California 'road rage' results in car crash

[Randall53]

Whew.....I rode for years and would NEVER even think of doing what this rider did. He's lucky he didn't get killed pulling this stunt. Crazy....

 

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-40380154/california-road-rage-results-in-motorway-car-crash

[Ronald_55]

Wow. I think he may have already landed on his head too many times. And with the video, there is a good chance they will catch him and charge him for causing that chaos. Stupid. That is the kind of crap that gives motorcycle riders a bad name.

[Chucktshoes]

What the rider did was dumb, very dumb, but he didn't cause the crash. The driver of the car swerved their vehicle at the rider and that is what was the event that initiated the wreck. 

[Ronald_55]

I didn't say he caused it, but I have a feeling the charges would land on him.

[Chucktshoes]

Not saying you did and not disagreeing with your prediction on the charges. I've just seen this all over social media and a metric crap ton of folks apparently don't understand basic physics. 

[peejman]

You can't fix stupid, and there's a whole lot of stupid there. 

[Randall53]

Dude's a good rider though....I'll give him that. In about 5 seconds we see an awesome recovery from hitting the wall, an E-stop (or close to it), evasion action around an object in the road, then another E-stop(or close to it) while performing evasive action around a bouncing truck. It ain't his first ride!  

[peejman]

2 hours ago, Randall53 said:

Dude's a good rider though....I'll give him that. In about 5 seconds we see an awesome recovery from hitting the wall, an E-stop (or close to it), evasion action around an object in the road, then another E-stop(or close to it) while performing evasive action around a bouncing truck. It ain't his first ride!  

Odd, all I see is 2 complete idiots destroying a bystander's truck and sending him to the hospital in the process. 

[Randall53]

My point was simply this. I've rode a lot of miles on large bikes like cruisers and a couple of Goldwings I've owned. A huge number of people out riding today would not have rode away like this guy did, upright on his MC. They would have ridden away in the back of an ambulance after crashing into the wall. I've seen people crash a cruiser like that trying to stop at a convenience store. I do agree it was 2 idiots. 

Edited June 23, 2017 by Randall53

[E4 No More]

6 hours ago, Chucktshoes said:

What the rider did was dumb, very dumb, but he didn't cause the crash. The driver of the car swerved their vehicle at the rider and that is what was the event that initiated the wreck. 

You sure have a propensity to judge what others are thinking based simply on a video. Have you considered the possibility that the WHOMP! on the side of the car startled the driver? People tend to steer in the direction they look.

[bersaguy]

Well I watched the video and I will not make a judgement call either way because who knows what happened a few miles before the video began?...........JMHO

[peejman]

2 hours ago, Randall53 said:

My point was simply this. I've rode a lot of miles on large bikes like cruisers and a couple of Goldwings I've owned. A huge number of people out riding today would not have rode away like this guy did, upright on his MC. They would have ridden away in the back of an ambulance after crashing into the wall. I've seen people crash a cruiser like that trying to stop at a convenience store. I do agree it was 2 idiots. 

I understood your point and don't necessarily disagree. As you're well aware, its pretty difficult to make a bike fall over at 70 mph so brushing the barrier isn't that big of a deal.

People need to grow a pair, be a  man, and let stupid #### go.  

Personally, I hope he and his buddy in the sedan buy the victim a new truck, cover his hospital bills, lost wages, etc., and send him on a month long Hawaiian vacation with his extended family.

[peejman]

2 hours ago, SWJewellTN said:

You sure have a propensity to judge what others are thinking based simply on a video. Have you considered the possibility that the WHOMP! on the side of the car startled the driver? People tend to steer in the direction they look.

Given the comment from the camera guy that they both went flying past which prompted him to get his phone out and start recording, there's no way that was a surprise.  

 

Which makes me think of another point...  Always be the first to call. Had the idiot on the bike pulled over and call the cops saying "this lunatic tried to kill me and made another car flip over", he'd be in a completely different position now. 

But since he kept going, now he's the bad guy who's got some explaining to do. 

[bersaguy]

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8 minutes ago, peejman said:

Given the comment from the camera guy that they both went flying past which prompted him to get his phone out and start recording, there's no way that was a surprise.  

 

Which makes me think of another point...  Always be the first to call. Had the idiot on the bike pulled over and call the cops saying "this lunatic tried to kill me and made another car flip over", he'd be in a completely different position now. 

But since he kept going, now he's the bad guy who's got some explaining to do. 

 

"Given the comment from the camera guy that they both went flying past which prompted him to get his phone out and start recording, there's no way that was a surprise."

That is why I said I would not be judgemental on the situation because I think the problem began long before the guy began making the video. Either way the biker should have stopped at the scene and it made him look guilty even if he was not the person that actually provoked the problems beginning.............JMHO

[E4 No More]

On 6/23/2017 at 5:52 PM, peejman said:

Given the comment from the camera guy that they both went flying past which prompted him to get his phone out and start recording, there's no way that was a surprise.  

 

Which makes me think of another point...  Always be the first to call. Had the idiot on the bike pulled over and call the cops saying "this lunatic tried to kill me and made another car flip over", he'd be in a completely different position now. 

But since he kept going, now he's the bad guy who's got some explaining to do. 

Logical interpretation: however, vehicles speeding on the Interstate is pretty commonplace.  I simply presented another possibility, not a declaration of fact, because I was not there nor do I know what was going through his/her mind at the time. I cannot simply look at a video and declare what someone was thinking as some others think they can do. I've seen some weird  happen that doesn't look like what some other people think that it appears. People can do some pretty weird crap under stress or simply surprised. From the legal standpoint that motorcyclist could have disengaged, but he clearly chose to escalate whatever may have happened earlier. Heck, I've known bikers who carried tire tools to bang on a car if it came too close to them.

Edited June 26, 2017 by SWJewellTN
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[Capbyrd]

I ride and I don't understand the "get back at the car" mentality.  I don't understand ball bearings, or get back whips or kicking a door.  If you are on two wheels, you are ALWAYS going to lose.  ALWAYS! 

[vontar]

 

Enjoy...

 

 

[DWARREN123]

Stupid people being stupid.