Las Vegas Shooting

[DaveTN]

25 minutes ago, Obiwan said:

It is possible that he was just picked up an hour earlier, lured to that room, shot, and then whoever did the shooting and managed to disappear.

You think someone left that room after the Security Guard was shot through the door?

[xsubsailor]

22 minutes ago, mikegideon said:

Not sure I'm ready to believe that he was just going for better numbers than the last sicko. Now, if he was looking to kill lots of white folks or conservatives, his best bet was that show. We had an event at that venue the weekend before, but it was a much broader audience

 I believe that I read somewhere that he actually tried to get rooms during that event but the rooms in the hotels he requested were not available. 

[mikegideon]

3 minutes ago, xsubsailor said:

 I believe that I read somewhere that he actually tried to get rooms during that event but the rooms in the hotels he requested were not available. 

I would have lost some friends in that one. The show was actually in the arena, but the day event was there.

[Sam1]

30 minute interview with his brother.  It's interesting to see this, because it's not a normal situation that we get to view.  You can tell the guy is just a complete mess at that point in time.

 

[Obiwan]

26 minutes ago, DaveTN said:

You think someone left that room after the Security Guard was shot through the door?

You don't think that's possible? It appears there was 10 minutes between the report of the security guard being shot and LEOs starting to clear floors. An hour between SG being shot and entry into the room. (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/04/las-vegas-shooting-timeline-events.html). Did the SG at the elevator remain in line of fire? Or did he retreat to safety, losing sight of the room? 

Again, we need to wait on facts to rule that out. If the SG was shot from the room and retained visual contact on the room (or rooms, not sure if that was a double with two doors) then we can rule that out.

[Steelharp]

I'm guessing y'all have heard the gun runner theory by now.

[Chucktshoes]

13 minutes ago, Steelharp said:

I'm guessing y'all have heard the gun runner theory by now.

I have. 

[shotgunshooter]

I'm guessing y'all have heard the gun runner theory by now.

Where can I find this?

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[digger]

Ran across these

http://12160.info/page/the-vegas-plot-thickens-the-connection-between-the-shooter-and-an

http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/report-antifa-receiving-military-training-in-syria-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-travelled-to-middle-east/

 

 

[Oh Shoot]

20 minutes ago, digger said:

Ran across these

http://12160.info/page/the-vegas-plot-thickens-the-connection-between-the-shooter-and-an

http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/report-antifa-receiving-military-training-in-syria-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-travelled-to-middle-east/

That the best wacko stuff ya can find?

Here:

"HERE’S WHAT HAPPENED LVMPD

(ID: MaEh0Stq)
4Chan

The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.

Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.

Everything is being kept under extreme wraps because 1) armed ISIS terrorists are still at large and 2) this is very embarrassing to the FBI and they don’t want their scheme to become public knowledge.

I will be posting further information throughout the day, people within LVMP are disgusted and are pushing for this information to be released to the public.

http://archive.is/mnlE0#selection-1285.119-1285.176"

Alex Jones hasn't gone quite that far (yet), but has stories about a second person in the room (with pic of room service receipt to "prove" it), "Incredible Eyewitness Video Documents Multiple Shooters", "Strange Things About the Las Vegas Massacre" and the like.

Maybe it's like Sandy Hook, you know, like it didn't really happen at all?

- OS

 

 

Edited October 5, 2017 by Oh Shoot

[n0rlf]

I think people need to stop applying logic and reason to a man and situation that was neither. 

Just saying. 

Less Tin foil needed that way. After all the simple is most often the answer. In this case he was simply nuts. 

[Sam1]

1 hour ago, Steelharp said:

I'm guessing y'all have heard the gun runner theory by now.

unfortunately.

Also, am I the only one on the verge of stroking out, wanting to argue with these idiots online that are just making absurd analyses on the situation?  Some of their statements just make me want to use the keyboard to beat a hole in the space-time continuum through my monitors... but begrudgingly remain silent. 

[mikegideon]

25 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

That the best wacko stuff ya can find?

Here:

"HERE’S WHAT HAPPENED LVMPD

(ID: MaEh0Stq)
4Chan

The LVMPD knows the motive behind the attack, but the FBI will not allow us to release the motive because it implicates the FBI in illegal arms deals and supplying arms to ISIS terrorists within U.S. borders.

