Why do I need an AK-47?

[Mark A]

Congrats on the new blaster. I hope you have a lot of fun with it...

I have 7.62x39 covered with an sks. I'm not as fast reloading it but I have a TON of stripper clips. If I need a heavy piston fired gun I have my Sig 5.56. You could beat the terminator to death with it and still fire thousands of rounds with no stoppages. 

I was on my third or fourth carbine class before I touched an AR. The instructor got tired of trying to set up malfunction drills on the sig and made me run them with his rifle. I about dropped it because it was so light. That sealed the deal for me.

Wife and I have 300blk pistols set up for home defense and travel guns. Love the sound of heavy subs cycling through a suppressor.

 

I will be curious to read your range report. For $599 it might be a good idea to pick up one for practice drills.

[btq96r]

17 hours ago, MrJones79 said:

Well that quote got all messed up, but someone claimed AKs suck past 200. Uh,no they do just fine. :-)

 

That was me.  And I think these will explain my thoughts on such. 

Range (yards)	Drop (inches)	Velocity	Energy	Time (seconds)
0	-1.4917	2349	1507	0.00
50	0.1804	2175	1292	0.07
100	0.0106	2008	1101	0.14
150	-2.3203	1849	934	0.22
200	-7.1998	1699	788	0.30
250	-15.0980	1559	664	0.39
300	-26.5812	1430	558	0.49
350	-42.3234	1314	471	0.60
400	-63.1059	1214	402	0.72

 

[MrJones79]

That was me.  And I think these will explain my thoughts on such. 

Range (yards)	Drop (inches)	Velocity	Energy	Time (seconds)
0	-1.4917	2349	1507	0.00
50	0.1804	2175	1292	0.07
100	0.0106	2008	1101	0.14
150	-2.3203	1849	934	0.22
200	-7.1998	1699	788	0.30
250	-15.0980	1559	664	0.39
300	-26.5812	1430	558	0.49
350	-42.3234	1314	471	0.60
400	-63.1059	1214	402	0.72

 

Yes, it has about double the bullet drop at 300 yards if you compare it to M193 with a 100 yard zero (which is what the chart above is). But it's still an easy hold over. I was actually shooting 7.62 x 39 at 300 yards with iron sights a couple weeks ago and was able to get consistent hits on a steel ringer. I think the round has a bad rap due to internet rumors that people read and run with. Past 300, yeah I'd much rather use 5.56 if we're talking carbines.


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[TGO David]

Heh... if I am shooting at something, defensively or offensively, at 300yds away,  I have better guns for that.

 

[Dolomite_supafly]

I carry an AK everywhere, it is my self defense gun. I am not so much worried that I will need it when I am out and about. I am worried about coming home to an intruder inside my house. And it is safe to assume that if they are in my house they are at least armed as well as I am.

35 minutes ago, MrJones79 said:

 

Yes, it has about double the bullet drop at 300 yards if you compare it to M193 with a 100 yard zero (which is what the chart above is). But it's still an easy hold over. I was actually shooting 7.62 x 39 at 300 yards with iron sights a couple weeks ago and was able to get consistent hits on a steel ringer. I think the round has a bad rap due to internet rumors that people read and run with. Past 300, yeah I'd much rather use 5.56 if we're talking carbines.


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The reason why people say AKs are inaccurate is because they are generally fed crappy ammunition while people who own ARs generally use better quality ammunition. If you feed an AR Tula or Wolf it will be comparable to an AK using the same ammunition.

I have videos of the Afghans who worked for me using 1980's vintage AKs to hit man sized steel targets at 300+ yards consistently. As in 7 out of 10 consistently. They are plenty accurate for a fighting rifle regardless of what you feed them.

[gjohnsoniv]

I've seen Dolomite's video in question, he's not joking about that.

I think it should be also noted that some AKs have .311 bores and not .308 bores like some of the US produced ammo which doesn't help accuracy issues.

