Is this a big F**k you to the people

[Guest jackdog]

January 13, 2008

U.S. Supreme Court Denies Certiorari

for Landmark Right to Petition Case

Constitutional Crisis Escalating

Coming: Appropriate Next Steps

On January 4, 2008, the Judges of the Supreme Court of the United States, in conference, voted to deny the Petition for Writ of Certiorari in the landmark Right-to-Petition case We The People v. United States. On January 7 the Court issued its Order denying certiorari.

Without comment, the Supreme Court decided not to hear We The People v. United States, a case which, if heard, would have required the Court to declare -- for the first time history -- whether the Government is obligated to respond to proper Petitions by ordinary, private individuals for Redress of Grievances – specifically Grievances alleging unconstitutional behavior by the Government, and whether the individual having so Petitioned, has the Right to act to peacefully hold the Government accountable if the Government refuses to respond.

In denying to hear this first impression case, the Court has ignored its duty to interpret the meaning of the Constitution, and leaves undisturbed the decision of the DC Court of Appeals which, unfortunately, relied on two cases that were not on point -- they involved employment related grievances by state public employees and state legislation governing same, not Grievances by private parties, and not involving alleged violations of the Constitution.

The decision by the Supreme Court has grave consequences for the future of individual Rights, Freedom and Liberty, popular sovereignty, government accountability and the great experiment in (self) government that is America. Any Right that is not enforceable is not a Right.

Our attention is now focused on defining the appropriate next steps for a Free People to take under the current circumstances.

However, there is one remaining judicial option open to us that we are now exercising (let it never be said that we did not exhaust every opportunity for judicial relief).

Under the Rules of the Supreme Court, we have 25 days to return to the Supreme Court with a petition for rehearing of the Court’s January 7, 2008 Order denying certiorari.

On January 11, 2008, Bob Schulz and the We The People organization filed an Emergency Motion in the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in United States v We The People (the “6700†case against WTP for distributing the Blue Folder with its information regarding the withholding of pay from paychecks).

The emergency motion requests a Certificate of Agreement from the Second Circuit, which would have the Second Circuit declare that it agrees that the Supreme Court should reconsider its decision and grant certiorari in We The People v United States (Right to Petition case), because the fundamental questions presented by the People in We The People v United States are similar to those raised in United States v We The People (6700 case), and because the denial of Certiorari by the Supreme Court leaves the Second Circuit without any relevant case law to guide it in deciding its case.

A decision by the Second Circuit on the emergency motion will be issued sometime between Monday, January 14 and Friday, January 18. Click Here to read the Emergency Motion.

Unless the Court agrees to grant our emergency motion for a Certificate of Agreement and temporarily suspend the proceedings, oral argument in United States v We The People will be heard by the three-judge panel at the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan on February 4, 2008.

Appropriate Next Steps

Make no mistake.

By its apparent abdication of its duty under the Constitution and refusal to hear our landmark Right to Petition lawsuit, the U.S. Supreme Court has ushered into existence a dangerous state of affairs that can not, and must not, be tolerated by Free People.

By its denial of Certiorari in this most important case, the Court has sent a silent, but unambiguous decree to the People that cannot be left unchallenged: that the People have lost their Fundamental Right to peacefully hold the Government of their creation accountable to the Constitution and the rule of law.

Please begin to spread word of this Constitutional travesty across the land.

Our Constitution is, indeed, hanging by a thread. We pray the Supreme Court will reconsider this grievous decision that denies to the People a declaration of the full contours of the meaning of the last ten words of the First Amendment.

During the coming days, this Foundation will announce what it believes are the appropriate next steps for the People to restore Constitutional Order and secure Freedom for ourselves, and our posterity.

Acta Non Verba

Seems to me that the government in general and the supreme court in paticular has told We the people that we are S**t out of luck and to please wipe our Collectrive asses with the constitution.

[TGO David]

Very interesting. What was that quote about throwing off the chains of tyranny, again?

[Guest nraforlife]

And the slaves sing

Chorus (in bold):

Swing low, sweet chariot

Coming for to carry me home

Swing low, sweet chariot

Coming for to carry me home

I looked over Jordan and what did I see

Coming for to carry me home

A band of angels coming after me

Coming for to carry me home

(chorus)

Sometimes I'm up and sometimes I'm down

Coming for to carry me home

But still my soul feels heavenly bound

Coming for to carry me home

(chorus)

The brightest day that I can say

Coming for to carry me home

When Jesus washed my sins away,

Coming for to carry me home.

