that stuff? A LARGE portion of them lean more to the right than the left...and not ALL left leaning folks are for totalitarianism. The Sheriff here has already publicly said he has no interest in enforcing any new federal gun laws.

The largest irregular guerrilla army in history is already armed......the largest corp of snipers in history practices every year during hunting season and during organized shooting matches. The will of the governed to continue to be governed is the only thing allowing a gun ban to even be a possibility. And unfortunately.....barring some unforeseen return to sanity by the left at some point that will of the silent majority to continue to accept this government as legitimate is going to wane.......we already see it to some degree on the "other side" .You see the problems caused by the statistically insignificant number of Antifa kooks out there.   What happens when the silent majority actually gets out in the street and starts making noise?  

History is pretty interesting....unfortunately few people still read it. 

 

I agree with Randy 100%. We either put our foot down and resist or crawl under a rock and hide.

Bill

[Magiccarpetrides]

10 hours ago, BCR#1 said:

I agree with Randy 100%. We either put our foot down and resist or crawl under a rock and hide.

Bill

You ever seen videos of what an Apache Helicopter can do to a group of "insurgents"...no thanks!  The only way we collectively are "putting our foot down" is by getting off our asses and voting...any talk of civil disobedience should at the very least not be spouted on public forum.

[E4 No More]

34 minutes ago, Magiccarpetrides said:

You ever seen videos of what an Apache Helicopter can do to a group of "insurgents"...no thanks!  The only way we collectively are "putting our foot down" is by getting off our asses and voting...any talk of civil disobedience should at the very least not be spouted on public forum.

The difference, however, is the person firing on the enemy or firing on your own people.

[mikegideon]

2 hours ago, E4 No More said:

The difference, however, is the person firing on the enemy or firing on your own people.

Yep. And the insurgency just multiplied by a factor of thousands.

[Wingshooter]

2 hours ago, E4 No More said:

The difference, however, is the person firing on the enemy or firing on your own people.

Yep. I’ve known a few Apache pilots. All I’ve known were very conservative, and I feel confident none would ever fire on another American. Bad guys in Somalia yes, Americans in USA no. You’d be hard pressed to find any fighter/bomber pilot willing to do this. I imagine It’d be the same with tanks, etc.

Edited September 10, 2019 by Wingshooter

[asu174]

Law enforcement hasn’t seemed to care about scooping people up and ruining the lives of innocent people for red flag nonsense, real or not.  They control the narrative and can label anyone a “domestic terrorist”.

I’m not worried about Apaches or an insurgency.  I’m worried about what’s already happening to people who post the wrong meme, say the wrong thing online, or just own too many of whatever they want to take.

[DaveTN]

6 hours ago, asu174 said:

Law enforcement hasn’t seemed to care about scooping people up and ruining the lives of innocent people for red flag nonsense, real or not.  

That’s not true, that’s ridiculous. Cops don’t randomly pick people to enforce weapons confiscations on; most cops are good people and would not do that. Most red flag laws are the result of family members that can’t handle their own family problems. Cops can’t hold court on the street; they are charged with removing the threat as best they can; that’s what they do. The lawyers, the courts, and the family can then battle it out.

Someone has to call the Police and make a complaint, if you have a problem with it your problem is with that person; not the Police. Police are not family problem solvers; they are law enforcement Officers. But they will always go look at the situation and do the best they can.

Sometimes when family members call cops because someone is threatening suicide or homicide; things go wrong and people get killed. Sometimes it’s the person making the threats, sometimes it’s the cops, sometimes it’s the family members, and sometimes its innocent citizens going about their daily routine.

6 hours ago, asu174 said:

They control the narrative and can label anyone a “domestic terrorist”.

I’m not worried about Apaches or an insurgency.  I’m worried about what’s already happening to people who post the wrong meme, say the wrong thing online, or just own too many of whatever they want to take.

Threats of violence is not protected speech. Online threats have not been taken seriously in the past. I suspect you are about to see that change. Calls from witnesses that see these threats online will be looked at. If someone needs to go interview that person, or arrest them for their threats; I assume that will happen. If it makes it though the responding Officers, the Detectives, the DA, and a preliminary hearing; their Peers will decide if they were threats or not.

I agree that the "domestic terrorist" stuff is ridiculous. It’s like “hate crime” laws; they aren’t necessary and are more politics than anything. The guy in Missouri had intent to cause panic; he committed a crime. But he was an idiot and his crime was disorderly conduct. He was charged with terrorism to make an example. Will he be convicted of that? Of course not he will be offered a plea to plead guilty to a misdemeanor like disorderly conduct and it will be over. That’s what happens to idiots.

We have laws against murder, threatening people with violence, pulling guns on people, etc. We can arrest violent people without violating anyone’s rights and without needing any new laws. What we need is either new prisons or clear out the non-violent offenders in the ones we have if we must make room. People that threaten to kill other people don't need to be walking free.

[Magiccarpetrides]

Considering half the people can't be bothered to get off their ass to vote I think most of the keyboard warriors wouldn't make the leap to "armed insurrection" I was hoping all that nonsense chatter died when Trump got elected but I see the bravado is still alive and well.  

[DaveTN]

7 minutes ago, Magiccarpetrides said:

Considering half the people can't be bothered to get off their ass to vote I think most of the keyboard warriors wouldn't make the leap to "armed insurrection" I was hoping all that nonsense chatter died when Trump got elected but I see the bravado is still alive and well.  

 You will have half of them that can’t start a war because they have to work that weekend, and the other half can’t go because their wife said they had to mow the grass.

