AR10 + M1A = MK36

[Capbyrd]

I'm starting to think that we have taken the "AR all the things" mantra just a little too far.   That being said, this is interesting and I want to shoot one.  

 

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/22/overmatch-precision-arms-mk36/

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What do you get when you mix together an AR and a M14/M1A rifle? The new MK 36 rifle from Overmatch Precision Arms. They’ve actually been working on this rifle for a while, it was originally called the Osprey MK36 rifle and was being developed by Osprey Armament which is now Overmatch Precision Arms. The rifle is finally finished and will be released very soon.

The Overmatch MK36 rifle uses an M14/M1A rotating action and gas piston system with an AR-15 style lower receiver. The lower is compatible with AR safety selectors, triggers, pistol grips and stocks. However it uses standard 10 or 20 round box fed M1A magazines. It includes an aluminum hand guard with a Milspec Picatinny rail up top and M-Lok mounting locations along the side. It weights in at a reasonable 8.5 pounds. Even being that svelte Overmatch claims the MK36’s felt recoil is significantly lower than your standard M14/M1A.

 

That receiver looks familiar.

The Overmatch MK36 is actually very easy to disassemble with no tools needed. It breaks down into just a few parts pretty quickly.

The Overmatch MK36 is going to be available in multiple finishes and hand guard lengths. The one above has a folding AR style stock, and because there’s no buffer you can fire it with the stock folded. Not sure why you would, but you could.

The Overmatch MK36 includes a threaded barrel and muzzle brake but you can add a suppressor to it as well.

The MK36 rifle is chambered in .308 Win / 7.62 NATO but there are plans to produce it in .243, 6.5 Creedmoor and .338 Federal. It will be available with a 1:10 16″ match grade barrel or 1:12 18″ or 20″ match grade barrel.

The MK36 from Overmatch Precision Arms should be available very soon but pricing is to be determined. I’ll update this post if I get pricing info from Overmatch. For more info check them out at opa36.com.

 

[Whisper]

It does look interesting.  Hope it's not $3,000....

[Capbyrd]

14 minutes ago, Whisper said:

It does look interesting.  Hope it's not $3,000....

That's kind of the MSRP I was expecting.   The formula in the title basically.  

[Ronald_55]

And after paying that much, you have a gun that loses a lot of the compatibility perks of the AR and also some of the ruggedness of the M1A. Like someone said once, at least with the M1A, it makes a passable club, but the AR, not so much. 

[Capbyrd]

9 minutes ago, Ronald_55 said:

And after paying that much, you have a gun that loses a lot of the compatibility perks of the AR and also some of the ruggedness of the M1A. Like someone said once, at least with the M1A, it makes a passable club, but the AR, not so much. 

I equate this as being a new chassis option.  I know its much more complicated than that but I see it as another chassis on the market.   And I'm curious how that compares to the existing chassis.

[Grayfox54]

You could just put a pistol grip stock on a M1A and have a better rifle a whole lot cheaper. 

[Capbyrd]

8 minutes ago, Grayfox54 said:

You could just put a pistol grip stock on a M1A and have a better rifle a whole lot cheaper. 

But how do you know? Some things I would jump to conclusions on as well.  But this one, I'll reserve judgement.   

I hate the M1 safety.   Its the only thing I hate but I hate it.   This is a big improvement for me.   Ergonomics that just about everyone is already familiar with.  

[Magiccarpetrides]

Bahaha reminds me of the FNAR or my version the SXAR....but hey ya know sometimes these collaborations do actually create a useful gun...my SXAR is lights out up to 600yds

[MacGyver]

There's some compelling stuff here.

I'd love to see how it shoots.

[mikegideon]

On 1/23/2019 at 10:51 AM, Capbyrd said:

I equate this as being a new chassis option.  I know its much more complicated than that but I see it as another chassis on the market.   And I'm curious how that compares to the existing chassis.

That's my take too. It's more M1A than it is AR. 

[btq96r]

I'm sure it would be fun to shoot, if not prohibitively expensive...but it just seems a more AR'd version of when the military gave units some kitted out M14s for longer reach and punch within a platoon. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_14_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle

 

Still, some (semi) fresh thinking in the current times is a good thing.  We need more outside the box thinking if a company can afford to take a risk in design.

[Garufa]

A hammer looking for a nail.

[mikegideon]

6 minutes ago, Garufa said:

A hammer looking for a nail.

Correct!

[mikegideon]

24 minutes ago, btq96r said:

I'm sure it would be fun to shoot, if not prohibitively expensive...but it just seems a more AR'd version of when the military gave units some kitted out M14s for longer reach and punch within a platoon. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mk_14_Enhanced_Battle_Rifle

 

Still, some (semi) fresh thinking in the current times is a good thing.  We need more outside the box thinking if a company can afford to take a risk in design.

