4th Gen (RTF) Glock @ Shot 2009

[Guest sling]

Meh, Glock will change their design when they stop selling the current design... and we all know that isn't happening anytime soon. I really like my Glock .40 and hope they don't Eff it up!

There's no way I would stick a "trigger safety only" handgun in my pocket. Sorry, pocket-carry handguns need a safety. Wouldn't want to blow your dingo off...

You mean you have a Glock and you havent yet?

Dude, shooting your goober off or shooting your arse is a right of passage for Glock owners. Didnt you know that?

[Guest 44M]

I see Glock as a LEO or military weapon first..that gun is not perfect to carry,doesn`t look fancy and it is very dangerous (no safeties etc) but it is a perfect choice for the police or military. If I was a police officer I would carry Glock 21 as my duty gun, why..? because it is dependable, it`s big and black and intimidating , so the BG can see it easily and **** in his pants at the same time and it has no nonsence decockers or safeties or I don`t know what, you put the round in the pipe and gun is ready, you shove in the full mag and you`re ready, gun is in your holster ready when you are, you don`t have to think about safeties or decoking it, you pull it and he shoots..perfect handgun for the job...if you are looking for fancy $3000 1911`s, there is planty of those out there....

Db

[poak]

that gun is not perfect to carry,doesn`t look fancy and it is very dangerous (no safeties etc) but it is a perfect choice for the police or military.

Db

Only as dangerous as it's owner.

[R1100R]

Can someone post a link or picture to the Glock RTF? Or did I miss it?

[Guest VolGrad]

For starters, I am not a real fan of the new RTF Glocks. The new slide serrations look terrible IMO and I just don't see the point in changing them.

As far as the other suggestions folks have for a true 4th Gen - interchangeable backstraps, external manual safeties, etc. If that stuff is what you want then buy a pistol with them. They are out there. Why try to make a Glock fit into that mold? It's not like they aren't selling pistols as they are. They kind of sell themselves for a great many folks.

I won't lie though, thinner might be nice. I don't think the current versions need to be "thinned down" but maybe a new version created to fit that bill.

Just my two cents.

[Guest Micromancer]

I see Glock as a LEO or military weapon first..that gun is not perfect to carry,doesn`t look fancy and it is very dangerous (no safeties etc) but it is a perfect choice for the police or military.

I would encourage you to do some research on the number of safeties a Glock has. IIRC, it has three. Three separate devices which prevent discharge when you do not intend on shooting something. It is not a dangerous item. Negligence is by far more hazardous to all parties concerned.

If I was a police officer I would carry Glock 21 as my duty gun, why..? because it is dependable, it`s big and black and intimidating , so the BG can see it easily and **** in his pants at the same time and it has no nonsence decockers or safeties or I don`t know what, you put the round in the pipe and gun is ready, you shove in the full mag and you`re ready, gun is in your holster ready when you are, you don`t have to think about safeties or decoking it, you pull it and he shoots..perfect handgun for the job...

Also, "looking fancy" shouldn't be one of the things you consider for a personal defense weapon. Choosing a weapon for visual characteristics is not going to provide you with a reliable solution.

If you want to make the person you have to draw on crap themselves, let me know how that works for you when their intent is to make you dead. You do not draw unless your need is absolute. Brandishing a weapon to terrorize a "bad guy" does more to invite harm than prevent it.

When protecting your life, you have the same job (albeit with limited scope since it applies only to yourself, vigilantism is a bad idea) as the military/police. You should probably use the same tool they do.

if you are looking for fancy $3000 1911`s, there is planty of those out there....

Db

For $3000, I'd be more apt to buy a Glock 18. That would cover tax stamp, shipping, transfer, gun, ammo for a few weekends, and a bunch of 33 round magazines. Why are you touting a 1911 in a Glock thread?

[Reservoir Dog]

For $3000, I'd be more apt to buy a Glock 18. That would cover tax stamp, shipping, transfer, gun, ammo for a few weekends, and a bunch of 33 round magazines. Why are you touting a 1911 in a Glock thread?

The only problem with that is, a Glock 18 is a post-86 machinegun and cannot be owned by us lowly civilians. Unless you are a NFA dealer (w/ a demo letter) or a government agency, owning a Glock 18 is out of reach. They are damn fun to shoot, though.

[Guest TN_Mike]

so another year, another let down... appears the pics floating around of the 4th gen glock are accurate. although the design has been around since 1985, the only thing they've decided needs changing is the grip surface treatment, and the slide serrations? lame.

what's so bad about evolution in design? imagine how great a G19/17/22/23 would be if they just made the whole thing a 1/4" thinner? or had changeable grips/backstraps? something, anything... has anyone over at glock ever had a chance to handle an M&P, XDM or SR9, or do they just ignore the fact that their design is getting kind of long in the tooth? sheesh.

just an opinion... thoughts?

I could not agree more. And I carry a Glock 23 every day. But, having said that, it is not long for the EDC in my house. As soon as I buy my new XD-M in .40 cal, it will supplant the G23 as my EDC. It just fits my hand so much better, and it has the added benifit of 3 more rounds in the mag.

And I wouldn't mind having an SR9 either. That is a thin little gun.

Glock need to get on the ball and do a redesign of their grip at the least if they want to remain viable in the market. They are in fact losing market share to Springfield, Sig, Ruger and S&W because they are so pig headed towards changing anything of any real substance with their design.

The Glock is a great gun and at one time it was THE gun for reliability. But, the XD, the SR9, the M&P, and many others are now just as reliable, just as tough and rust resistant, and really, theres no reason to carry a gun that doesn't quite fit your hand because it is reliable any more.

[Guest TylerC]

They are in fact losing market share to Springfield, Sig, Ruger and S&W because they are so pig headed towards changing anything of any real substance with their design.

Can you quote a source on that?

[Guest Micromancer]

The only problem with that is, a Glock 18 is a post-86 machinegun and cannot be owned by us lowly civilians. Unless you are a NFA dealer (w/ a demo letter) or a government agency, owning a Glock 18 is out of reach. They are damn fun to shoot, though.

Well, if you are going to bend the rules, might as well go all out and put a stock and vertical foregrip on it.

Serious answer, I know the rules on ownership. I was only mentioning the only Glock model that I knew of that would reach that price point. Besides, if I had $3k to drop on a single weapon, I'd have the scratch to open a Title III business anyway.

[Seaslug]

I could not agree more. And I carry a Glock 23 every day. But, having said that, it is not long for the EDC in my house. As soon as I buy my new XD-M in .40 cal, it will supplant the G23 as my EDC. It just fits my hand so much better, and it has the added benifit of 3 more rounds in the mag.

And I wouldn't mind having an SR9 either. That is a thin little gun.

Glock need to get on the ball and do a redesign of their grip at the least if they want to remain viable in the market. They are in fact losing market share to Springfield, Sig, Ruger and S&W because they are so pig nosed towards changing anything of any real substance with their design.

The Glock is a great gun and at one time it was THE gun for reliability. But, the XD, the SR9, the M&P, and many others are now just as reliable, just as tough and rust resistant, and really, theres no reason to carry a gun that doesn't quite fit your hand because it is reliable any more.

FYP. It is a Glock thread, after all...

[Guest marine77]

I think Glock is an excellent gun. I don't know about generations and all that, I've had mine for 16 years. Probably a first gen. Got it in Ga. when i had come back from Saudi. Excellent gun, fits my hand, goes bang every time i use it. My Glock 17 holds 17+1, and my choice for carrying. IMHO it

seems like most of the other brands mentioned here are knockoffs in some form from the Glock, i look at some and about the only difference i can see is the name.