[TGO David]

My first AK arrived on Friday.  I had a chance to take it to the range yesterday and put a few mags of Golden Tiger through it.  It's an exceptionally good rifle!  The front sight post is true, the fit and finish of the rifle seem excellent, and it went "bang" every time I pulled the trigger.

As you all predicted, I doubt this will be my only or last AK.  The more that I read on the history of them and of Mikhail Kalashnikov, the more interested I become.

Here's a little pre-shooting pornography for you...

 

 

[btq96r]

8 hours ago, TGO David said:

As you all predicted, I doubt this will be my only or last AK.  The more that I read on the history of them and of Mikhail Kalashnikov, the more interested I become.

Glad you enjoy shooting it.  Should make your next one a beat up wood stock or underfolder...or get it new and wear it in yourself, that works too.

Just weird seeing an all black AK with Magpul furniture added.  Kind of like an already perfect small town square that didn't need five extra strip malls surrounding it.

[mikegideon]

4 minutes ago, btq96r said:

Glad you enjoy shooting it.  Should make your next one a beat up wood stock or underfolder...or get it new and wear it in yourself, that works too.

Just weird seeing an all black AK with Magpul furniture added.  Kind of like an already perfect small town square that didn't need five extra strip malls surrounding it.

He's gonna dip it in some mud  

[peejman]

I'll just leave this here. And don't forget the PB&J sammiches.

 

[felinesNfreedom]

1 hour ago, peejman said:

I'll just leave this here. And don't forget the PB&J sammiches.

 

Ham sandwich in the AK. 

 

 I miss Dugan. 

[boaz shadmot]

The AK 47 in its Russian version (airborne is preferred) is a simple reliable weapon. in 1973 I found one after 4 months in the dirt of Suez canal. it was rusted. full of mud. I washed it in the canal. it was loaded. cocked and bullet in the chamber. it operated like new with its original muddy magazine. auto and single shots

[Billrube]

Hard to stop at just one....

[TGO David]

On 7/30/2017 at 5:32 PM, btq96r said:

 

Just weird seeing an all black AK with Magpul furniture added.  Kind of like an already perfect small town square that didn't need five extra strip malls surrounding it.

 

That's a weird comparison.  It's kind of like saying "No, that woman is too attractive.  I'd rather have the frumpy one with a lot of cats."

 

[btq96r]

1 hour ago, TGO David said:

That's a weird comparison.  It's kind of like saying "No, that woman is too attractive.  I'd rather have the frumpy one with a lot of cats."

 

Plastic Magpul parts on an AK = cats.

Glad we agree.

[JohnC]

Congrats!

 

Now pick up an AK Pistol!

 

 

 

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[Dolomite_supafly]

My "pistol".

[Urse]

You could always go Plum to be more authentically tacticool. I like the magpul furniture it makes the gun better. Here is a visual cluster......plum and black furniture, blue sofa, green pillow and red wall......

[TGO David]

@Dolomite_supafly recommended the RS Regulate optics mount for my new Commie blaster, and I happened to have a Trijicon MRO lying around so...

[Ronald_55]

Looks like you are a little high on that violet to get a clean kill. lol

[felinesNfreedom]

Sweet set up. PSA will be my next AK.

[Dolomite_supafly]

4 minutes ago, XxthejuicexX said:

Sweet set up. PSA will be my next AK.

What do you have now?

[felinesNfreedom]

12 minutes ago, Dolomite_supafly said:

What do you have now?

Intrac Knox Arenal Bulgaria AK-47, It is the Hungarian Kit with a milled receiver. SLR-100

 

Not a Gordon but I love it.

[Garufa]

18 minutes ago, XxthejuicexX said:

Intrac Knox Arenal Bulgaria AK-47, It is the Hungarian Kit with a milled receiver. SLR-100

 

Not a Gordon but I love it.

Hey, that's what I have!

[felinesNfreedom]

11 minutes ago, Garufa said:

Hey, that's what I have!

Sweet!  How is the finish holding up on yours? Mine is not pretty but it runs great.