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Note: SHOT show was just this past weekend... sort of a manufacturers expo. AHSA was not there.

Ralphs' problem goes far beyond believing AHSA (who are funded by the Joyce foundation). Google them, lots of information available on them.

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Great roundup here http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2008/09/22/i-would-have-gotten-away-with-it-if-it-wasnt-for-you-meddling-kids/

Short version - false flag front organization funded by the Democratic Leadership Council to provide cover for anti-gun democrat politicians.

The board of directors is a who's-who of gun-control lobbyists.

AHSA paid people to protest NRA meetings.

They wrote an opposition opinion for Heller.

Donated to the Brady bunch.

Set up a straw purchase with a reporter

Ray Schoenke was a paid witness for the complaintants in the suits against firearms manufacturers.

Please forward the link to Ralph, and ask him if he'd be interested in some excellent waterfront real-estate opportunities.

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I figured as much... "Ralph" sent me the link. I think I understand his problem now.

For a guy that portrays himself to be a very intelligent person it seems he swallowed this pile of horse pucky hook line and sinker. Guess he should have did a little back ground checking on his own.:)

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When it comes to political discourse and campaign rhetoric on Second Amendment Rights, there are two events that have shaped the current landscape more than any others: the 1994 mid term elections and the 2000 Presidential election. In 1994, gun owners turned out in record numbers to send a message to the Clinton Administration that the gun bans and the anti-gun laws they had pursued were unacceptable. And in 2000, Vice President Al Gore lost because his position on guns was unacceptable to voters in states that had been reliable for his party for decades.

The result was a watershed change in American politics, and a change in the way many anti-gun politicians campaign. Rather than talk openly about their desire to ban guns, register gun owners and regulate firearms sales, anti-gun politicians talk about their “support†for sportsmen. Rather than admit they oppose the individual right protected by the Second Amendment, they claim they “support firearms ownership for hunting.â€

This is all an effort to mislead and divide the gun owning community and to dilute gun owners’ political impact. Anti-gun activists want to ensure that 1994 and 2000 never happen again. To achieve their goals they have created new organizations with names designed to confuse gun owners and hide the real agenda. The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) is one of those groups.

AHSA was created with the specific intent to provide political cover for anti-gun politicians by allowing them to claim support from a “sportsmen’s†group. In truth, the anti-gun credentials of AHSA’s leadership is well documented. For instance, AHSA president Ray Schoenke has a long history of giving political donations to some of the most anti-gun politicians, including Al Gore, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Bill Clinton, Dianne Feinstein and Ted Kennedy. In 2000, Schoenke donated $5,000 to Handgun Control, Inc. (now the Brady Campaign) and the Ray and Holly Schoenke Foundation also made donations to the Brady Campaign. AHSA Board member John Rosenthal remains the leader of Stop Handgun Violence, the Massachusetts anti-gun group. And one of the leading organizers of AHSA is Bob Ricker, who has been a paid expert witness against gun manufacturers in a number of reckless lawsuits. For more information, see http://www.nraila.org//Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=232

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