(chorus)

If I get there before you do

Coming for to carry me home

I'll cut a hole and pull you through

Coming for to carry me home

(chorus)

If you get there before I do

Coming for to carry me home

Tell all my friends I'm coming too

Coming for to carry me home

(chorus)

and then they eat their cud and walk off into the pasture!!

[enfield]

Who is this We The People group? Do they have a website?

Edit - found the website. Who are the bigwigs in the group and where are they based?

Edited February 7, 2009 by enfield

[towerclimber37]

this may be old, but I believe that I should look into this organization!

Like many of you guys, I'm pretty tired of being run roughshod over. Federal officers look at us like "little people" and feel that they can do as they wish...case in point, the batf.

We have politicians that lie openly in order to get into office and don't have any platform or morals to stand on, but will say whatever gets them into office.

Politicians are no longer held to account for their actions or their words. with this bit of court fluffery, I see that we as citizens are not able to call into account those who run roughshod over us...I'm willing to bet that if we built a gallows and invited the justices to examine it, there would be a massive change of heart.

Is it just me? I'm I a nutjob for wanting those folks in charge of making decisions for me to be GOOD people? to be people that actually DON'T lie, sleep around or spend MY money like it's water?

do I need my ??

[Guest nraforlife]

this may be old, but I believe that I should look into this organization!

Like many of you guys, I'm pretty tired of being run roughshod over. Federal officers look at us like "little people" and feel that they can do as they wish...case in point, the batf.

We have politicians that lie openly in order to get into office and don't have any platform or morals to stand on, but will say whatever gets them into office.

Politicians are no longer held to account for their actions or their words. with this bit of court fluffery, I see that we as citizens are not able to call into account those who run roughshod over us...I'm willing to bet that if we built a gallows and invited the justices to examine it, there would be a massive change of heart.

Is it just me? I'm I a nutjob for wanting those folks in charge of making decisions for me to be GOOD people? to be people that actually DON'T lie, sleep around or spend MY money like it's water?

do I need my ??

and the sheeple bleet, eat their cud and wander off. Nothing is going to change and it will simply get worse unless drastic measures are taken or God gets DC an enema.

We the people, as a whole, are simply getting what we deserve based upon the lack of concern shown over the past few decades, probably going back to the day after the revolutionary war ended.

PC this and PC that, bleeding heart liberal BS that nobody was willing to stand up against.

Trillion dollar stimulus bill that is so full of s_hit that it should be printed out on Charmin. Country is frickin screwed but 50.1% is all it takes to rob from the other 49.9%

[Guest jackdog]

Who is this We The People group? Do they have a website?

Edit - found the website. Who are the bigwigs in the group and where are they based?

http://www.givemeliberty.org/

Why do they have to be big wigs are we not all supposed to be equal under the law.

[Guest jackdog]

this may be old, but I believe that I should look into this organization!

Like many of you guys, I'm pretty tired of being run roughshod over. Federal officers look at us like "little people" and feel that they can do as they wish...case in point, the batf.

We have politicians that lie openly in order to get into office and don't have any platform or morals to stand on, but will say whatever gets them into office.

Politicians are no longer held to account for their actions or their words. with this bit of court fluffery, I see that we as citizens are not able to call into account those who run roughshod over us...I'm willing to bet that if we built a gallows and invited the justices to examine it, there would be a massive change of heart.

Is it just me? I'm I a nutjob for wanting those folks in charge of making decisions for me to be GOOD people? to be people that actually DON'T lie, sleep around or spend MY money like it's water?

do I need my ??

Please by all means look get involved, it is your freedom at stake here.

[enfield]

http://www.givemeliberty.org/

Why do they have to be big wigs are we not all supposed to be equal under the law.

I'm interested in who the 'principals' are behind the organization -- to see if I recognize any names.

[Guest weemsf]

It is a lead pipe cinch that the established political parties are not going to give us any relief from the ever growing reach of "big brother." I voted Republican this time around, but had to hold my nose to do so. Not sure I can do it again.

The elitists have taken over the GOP once again. Frist was a joke, Alexander has promoted himself as a "progressive," and Corker seems to be another wealthy businessman with his own interests at heart.

[Guest jackdog]

I have said it here before I will say it once again. Party loyalty is a game run by both parties, and Big world corporations that run them. Elections in this country do little or nothing. Yearly the rule of law has been over ran by both political parties. This administration will be no different in my opinion, Maybe a heck of a lot worse. The only hope true Americans have ( those that believe whole heartily In The constitution and the bill of rights) is to have a very limited federal government. That folks will not happen via the election process. If we had a hope at all it would have been with Ron Paul, but hell that is just my opinion.