Finnish M27 Without a D Stamp

[TNBuckeye]

I posted this on a Mosin forum as well, but thought it might be fun to ask here.

 

I recently traded for a 1934 Tikka M27 that does not have a D stamp on it. In the reading I have done, it sounds like this not that common, but also certainly not unheard of either.

 

I would be curious for the perspectives of those of you who have been doing this for a while how often you have run across this? I have only run across 3 M27s in person in my short time collecting, have acquired all 3, and still have 2/3.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

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[No_0ne]

As you said, not unheard of, but not unknown either.  You find "missing" D stamps more often on Civil Guard rifles, but that's to be expected as the "D" stamping was the result of the regular Army's attempts to standardize the chambering of all their weapons for the D-166 bullet. There are multiple reasons why this one didn't receive the stamp, including an oversight by the armorers or the possibility that this rifle was never re-chambered. The "F" mark indicates this rifle was originally chambered for the earlier Finnish 7.62x53r cartridge, which was dimensionally very close to the later D-166 cartridge, enough so that many people have had no problems shooting modern ammo, YMMV of course. I see this rifle also has the original Russian-type rear sight aperture, without the flat plate aperture normally added to these sights by the Finns.  What stock type does it have, is the bolt of the "winged" variety, and what nosecap type does it have? If you have found 3 different M27's in the wild, you've done better than most, typically you have to search auction sites and collector forums to find even that many.  Nice rifle, btw.

[TNBuckeye]

As you said, not unheard of, but not unknown either.  You find "missing" D stamps more often on Civil Guard rifles, but that's to be expected as the "D" stamping was the result of the regular Army's attempts to standardize the chambering of all their weapons for the D-166 bullet. There are multiple reasons why this one didn't receive the stamp, including an oversight by the armorers or the possibility that this rifle was never re-chambered. The "F" mark indicates this rifle was originally chambered for the earlier Finnish 7.62x53r cartridge, which was dimensionally very close to the later D-166 cartridge, enough so that many people have had no problems shooting modern ammo, YMMV of course. I see this rifle also has the original Russian-type rear sight aperture, without the flat plate aperture normally added to these sights by the Finns.  What stock type does it have, is the bolt of the "winged" variety, and what nosecap type does it have? If you have found 3 different M27's in the wild, you've done better than most, typically you have to search auction sites and collector forums to find even that many.  Nice rifle, btw.

Thanks! Some additional photos below.

Stock is Finn spliced with rounded fingers. Nose cap is second type. No wings on the bolt or slots in receiver. NEW receiver. Looks like a postwar refurb that was untouched after refurbished.








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[No_0ne]

2 minutes ago, TNBuckeye said:

Stock is Finn spliced with rounded fingers. Nose cap is second type. No wings on the bolt or slots in receiver. NEW receiver. Looks like a postwar refurb that was untouched after refurbished.

Agreed.  I see the rear sight has the "racetrack" style of eliminating the Russian arshin markings, that along with the non-modified rear site aperture makes me think it was most likely a wartime replacement of the earlier M27 sight.  These were done in that way for expediency during the war, by WWII's end the M27 was phased out of service in favor of the M39, but as you pointed out many were refurbed and held in storage for many years afterwards.

[Moped]

2 hours ago, TNBuckeye said:

 

Thanks! Some additional photos below.

Stock is Finn spliced with rounded fingers. Nose cap is second type. No wings on the bolt or slots in receiver. NEW receiver. Looks like a postwar refurb that was untouched after refurbished.








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Beautiful old war horse!!!

[peejman]

Cool. 

[Ramjo]

I have an m27 but unfortunately, I believe there is a hairline crack in the locking lug recess in the receiver.


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[TNBuckeye]

As you said, not unheard of, but not unknown either.  You find "missing" D stamps more often on Civil Guard rifles, but that's to be expected as the "D" stamping was the result of the regular Army's attempts to standardize the chambering of all their weapons for the D-166 bullet. There are multiple reasons why this one didn't receive the stamp, including an oversight by the armorers or the possibility that this rifle was never re-chambered. The "F" mark indicates this rifle was originally chambered for the earlier Finnish 7.62x53r cartridge, which was dimensionally very close to the later D-166 cartridge, enough so that many people have had no problems shooting modern ammo, YMMV of course. I see this rifle also has the original Russian-type rear sight aperture, without the flat plate aperture normally added to these sights by the Finns.  What stock type does it have, is the bolt of the "winged" variety, and what nosecap type does it have? If you have found 3 different M27's in the wild, you've done better than most, typically you have to search auction sites and collector forums to find even that many.  Nice rifle, btw.

I should add that it will chamber the small variety of 54r I have on hand, including 203 grain SP. I can't wait to try it out. The bore condition has me really excited. My other M27 has a dark, dirty bore, even after lots of scrubbing, and it still shoots ok. This one is comparable with some of the nicer M39 bores I have seen.


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