So is anyone pre-panic buying yet?

[asu174]

I’ve been through more than one of these discos and see which way the wind is blowing.  I admittedly went way overboard after the last one settled, which forced a mass sell off of ammo, mags, and rifles before moving here, as movers don’t touch ammo/guns and I couldn’t get a big enough trailer.

Anyhow, I have a weird feeling this is “the big one”.  I’ve put some projects on hold to start funding things that I would want in the future in case there is an AWB.  I’m not buying stuff to resell like many do, but don’t want to have any regrets on what I wish I would have purchased when I had the opportunity.  

I currently have a bid on the rifle that got away from me a few years ago and if it doesn’t work out, I have a backup to get a different one for a bit more.  I’ve been buying a good number of mags on a regular basis and bought a bunch more yesterday.  And while ammo doesn’t seem to be currently at risk, I did scoop up a ton of it at a local sale knowing ammo spikes after these bans and takes forever to come back down to these levels.  

Drums are obviously going to be under attack, but I’m not buying any because I genuinely don’t like them.  I used a Magpul D60 on one stage at one match that warranted it, but it’s been collecting dust since.

I don’t get the sense anyone else has started truly “panic buying” yet, given that I just got a whole page of good ARs for $600-$800 from CDNN.  Classifieds seem pretty quiet, too.  That said, I remember empty gun shelf walls after Sandy Hook/Obama and don’t want to be the guy running across town to get a box of 22LR.

Anyone else preparing for a potential storm?  Or waiting it out?

[Grunt67]

I'm more interested in what the Senate does. Nothing that I really need, gun or ammo wise.

 

[Magiccarpetrides]

I hope theres another panic i'd love to unload some stuff ….  ah the good ol days when fools were paying $2,000 for homemade AR's

[Defender]

Its only a matter of time i reckon.  The ARs I have are ones I want to keep.  Wish Id held on to the ones I sold but I am not going to invest now in something to sell later.  I do want to 'thin the herd' a bit, though, on other guns, both long guns and pistols, but like i said no ARs. Ill probably hold off for a little bit as i dont want to lose money. Seems like used guns are  at bargain basement prices right now.  Not looking to profit, but dont want to go backwards either.  

[DaveTN]

We have five and a half years of Trump left. 

                                       

And I don’t worry even a little bit that he is going to take anything I own or want, or do anything with ammo or magazines. I see a very good chance Congress could ban drum type mags and may give Tennessee incentive to require background checks on private sales.

Prices on used stuff is still high; but going down. I have several guns I am keeping an eye out for, when I see the right prices. But so far most of what I have been buying is new. New prices are really dropping.

[Magiccarpetrides]

51 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

We have five and a half years of Trump left. 

                                       

And I don’t worry even a little bit that he is going to take anything I own or want, or do anything with ammo or magazines. I see a very good chance Congress could ban drum type mags and may give Tennessee incentive to require background checks on private sales.

Prices on used stuff is still high; but going down. I have several guns I am keeping an eye out for, when I see the right prices. But so far most of what I have been buying is new. New prices are really dropping.

To me all guns are relatively cheap these days....and Trump not doing anything...hahaha like he back door'd the bumpstock ban...I wouldn't trust him with anything when it comes to guns....also if republicans don't turn out to vote don't be so sure about a re-election...i'll vote for the guy but TN is always a lock anyways.

[DaveTN]

12 minutes ago, Magiccarpetrides said:

if republicans don't turn out to vote don't be so sure about a re-election...i'll vote for the guy but TN is always a lock anyways.

Oh, I’m absolutely not taking a win for granted. I’ve never seen hate like this in my lifetime in an election. The Republicans better get out and vote. And who cares if he will take your state; get out and vote anyway. That way we don’t have to listen to the snowflakes whine and cry about the popular vote.

I suspect the Democrats will be dragging people out of their homes to the polls, they will have buses lined up, and will kick in every kind of voter fraud know to man, to try to win.

Other than the last election; I don’t think there has ever been a more important time in my life to vote. A large percent of our country wants to be Socialist, destroy Capitalism, and spread the money of those who work equally among everyone; including those that refuse to work. No variation of that can work and leave our country free.

[TGO David]

If I were going to buy things right now it would be pistol braces from manufacturers with determination letters issued specifically to them by the BATFE and steering away from others.  Call it an educated hunch.