[asu174]

10 hours ago, DaveTN said:

That’s not true, that’s ridiculous. Cops don’t randomly pick people to enforce weapons confiscations on; most cops are good people and would not do that. Most red flag laws are the result of family members that can’t handle their own family problems. Cops can’t hold court on the street; they are charged with removing the threat as best they can; that’s what they do. The lawyers, the courts, and the family can then battle it out.

Someone has to call the Police and make a complaint, if you have a problem with it your problem is with that person; not the Police. Police are not family problem solvers; they are law enforcement Officers. But they will always go look at the situation and do the best they can.

Sometimes when family members call cops because someone is threatening suicide or homicide; things go wrong and people get killed. Sometimes it’s the person making the threats, sometimes it’s the cops, sometimes it’s the family members, and sometimes its innocent citizens going about their daily routine.

Threats of violence is not protected speech. Online threats have not been taken seriously in the past. I suspect you are about to see that change. Calls from witnesses that see these threats online will be looked at. If someone needs to go interview that person, or arrest them for their threats; I assume that will happen. If it makes it though the responding Officers, the Detectives, the DA, and a preliminary hearing; their Peers will decide if they were threats or not.

I agree that the "domestic terrorist" stuff is ridiculous. It’s like “hate crime” laws; they aren’t necessary and are more politics than anything. The guy in Missouri had intent to cause panic; he committed a crime. But he was an idiot and his crime was disorderly conduct. He was charged with terrorism to make an example. Will he be convicted of that? Of course not he will be offered a plea to plead guilty to a misdemeanor like disorderly conduct and it will be over. That’s what happens to idiots.

We have laws against murder, threatening people with violence, pulling guns on people, etc. We can arrest violent people without violating anyone’s rights and without needing any new laws. What we need is either new prisons or clear out the non-violent offenders in the ones we have if we must make room. People that threaten to kill other people don't need to be walking free.

People are getting arrested for online posts that are NOT threats.  But they will have their day in court... only after going to jail, being marked as a terrorist, losing their jobs and reputation after cops get to blab to the media that they stopped a massacre, and give a judge enough to worry about to slap an insane bond on that person.  Life over.

Brandon Wagshol of CT posted an innocuous meme.  Tell me what “threat” he made.  Only after they busted down his door over a meme and confiscated everything, did they find he ordered some 30 round mags in a state he shouldn’t have them.  He’s still locked up.  Please provide me what specific threat he made. 

He’s being held on $250K bond for possession of four 30 round magazines.  Still haven’t seen the threat or anything close.  People with “Molon Labe” in their sigs have made worse threats than this kid. 

https://reclaimthenet.org/man-guns-confiscated-arrested-sharing-meme-red-flag-laws/

Spare me the BS that police are “just doing their jobs”.  Heard it a thousand times. They insert themselves into situations they were not called to.   

The boot licking on this forum is ridiculous and it’s tragic how many traitors walk among us pretending to be patriots.  Fudds, nothing more. 

Edited September 11, 2019 by asu174
“Worthless” actually was over the top.

[asu174]

4 hours ago, DaveTN said:

 You will have half of them that can’t start a war because they have to work that weekend, and the other half can’t go because their wife said they had to mow the grass.

Speak for yourself, Edward Jones. 

[gregintenn]

14 minutes ago, asu174 said:

People are getting arrested for online posts that are NOT threats.  But they will have their day in court... only after going to jail, being marked as a terrorist, losing their jobs and reputation after cops get to blab to the media that they stopped a massacre, and give a judge enough to worry about to slap an insane bond on that person.  Life over.

Brandon Wagshol of CT posted an innocuous meme.  Tell me what “threat” he made.  Only after they busted down his door over a meme and confiscated everything, did they find he ordered some 30 round mags in a state he shouldn’t have them.  He’s still locked up.  Please provide me what specific threat he made. 

He’s being held on $250K bond for possession of four 30 round magazines.  Still haven’t seen the threat or anything close.  People with “Molon Labe” in their sigs have made worse threats than this kid. 

https://reclaimthenet.org/man-guns-confiscated-arrested-sharing-meme-red-flag-laws/

Spare me the BS that police are “just doing their jobs”.  Heard it a thousand times. They insert themselves into situations they were not called to.   

The boot licking on this forum is ridiculous and it’s tragic how many traitors walk among us pretending to be patriots.  Worthless Fudds, nothing more. 

Just a friendly reminder: Personal attacks are frowned upon on this forum. If I enjoyed participating here, I'd edit the last two posts you made in this thread were I you.

[asu174]

2 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

Just a friendly reminder: Personal attacks are frowned upon on this forum. If I enjoyed participating here, I'd edit the last two posts you made in this thread were I you.

I fail to see a single personal attack.  I made generalizations about trends I’ve seen here and followed up with responses to indirect attacks.  I stand by everything I said.  I offer no apologies for being a 2A advocate and constructively calling BS where I see it.

[gregintenn]

6 minutes ago, asu174 said:

I fail to see a single personal attack.  I made generalizations about trends I’ve seen here and followed up with responses to indirect attacks.  I stand by everything I said.  I offer no apologies for being a 2A advocate and constructively calling BS where I see it.

Then knock yourself out there captain!

[mikegideon]

23 minutes ago, gregintenn said:

Just a friendly reminder: Personal attacks are frowned upon on this forum. If I enjoyed participating here, I'd edit the last two posts you made in this thread were I you.

You're starting to show the makings of a good moderator. Hell, I'll vote for ya