Jacksonville Shooting

[DaveTN]

Dang man, killing yourself and others because you lost a game??? That guy had to have serious mental issues. Family, friends and co-workers couldn’t tell he needed help?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/27/fbi-swarms-family-home-jacksonville-landing-gunman-david-katz.html

 

[xsubsailor]

 So much for background checks 

The gunman who opened fire on a "Madden NFL 19" tournament in Jacksonville, Florida, on Sunday was hospitalized previously for mental illness, according to court records.

Divorce filings from the parents of 24-year-old David Katz of Baltimore showed that as a teenager he was hospitalized twice in psychiatric facilities and was prescribed anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medications, The Associated Press first reported Monday.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/27/jacksonville-gaming-tournament-shooter-had-been-hospitalized-for-mental-illness-documents-show.html

[Chucktshoes]

16 minutes ago, xsubsailor said:

 So much for background checks 

The gunman who opened fire on a "Madden NFL 19" tournament in Jacksonville, Florida, on Sunday was hospitalized previously for mental illness, according to court records.

Divorce filings from the parents of 24-year-old David Katz of Baltimore showed that as a teenager he was hospitalized twice in psychiatric facilities and was prescribed anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medications, The Associated Press first reported Monday.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/27/jacksonville-gaming-tournament-shooter-had-been-hospitalized-for-mental-illness-documents-show.html

The background check will only pop as prohibited if he was committed by a judge. Non-adjudicated hospitalization doesn’t count. 

[DaveTN]

According to the media he bought the guns legally.

[bersaguy]

12 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

The background check will only pop as prohibited if he was committed by a judge. Non-adjudicated hospitalization doesn’t count. 

I guess that makes sense but I kind of thought mental Illiness is mental Illiness whether a judge says it or a doctor says it. If thats the case and a doctor declares you a raving lunatic and says you need to be in a mental hospital you can still legally buy a gun but if a judge says it then you can't. That just does not sound like they are doing a very good job with the mental issues of gun ownership huh?............JMHO

[DaveTN]

28 minutes ago, bersaguy said:

I guess that makes sense but I kind of thought mental Illiness is mental Illiness whether a judge says it or a doctor says it. If thats the case and a doctor declares you a raving lunatic and says you need to be in a mental hospital you can still legally buy a gun but if a judge says it then you can't. 

That is correct. Unless it’s a court order it isn’t in a searchable database that would show up in a background check. Those wanting the background checks to show that don’t seem to understand all their problems will be there also. When they figure that out; they won’t want that.

[Chucktshoes]

It’s also a double edged sword. We want to minimize the risks of someone who is mentally ill in a violent way, but we don’t want to stigmatize mental illness in such a way that we  punish folks for seeking help because it will act as a deterrent to folks seeking help they need. 

[bersaguy]

3 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

That is correct. Unless it’s a court order it isn’t in a searchable database that would show up in a background check. Those wanting the background checks to show that don’t seem to understand all their problems will be there also. When they figure that out; they won’t want that.

Yea, when they begin to allow the background checks to begin dipping beyond where the courts allow them to go it will be a whole different story and then they will not want that part of back ground checks allowed. They can't have it both ways they either get all the background in mental health or none.....JMHO

[bersaguy]

1 minute ago, Chucktshoes said:

It’s also a double edged sword. We want to minimize the risks of someone who is mentally ill in a violent way, but we don’t want to stigmatize mental illness in such a way that we  punish folks for seeking help because it will act as a deterrent to folks seeking help they need. 

Very true Chuck. This is not an issue subject that can done without a lot of forethought and input from Medical Professionals. It cannot just be a political issue but a medical issue also..........JMHO

[DaveTN]

Looks like the sharks are circling already.

Watch Matt Morgan try to justify what he is doing. And telling us what we want.

I hope the businesses have the resources to fight this dirt bag.

 

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Morgan & Morgan to file first lawsuit related to Jacksonville Landing shooting

https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/morgan-morgan-to-file-first-lawsuit-related-to-jacksonville-landing-shooting/822333814

 

Edited August 28, 2018 by DaveTN