[Ronald_55]

36 minutes ago, TGO David said:

If I were going to buy things right now it would be pistol braces from manufacturers with determination letters issued specifically to them by the BATFE and steering away from others.  Call it an educated hunch.

Any insight into who has those?

[felinesNfreedom]

4 hours ago, asu174 said:

I’ve been through more than one of these discos and see which way the wind is blowing.  I admittedly went way overboard after the last one settled, which forced a mass sell off of ammo, mags, and rifles before moving here, as movers don’t touch ammo/guns and I couldn’t get a big enough trailer.

Anyhow, I have a weird feeling this is “the big one”.  I’ve put some projects on hold to start funding things that I would want in the future in case there is an AWB.  I’m not buying stuff to resell like many do, but don’t want to have any regrets on what I wish I would have purchased when I had the opportunity.  

I currently have a bid on the rifle that got away from me a few years ago and if it doesn’t work out, I have a backup to get a different one for a bit more.  I’ve been buying a good number of mags on a regular basis and bought a bunch more yesterday.  And while ammo doesn’t seem to be currently at risk, I did scoop up a ton of it at a local sale knowing ammo spikes after these bans and takes forever to come back down to these levels.  

Drums are obviously going to be under attack, but I’m not buying any because I genuinely don’t like them.  I used a Magpul D60 on one stage at one match that warranted it, but it’s been collecting dust since.

I don’t get the sense anyone else has started truly “panic buying” yet, given that I just got a whole page of good ARs for $600-$800 from CDNN.  Classifieds seem pretty quiet, too.  That said, I remember empty gun shelf walls after Sandy Hook/Obama and don’t want to be the guy running across town to get a box of 22LR.

Anyone else preparing for a potential storm?  Or waiting it out?

10 Bulgarian AK mags two weeks ago

10 Steel AR mags this week

picking up another 10 AK mags this Friday from a guy.

I also have another brace coming to me tomorrow from Primary Arms. I've ordered a few lowers over the last couple months too.

Currently working on getting some new body armor, mines old.

Edited August 13, 2019 by felinesNfreedom

[felinesNfreedom]

3 hours ago, DaveTN said:

We have five and a half years of Trump left. 

                                       

 

I think this comment is made in jest.

 

Hell, with Trump in office we may not have to worry about dems pushing to ban anything.... most things may already be gone by the time they are in office again.

[Raoul]

All I've purchased lately is a credible amount of pvc pipe and end caps.

 

[Defender]

2 minutes ago, Raoul said:

All I've purchased lately is a credible amount of pvc pipe and end caps.

 

Now that could prove to be a smart move!

[asu174]

1 hour ago, TGO David said:

If I were going to buy things right now it would be pistol braces from manufacturers with determination letters issued specifically to them by the BATFE and steering away from others.  Call it an educated hunch.

My suspicion is that those would be “Akins Accelerator’ed” and be outright banned.  

I don’t have a dog in the pistol brace fight and just sold the only AR pistol I own, so I will stick to mags and stuff I truly want.  Almost everything on my shopping list is checked at this point.

In unrelated SBR news, I had an eForm 1 come back approved with a stamp on less than a month and think it would have been quicker if I had gotten fingerprints done sooner than day 14.  

[DaveTN]

19 minutes ago, felinesNfreedom said:

I think this comment is made in jest.

Hell, with Trump in office we may not have to worry about dems pushing to ban anything.... most things may already be gone by the time they are in office again.

I’m not a convicted felon, I’m not mentally ill, I can pass a background check, and I don’t have any family members that are going to call the cops on me; so I think I’m good to go. I don’t think the Donald is going to want to take anything away from me. AND… my Edward Jones account looks pretty impressive. (Of course I know that will change, and there are those waiting in the wings and hoping it will change; which is really sad for them.) So all is good. 15 months is a long time though.

[JimFromTN]

23 minutes ago, Raoul said:

All I've purchased lately is a credible amount of pvc pipe and end caps.

 

I heard pex was the future

[Ronald_55]

27 minutes ago, Raoul said:

All I've purchased lately is a credible amount of pvc pipe and end caps.

 

I am looking to get rid of a roll of old cannon fuse.....sounds like you might need it.

