P99 or SW99

[Guest fastshotivy]

I like some info. on these pistols...

40 S&W.

Thanks

[Ropin4gold]

Might try walther forum if you don't get alot of answers here.

[Guest m4coyote]

I have owned both, and would suggest the Walther P99 all the way. The S&W 99 .40 had some very screwed up rifling in the barrel. It almost appeared that the rifling was machined twice! I sent it into S&W because it was VERY inaccurate, and they replaced the barrel. The new barrel was machined correctly, but the bore was just "rough". I never understood why a S&W revolver had the prettiest mirror finish inside the barrel, but their autos have a rather rough finish. My one year old S&W M&P 9c also displays this same "rough finish". S&W replaced the barrel on when I sent it back for "issues", and the new barrel is definitely not "mirror" polished inside. At least my M&P now is accurate and functions correctly.

Compare the difference between the bore finish between the S&W 99 (Smith manufactured barrel) and the Walther P99 (all Walther). The P99 definitely has a mirror finished bore. I am not knocking S&W, but I do not understand why their auto pistol barrels do not receive the same machining care given to their revolvers.

[poak]

If you decide to go w/ the SW99, I think CDNN had some smoking deals on the .40cal SW99 a few weeks ago, might still...

[Guest eyebedam]

I've had both also. I'd say of the 2 go for the p99. Honestly though I'd consider a M&P instead.

[Guest fastshotivy]

If you decide to go w/ the SW99, I think CDNN had some smoking deals on the .40cal SW99 a few weeks ago, might still...

What is a SW99 is it not the same as a P99?

[Guest m4coyote]

The S&W99 and Walther P99 are very similar, but the Smith's barrel & slide are manufactured by S&W in MA, and all parts of the Walther P99 are made in Germany by Walther.

[Guest colrmccoll]

I have gone to the website looking for the deals as mentioned here but apparently you have to be a dealer to enter the site with the guns.

This website only has parts and accessories: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/

While this is the one:

http://cdnn.powerfulhosting.com/objects/4643.itml/icOid/4643

has all the guns but requires a login.

Do they have another that I can browse the deals?

[Guest bkelm18]

I have gone to the website looking for the deals as mentioned here but apparently you have to be a dealer to enter the site with the guns.

This website only has parts and accessories: http://www.cdnninvestments.com/

While this is the one:

http://cdnn.powerfulhosting.com/objects/4643.itml/icOid/4643

has all the guns but requires a login.

Do they have another that I can browse the deals?

You have to call them for their guns.

[Guest m4coyote]

This may have changed, but last month I downloaded their catalog, and the monthly guns specials were included.

Edit: This still holds true - right click the catalog download link and save it to your desktop. The gun catalog is a 30.2 mb download, and takes a little while to complete. You have to call them for handgun prices, but you can at least see what is available.

Edited February 1, 2009 by m4coyote

[Guest trippm]

+1 on looking into an M&P

[Smith]

The SW99's frame is made in Germany by Walther and the barrel and slide are made here as said before. There are some cosmetic differences between the two and I much prefer the P99. However, they are running around $700+ if you can find them. At that price point, as much as i like the P99 (my favorite HG of all time) I went with the M&P. The P99/SW99 are also very light. In .40 they will have a sharp recoil that the M&P will handle better.

[S&WForty]

The P99/SW99 are also very light. In .40 they will have a sharp recoil that the M&P will handle better.

I have a S&W99QA (DAO) in .40S&W. I've shot a friend's M&P .40, and the M&P definitely handles that round easier. I still love my S&W. Unlike most, I prefer to the look of the S&W99 to the P99. Some will point out the S&W has a lifetime warranty while the Walther doesn't.

And... the S&W99 seems to be the redheaded stepchild of the S&W Polymers. The "lesser" Sigmas and the more recent M&P have a lot more brands catering to them with accessories. Then compare the availability to Glock accessories, and you'll bang your head against the wall!

Another thing about the 99 series is are the various actions. My QA is the designation for a shorter Glock-like DAO action (the later gen, 990s with "L" are the same as QA). Many love them, but I've read where those with the 99s with the AS trigger say they are the best guns they shot. The 99 AS is a DA/SA action.

Also, many say the 99 frame was really designed around the 9mm, and those examples are some of the best shooting 9mms you can put your hands on. It somewhat explains why they are not the best at taming the snappiness of a .40 S&W round.

There is a guy on The Firing Line site named "Fastbolt." He is a retired amorer for a LE agency. He has made many posts on that forum about the P99/SW99s.

Here is one thread he's posted in:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=334811&highlight=P99

Another thread with several posts by him:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161560&highlight=P99

And one more, also with several posts. Very interesting reading:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119266&highlight=P99