Gun Grab

[Punisher84]

Sorry Punisher, I don't read many graphic novels.

what I do mostly is work and pay bills.

MY only vice is firearms. I love to shoot. I also love to be left alone by folks.

when I get home, I like my privacy to enjoy time with my family unmolested.

When I was younger, I loved to fight...I was in the perfect place for it too. In the Mechanized Infantry and in the Cavalry there's no better place to train in small unit tactics except perhaps special forces type units.

I did so with both friends and enemies...serious set to's and some friendly ones where we just broke a few bones...nothing that couldn't be fixed.

now days I'm a LOT slower..and I guess I've become more treacherous as well..

you've got the right of it though...I would say no...

I hear ya brother. I managed a bookstore between high school and the Army and had alot of time to read and I picked up Watchmen, Sin City, and V for Vendetta. For grown up comics there is alot of things that make you think if you read a little more than just the bubbles if you catch my drift.

I thought of that quote because I can see the people begging for help once they realize what they've put into motion. I, as well, will simply whisper "No."

[towerclimber37]

I think one of the simplest things to comprehend have been forgotten. Even by knowledgeable Christians...

God will forgive you for anything, if you ask him to..but you're still responsible for the consequences.

[Guest jackdog]

Not looking forward to going to war with the feds. But I damn sure will not just give up my means of self defense. On the other hand going to war with these A holes may be the only way to restore the constitution as to what the founders meant. I hope and pray that I am not a minority in feeling this way

[Guest gunslinger707]

Tower with age come's treachery !!! Ask NuTcAsE and his younger Brother what i told them when they thought they had got old enough to rule the house !!lol

[Guest Schwarzgebrannt]

Well, thank goodness that none of that is possible thanks to George W. Bush using every valuable and irreplaceable moment of his administration to repeal the gun control acts of '86, '68, and the 1934 NFA, followed by his historic elimination of the ATF and his strong support of the Second Amendment, culminating in his masterful amicus brief to SCOTUS in the Heller case opposing DC's gun control efforts.

Oh, wait ...

Thanks, George. Thanks a lot.

[Guest SPD223]

For some reason I felt this thread was the right place to make my first post. I'll admit I do alot more reading than posting, but I also believe alot of us feel a time may be drawing near that we will have to make a stand for our freedoms. Some will make a stand and some won't. I hope and pray that day never comes, but if it does, I will NOT be laying down my arms.

[Guest bkelm18]

Well, thank goodness that none of that is possible thanks to George W. Bush using every valuable and irreplaceable moment of his administration to repeal the gun control acts of '86, '68, and the 1934 NFA, followed by his historic elimination of the ATF and his strong support of the Second Amendment, culminating in his masterful amicus brief to SCOTUS in the Heller case opposing DC's gun control efforts.

Oh, wait ...

Thanks, George. Thanks a lot.

Ok, just because the O has taken office doesn't mean you can randomly spout your anti Bush stuff wherever you please...

[Guest Schwarzgebrannt]

Ok, just because the O has taken office doesn't mean you can randomly spout your anti Bush stuff wherever you please...

F*** the "O"

[Guest Liberty Seeker]

"A strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means." Thomas Jefferson

Just sayin'

[towerclimber37]

"A strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means." Thomas Jefferson

Just sayin'

Nice one!

[Guest SUNTZU]

http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/urban_policy/

Go halfway down the page, look under crime and law enforcement heading, read the paragraph in the last bullet. That's how soon.

[Guest bheard]

"Stand your ground; don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have war, let it begin hear." Captain John Parker Lexington minutemen. This is good enough for me.

BH

[dralarms]

"Stand your ground; don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have war, let it begin here." Captain John Parker Lexington minutemen. This is good enough for me.

BH

Fixed it for you.

[midtennchip]

"A strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the end to the means." Thomas Jefferson

Just sayin'

Well, quotes like this are why I'm not a huge Thomas Jefferson fan. If he'd stopped at the first sentence, I would agree. But, what if the "law of necessity" is confiscating guns; what if the "saving our country" is rounding up certain groups of people; what if "self-preservation" means outlawing religious freedom or freedom of speech. Once the government starts exercising such "laws of necessity," it is the individual that loses, not the other way around.

[towerclimber37]

<center>H.R.45

</center><center>Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (Introduced in House)

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well, I guess I know who to shoot 2nd!!!

Edited January 24, 2009 by towerclimber37

[Guest RISC777]

When one looks at the characters the O is filling his cabinet and other key staff positions with how long do you think it will be before the assault on gun owners begins?

What gun(s)? I'm a member here for the conversations and varying viewpoints.

[Guest RISC777]

oops ... doubled somehow ... apologies

[Guest SUNTZU]

What gun(s)? I'm a member here for the conversations and varying viewpoints.

[Mike.357]

risc says

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If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government . . . The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms..."

Aren't the two of these together kind of hypocritical?

I own guns and I am proud of it dammit!