 

(Just kidding....I don't give that type of stuff away lol)

[felinesNfreedom]

2 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

I’m not a convicted felon, I’m not mentally ill, I can pass a background check, and I don’t have any family members that are going to call the cops on me; so I think I’m good to go. I don’t think the Donald is going to want to take anything away from me

I'm none of those things and have nothing to worry about either but I still think everything they are pushing for is ridiculous. To me this thinking falls under the Bumpstocks are stupid, who needs one category. By that I mean it's just the tip of the iceberg and who knows how big it truly gets. I don't know how you feel about things but I do believe that pretty much all gun laws are an infringement and red flag laws are going to be a terrible idea. Hell, look at what Potus tweeted out earlier about Cuomo being nuts and given a red flag..... You post something on a message board that gets picked up by someone you pissed off and they report you. It's a sticky situation

[Defender]

1 hour ago, felinesNfreedom said:

I'm none of those things and have nothing to worry about either but I still think everything they are pushing for is ridiculous. To me this thinking falls under the Bumpstocks are stupid, who needs one category. By that I mean it's just the tip of the iceberg and who knows how big it truly gets. I don't know how you feel about things but I do believe that pretty much all gun laws are an infringement and red flag laws are going to be a terrible idea. Hell, look at what Potus tweeted out earlier about Cuomo being nuts and given a red flag..... You post something on a message board that gets picked up by someone you pissed off and they report you. It's a sticky situation

My experience with gun grabbers is that they entice you with compromise on what they cal 'reasonable', then you compromise, and they keep pushing and taking.  They dont want us to have guns period.  Everything is a step towards that for them.  I dont care one bit about bumpstocks, but that was a step...

[Cruel Hand Luke]

At some point enough people will simply get tired of this constant "we are gonna ban your stuff and take it away from you talk" and civil disobedience will be widespread. If enough people simply say "NO" then what exactly do you think will happen? Of course them actually calling their congressmen and saying they do not support any of that stuff the socialist communists are pushing before it goes anywhere would be a great start and probably head off any REAL unpleasantness but for some reason people tend to not act until after things get out of hand.  "Is it ignorance or apathy?" " Well I don't know and I don't care".....

The problem with trying to enforce unpopular laws on 300 MILLION people (or even on 3 MILLION people) that refuse to comply is you do not have the manpower to implement it IF enough people organize and refuse to play along. If the full weight of the US govt and a coalition of foreign nations took years to put down an insurrection (and still did not succeed completely) in a country smaller than the size of Texas (Iraq) where the insurgents were only a tiny sliver of the actual population then how exactly are these would be socialist/communists politicians who we all fear being in charge going to put down the insurgency that will happen when enough people say NO to their plans for the US? Especially if they do not have the 100% support of the whole military and police forces who do not support that stuff? A LARGE portion of them lean more to the right than the left...and not ALL left leaning folks are for totalitarianism. The Sheriff here has already publicly said he has no interest in enforcing any new federal gun laws.

The largest irregular guerrilla army in history is already armed......the largest corp of snipers in history practices every year during hunting season and during organized shooting matches. The will of the governed to continue to be governed is the only thing allowing a gun ban to even be a possibility. And unfortunately.....barring some unforeseen return to sanity by the left at some point that will of the silent majority to continue to accept this government as legitimate is going to wane.......we already see it to some degree on the "other side" .You see the problems caused by the statistically insignificant number of Antifa kooks out there.   What happens when the silent majority actually gets out in the street and starts making noise?  

History is pretty interesting....unfortunately few people still read it. 

 

Edited August 13, 2019 by Cruel Hand Luke

[TGO David]

4 hours ago, Ronald_55 said:

Any insight into who has those?

SB Tactical is one.  There may be others?  I only know of them.  Everything I have with a brace is SB Tactical.

They went through the effort to get an ATF determination letter a while back.  Several other manufacturers copied their letter under the assumption that the ATF's opinion applied to them too.  In principle, it may have - for a time, but if times change those manufacturers might find themselves on the wrong side of a new policy shift.

 

[DaveTN]

1 hour ago, Cruel Hand Luke said:

At some point enough people will simply get tired of this constant "we are gonna ban your stuff and take it away from you talk" and civil disobedience will be widespread. If enough people simply say "NO" then what exactly do you think will happen? Of course them actually calling their congressmen and saying they do not support any of that stuff the socialist communists are pushing before it goes anywhere would be a great start and probably head off any REAL unpleasantness but for some reason people tend to not act until after things get out of hand.  "Is it ignorance or apathy?" " Well I don't know and I don't care".....

