Would You Prefer Your Hockey Puck in .357 or .45 ?

[volshayes]

University police training faculty to fight potential armed intruders — complete with hockey pucks

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/11/28/university-police-training-faculty-to-fight-potential-armed-intruders-complete-with-hockey-pucks

[KahrMan]

A good slap shot can do some damage...

[volshayes]

54 minutes ago, KahrMan said:

A good slap shot can do some damage...

Yeah, but they are not issuing sticks with them.  Must be like Barney only getting one bullet when things get really bad.

Edited November 28, 2018 by volshayes

[volshayes]

Northwestern's answer to the hockey puck.  11 minutes, but a good video.

https://www.nratv.com/videos/relentless-chuck-holton-northwestern-university-teaches-students-to-fight-shooters-with-hole-punchers?utm_source=nratv&utm_campaign=daily_20181128&utm_medium=email&utm_content=body

 

[Tuffus]

5 hours ago, volshayes said:

Northwestern's answer to the hockey puck.  11 minutes, but a good video.

https://www.nratv.com/videos/relentless-chuck-holton-northwestern-university-teaches-students-to-fight-shooters-with-hole-punchers?utm_source=nratv&utm_campaign=daily_20181128&utm_medium=email&utm_content=body

 

What's sad about this video is that is was done to be serious. If I saw it on Facebook or somewhere I would think it's satire.

 

[Grayfox54]

I forget where it was, but not long ago there was a school system that wanted to arm each room with a bucket of rocks. 

[volshayes]

3 hours ago, Tuffus said:

What's sad about this video is that is was done to be serious. If I saw it on Facebook or somewhere I would think it's satire.

 

Nope, it's for real.  Listen in the video below and around the 3:35 mark, they discuss the hole puncher.  It must be a 12 gauge hole puncher, since they talk about it being such a dangerous weapon.

http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/372958151-video

[DaveTN]

I saw that on TV yesterday. It just goes to show how little these people understand what it’s like to face an active shooter. they are making a joke out of it.

 

[volshayes]

9 hours ago, DaveTN said:

I saw that on TV yesterday. It just goes to show how little these people understand what it’s like to face an active shooter. they are making a joke out of it.

 

You got that right.  They've never experienced being on the receiving end of the barrel, and probably never on the giving end, either.

[jgradyc]

When I first heard about the hockey puck defense, I thought it was a hoax. After reading about it, I wondered if they were going to advocate an active opposition, why not use something inexpensive and easier to deliver to target.

My first thought was a slingshot with steel or lead balls. Then, I realized why a school board would NEVER vote to use slingshots... you could actually hurt someone with a slingshot!

[jgradyc]

I just did some research. A 1/2" steel ball weighs 129gr and can be shot at 240fps. That's 17ft-lbs of force. Not much compared to a 22LR at 40gr at 900fps for 72ft-lbs of force, but the slingshot would be a pretty serious deterrent.  Imagine stepping into a classroom and getting hit with 15-20 steel hex nuts moving at 240fps. One headshot would probably incapacitate the shooter.  As a kid, I could shoot a slingshot 3-4 times in a few seconds. 

Schools could keep the slingshots in a lockbox to only be used in a shooter event. Kids could attend a training session once a semester. 

I'll admit this isn't a great idea, but it is lightyears better than hockey pucks. Heck, half the kids today can't even throw a baseball.