Range Fire

[MacGyver]

I've got a lot of questions about this video, but let's just agree that shooting incendiary rounds indoors is probably a bad idea:

I'll admit I'm curious as to why a police department would be shooting these gimmicky rounds. And, who let the chick in flip flops into the range?

[Chucktshoes]

What’s that saying that used to be real popular around these parts? Oh yeah, I remember!

 

 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[GlockSpock]

That is both incredible and terrifying at the same time. Does that seem abnormally fast for how quickly everything caught fire? It seems one second there is nothing, the next second literally everything is up in flames. Was there some sort of accelerant that caught fire, etc?

What is typically in these rounds? Magnesium?

[Ronald_55]

Crap. I am guessing the video ends because the camera died. 

I agree it seems super fast. Most of these places are mainly concrete. Not a ton to burn...on purpose. 

[GlockSpock]

For those that don't know, you can pause a YouTube video and then his the < and > keys on your keyboard to step forward or backward frame by frame. Try it.

I'm curious what the black line of stuff on the floor is seen from the beginning of the video. It seems a split second before everything goes up in flames, that line caught fire, etc.

[DaveTN]

A quick search showed that this took place in Brazil. The range floor was coated with engine oil to keep termites from eating it, and unburned powder.

[GlockSpock]

Just now, DaveTN said:

A quick search showed that this took place in Brazil. The range floor was coated with engine oil to keep termites from eating it, and unburned powder.

If true, that would mostly explain...everything.

[Chucktshoes]

7 minutes ago, GlockSpock said:

If true, that would mostly explain...everything.

Accurate. 

[Erik88]

Look at the air quality in that dump. Nothing like breathing pure lead. The more I read about Brazil the more I'm convinced I'll never visit. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by Erik88

[Photoguy67]

18 minutes ago, GlockSpock said:

That is both incredible and terrifying at the same time. Does that seem abnormally fast for how quickly everything caught fire? It seems one second there is nothing, the next second literally everything is up in flames. Was there some sort of accelerant that caught fire, etc?

What is typically in these rounds? Magnesium?

Yes, their primary load is magnesium. Which burns at around 3800 degrees if memory serves.

 

[RED333]

13 minutes ago, Photoguy67 said:

Yes, their primary load is magnesium. Which burns at around 3800 degrees if memory serves.

 

and can not be put out very easy, water makes it worse, you can put it out with a lot of sand.

[peejman]

Indoor ranges are coated in powder residue. Watch any of the slo-mo videos of bullets exiting a muzzle and you'll see lots of unburned powder come out. 

I saw a guy with a .50 Desert Eagle set the wall next to him on fire. That was a minor and very slow burning fire, kind of mesmerizing to watch actually.  It certainly didn't become the conflagration that happened here. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by peejman
Stupid autocorrect

[Photoguy67]

53 minutes ago, RED333 said:

and can not be put out very easy, water makes it worse, you can put it out with a lot of sand.

As I was taught, the biggest problem with magnesium is that it burns at 3800 degrees f, and water seperates into its basic molecules at 1800 degrees f, so by putting water on it, you are in fact feeding it hydrogen and oxygen. Actually burns hotter!

[Ronald_55]

8 minutes ago, RED333 said:

and can not be put out very easy, water makes it worse, you can put it out with a lot of sand.

I had a firefighter tell me once that they had to be trained on knowing what cars had magnesium engine blocks so that they did not spray a car fire with water.

[Capbyrd]

2 hours ago, MacGyver said:

I'll admit I'm curious as to why a police department would be shooting these gimmicky rounds. And, who let the chick in flip flops into the range?

 

Train like you fight! 

[peejman]

1 hour ago, Ronald_55 said:

I had a firefighter tell me once that they had to be trained on knowing what cars had magnesium engine blocks so that they did not spray a car fire with water.

Engine blocks and wheels. It's pretty rare for whole blocks to be mag, but pretty common for there to be covers, brackets, and such.  

 

Fun story.... many years ago the Porsche club people would bring fragged magnesium engine blocks with them to the Daytona 24hr race. They'd dig a hole in the infield, start a bonfire, and toss a block on when it got dark. It would be daylight within 100yds of there all night long. 

Anyone who's been to Daytona knows the airport is right next to the track. Pilots complained about the blinding light coming from the track so the FAA made the track stop them from burning magnesium in their bonfire. 

[gjohnsoniv]

2 hours ago, Capbyrd said:

 

Train like you fight! 

Considering the pure number of videos coming from Brazil where people always seem to be wearing flip flops and shooting each other, you're spot on. 

[No_0ne]

This video is a perfect candidate for submission for a Darwin Award ...

[DWARREN123]

Unburnt powder from shooting has caused a few range fires. Burns hot and fast.

Putting oil down as insect control, if true, is a stupid thing to do for a range.

[Steelharp]

30 minutes ago, DWARREN123 said:

Putting oil down as insect control, if true, is a stupid thing to do for a range.

Well, it IS Brazil. Home of Taurus... 

[monkeylizard]

Wasn't the build up of unburned powder over the years in the wall padding a contributing factor in the Guns & Leather range fire a few years ago?

[Quavodus]

Leave it to the police to do something stupid.

[Raoul]

Barnett's gunship and indoor range had a similar occurrence a few years back. Hampton, TN

[Wingshooter]

Ready.. aim... FIRE!

[1fast4by]

Holy crap