The problem with trying to enforce unpopular laws on 300 MILLION people (or even on 3 MILLION people) that refuse to comply is you do not have the manpower to implement it IF enough people organize and refuse to play along. If the full weight of the US govt and a coalition of foreign nations took years to put down an insurrection (and still did not succeed completely) in a country smaller than the size of Texas (Iraq) where the insurgents were only a tiny sliver of the actual population then how exactly are these would be socialist/communists politicians who we all fear being in charge going to put down the insurgency that will happen when enough people say NO to their plans for the US? Especially if they do not have the 100% support of the whole military and police forces who do not support that stuff? A LARGE portion of them lean more to the right than the left...and not ALL left leaning folks are for totalitarianism. The Sheriff here has already publicly said he has no interest in enforcing any new federal gun laws.

The largest irregular guerrilla army in history is already armed......the largest corp of snipers in history practices every year during hunting season and during organized shooting matches. The will of the governed to continue to be governed is the only thing allowing a gun ban to even be a possibility. And unfortunately.....barring some unforeseen return to sanity by the left at some point that will of the silent majority to continue to accept this government as legitimate is going to wane.......we already see it to some degree on the "other side" .You see the problems caused by the statistically insignificant number of Antifa kooks out there.   What happens when the silent majority actually gets out in the street and starts making noise?  

History is pretty interesting....unfortunately few people still read it. 

 

Civil disobedience on Federal Weapons charges? Call me a sissy, but you will have to count me out. 

Reminds me of this….

Quote

 

In one incredible performance, Cosby roused an audience with a riotous routine, then calmed them down again, playing the audience like a cellist plays the strings:

“I got it all figured out how we can win here. What we do—there’s about fourteen hundred of us here—they think we’re in here watching the show.”

The last part of that line made the audience start chuckling in anticipation.

“They wouldn’t be ready for us.”

The laughter is more anticipatory now, and Cosby’s voice starts to build.

“All we’d have to do, man, is just get up and march on that casino. I mean, march on it—taking chips as we go!”

He’s like a preacher, now, building rapidly to a climax.

“I mean, taking them. Not fooling around, walking right up in groups of 20 to 30, just taking chips. Ain’t but 12 security guards out there. We could do it. Are you ready?”

The crowd roars, “Yes!”

Cosby calls out, “Now, some of us are going to die.”

The crowd gives a huge laugh, and the escalating oration is brought back down.

“Oh, you’re backing off, now, huh?

“I’m in charge, and I’ll be behind you. That way, when we turn around to run, I’ll be in front.

 

 

[asu174]

9 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

Civil disobedience on Federal Weapons charges? Call me a sissy, but you will have to count me out.

 

So I assume you will be first in line at a mandatory gun buyback?

[DaveTN]

5 minutes ago, asu174 said:

So I assume you will be first in line at a mandatory gun buyback?

It isn’t going to happen. Are you saying you would go to prison over your gun rights?

No, I wouldn’t and neither would most people. I got stuff to do; I ain’t got time to be hanging out in prison cell.

[asu174]

3 hours ago, felinesNfreedom said:

I'm none of those things and have nothing to worry about either but I still think everything they are pushing for is ridiculous. To me this thinking falls under the Bumpstocks are stupid, who needs one category. By that I mean it's just the tip of the iceberg and who knows how big it truly gets. I don't know how you feel about things but I do believe that pretty much all gun laws are an infringement and red flag laws are going to be a terrible idea. Hell, look at what Potus tweeted out earlier about Cuomo being nuts and given a red flag..... You post something on a message board that gets picked up by someone you pissed off and they report you. It's a sticky situation

There's a lot of "since it doesn't affect me, I don't care" going around.  Our worst enemies are among us- large cohorts of the gun community telling the NRA and politicians that things like Red Flag laws, part bans, and AWB are okay, because it doesn't affect them. 

I personally would never own a bump stock and had one pistol brace I really didn't care for.  I'm also not worried about red flag laws (until someone turns on me).  That doesn't mean I would ever be passive about laws that infringe the rights and freedom of others.