Yep. That's an M14 in a hotrod chassis. Nothing wrong with a good old Garand. I think the AR10 is probably inherently more accurate with a free float barrel. That could matter when you start reaching out.

[xtriggerman]

 That's a fascinating piece. Back in 1977 when Springfield A came out with the M1A, I bought one brand new for $379.00 My SN was 006022. If any one here has it, I would consider maybe buying it back.  I sold it in about 84 for the new Springfield SAR48.  My biggest peeve with the rifle was the accuracy degraded badly after you got most of the way threw a mag. Cold.... clover leaf, no prob, hot, shotgun groups of 4" @ 100.  So I looked into National Matching the bedding system and decided it just wasn't worth it. Every disassembly degraded the very finicky bedding over time and would have to be redone. After I bought the FAL, I never looked back since those M1A problems were non existent with the FAL.  The AR's may be fine for a lot of folks accuracy n all but I tend to go to extreme in the HD-ness of a battle rifle design and a hot cal like the 7.62x51 in a impingement gas system is just stupid. Put 4 or 5 full 20 rd mags threw the action as fast as you can go and heat in the aluminum action is never a good thing.  The FAL is the king of the hill in that group with the HK bringing up the rear. not much in between as far as run em to the melting point.  The MK36 gas system is a proven design in harsh conditions and it would not suffer the wood stock accuracy problem of the M1A. It scopes well over the M1A and drop mags is a plus. Not a bad try at a modern M1A but with DSA Voyager FAL's running a thousand bucks with life time warranty, you have to really have a woody for that action design to walk past the 90 country mil spec FAL. 

[Capbyrd]

I don’t think heating up the aluminum is an issue.  I’ve watched videos of people running to the point that the gas tube melted and the aluminum receivers were fine.  But I get your point.   

[Chucktshoes]

8 hours ago, xtriggerman said:

 That's a fascinating piece. Back in 1977 when Springfield A came out with the M1A, I bought one brand new for $379.00 My SN was 006022. If any one here has it, I would consider maybe buying it back.  I sold it in about 84 for the new Springfield SAR48.  My biggest peeve with the rifle was the accuracy degraded badly after you got most of the way threw a mag. Cold.... clover leaf, no prob, hot, shotgun groups of 4" @ 100.  So I looked into National Matching the bedding system and decided it just wasn't worth it. Every disassembly degraded the very finicky bedding over time and would have to be redone. After I bought the FAL, I never looked back since those M1A problems were non existent with the FAL.  The AR's may be fine for a lot of folks accuracy n all but I tend to go to extreme in the HD-ness of a battle rifle design and a hot cal like the 7.62x51 in a impingement gas system is just stupid. Put 4 or 5 full 20 rd mags threw the action as fast as you can go and heat in the aluminum action is never a good thing.  The FAL is the king of the hill in that group with the HK bringing up the rear. not much in between as far as run em to the melting point.  The MK36 gas system is a proven design in harsh conditions and it would not suffer the wood stock accuracy problem of the M1A. It scopes well over the M1A and drop mags is a plus. Not a bad try at a modern M1A but with DSA Voyager FAL's running a thousand bucks with life time warranty, you have to really have a woody for that action design to walk past the 90 country mil spec FAL. 

The FAL was always the superior design. We never should have fielded the M-14. 

[peejman]

1 hour ago, Chucktshoes said:

The FAL was always the superior design. We never should have fielded the M-14. 

I would love to see a 21st century FAL. It could lose some weight and gain some capacity with modern materials. 

[Chucktshoes]

3 minutes ago, peejman said:

I would love to see a 21st century FAL. It could lose some weight and gain some capacity with modern materials. 

It exists. It’s called the SCAR 17. 

[xtriggerman]

$$$$ ouch

https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting/modern-sporting-rifles/fn-scar-17s-semi-automatic-rifle/p/p47801

[Chucktshoes]

I didn’t say they were cheap. 

Of course I’ve got over $3500 in my FAL.   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

The only reason FALs were so cheap for so long was the plethora of surplus parts kits that were floating around after such wide adoption around the world.

Edited January 26, 2019 by Chucktshoes

[XRGR37511B1P]

Whats up everyone?  First post here. I’m excited to see an updated rifle that takes the best of both AR and M14 worlds and blends them together. Any rifle that can be broken down with no special tools is definitely a plus especially when it breaks down into just a few pieces, and I love any rifle that is already compatible with the wealth of aftermarket AR accessories already in existence . I want to see some professionals run the 3 rifles against one another in some kind of functionality demonstration / competition.