Stephen Paddock was an undercover FBI agent who participated in multiple illegal arms deals in the Las Vegas area in a gun running entrapment scheme similar to Fast and Furious. Paddock thought he was engaging in another routine arms transfer, but ISIS had learned about the entrapment scheme and Paddock’s true identity. They killed him and carried out the massacre, and then fled the scene.

Everything is being kept under extreme wraps because 1) armed ISIS terrorists are still at large and 2) this is very embarrassing to the FBI and they don’t want their scheme to become public knowledge.

I will be posting further information throughout the day, people within LVMP are disgusted and are pushing for this information to be released to the public.

http://archive.is/mnlE0#selection-1285.119-1285.176"

Alex Jones hasn't gone quite that far (yet), but has stories about a second person in the room (with pic of room service receipt to "prove" it), "Incredible Eyewitness Video Documents Multiple Shooters", "Strange Things About the Las Vegas Massacre" and the like.

Maybe it's like Sandy Hook, you know, like it didn't really happen at all?

- OS

 

 

I'm glad somebody finlly got to the truth  

[No_0ne]

1 hour ago, digger said:

Ran across these

http://12160.info/page/the-vegas-plot-thickens-the-connection-between-the-shooter-and-an

http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/report-antifa-receiving-military-training-in-syria-vegas-shooters-girlfriend-travelled-to-middle-east/

 

 

The only thing that first post proves is that the author is clueless on how Flightaware, and aircraft registration works ...

[GlockSpock]

1 minute ago, No_0ne said:

The only thing that first post proves is that the author is clueless on how Flightaware, and aircraft registration works ...

Emphasize (How does Flightaware and aircraft registration work)?

I skimmed the articles. It was sort of funny. One of them claimed that the transcript on one of the UK sites revealed that the "FBI hostage rescue" team killed the shooter. So I click the link, read the transcript, and see nothing of the sort.

[Wingshooter]

The brother's gonna need a lawyer before it's over with. The more he talks, the wackier he sounds.

[Oh Shoot]

5 minutes ago, Wingshooter said:

The brother's gonna need a lawyer before it's over with. The more he talks, the wackier he sounds.

Yeah, first encounter with press, said he knew his brother well, and that "he might have had "one long rifle".  He does seem sort of "edgy" to me.

- OS

[Lumber_Jack]

45 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

Yeah, first encounter with press, said he knew his brother well, and that "he might have had "one long rifle".  He does seem sort of "edgy" to me.

- OS

That video has earned him some nice long government surveillance. Guy is grieving but, wow, he's not stable 

[Dustbuster]

How come no one is mentioning the video that shows muzzle flash coming from the 4th floor


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[Steelharp]

Saw this, and it does make one wonder.

[Oh Shoot]

4 minutes ago, Dustbuster said:

How come no one is mentioning the video that shows muzzle flash coming from the 4th floor

Snopes already does.

http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/

Of course, the obvious problem with the contention is that the windows don't open, and none were broken in whole hotel except in Paddock's suite.

- OS

[Lumber_Jack]

1 minute ago, Oh Shoot said:

Snopes already does.

http://www.snopes.com/second-gunman-shoot-fourth-floor-mandalay-bay/

Of course, the obvious problem with the contention is that the windows don't open, and none were broken in whole hotel except in Paddock's suite.

- OS

Yep, it would be very clear if another elevated shooting had occurred in the hotel. I think its most likely reflection of the actual muzzle flashes due to video angle.  

[Steelharp]

The audio in this sounds to me like the gunfire is from different distances. Can anyone help clarify this for me?

 

[Lumber_Jack]

4 minutes ago, Steelharp said:

The audio in this sounds to me like the gunfire is from different distances. Can anyone help clarify this for me?

 

all of those very tall buildings, its simply just echoing.  listen all of the shots have a very repetitive 2x echo.. orignial very loud followed by 2nd at 3rd and decreased volume

 

Edited October 5, 2017 by Lumber_Jack

[Omega]

Seems to be plenty to point at him being the lone gunman, albeit not released yet.  He had cameras inside, so may be some footage of him actually pulling the trigger.  The suicide photo shows no coagulation, so a recent enough pic.  Casinos have cameras everywhere, so I'm sure there is enough footage of his comings and goings. Leaks will keep coming before they officially release them, so there should be plenty to compare notes with.