9mm is the best handgun caliber. Period.

[Garufa]

9mm is European.   

[Oh Shoot]

1 hour ago, Garufa said:

9mm is European.   

Europe had guns before the white eyes came to America, try not to be prejudiced.

- OS

[Garufa]

7 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

Europe had guns before the white eyes came to America, try not to be prejudiced.

- OS

Doesn't it get hot carrying that matchlock in your pocket? 

Edited March 26, 2017 by Garufa

[MrShotty]

Im more 45 than 9, but I have more 9s (glock of course and cm9). My 10mm and 460 are kings of the safe

[Fourtyfive]

I have not shot my 10 yet, will have to check it out....

[JAB]

I absolutely, whole heartedly agree that 9mm is the best handgun caliber ever.  Period.  I mean, after all, .357 Magnum/.38 Special is, technically, 9mm, right?  Heck, there are even Ruger single action revolvers chambered in .357 Magnum/.38 Special that are capable of also firing 9mm Parabellum.  We all know that .357 Magnum/.38 Special is the best, all around handgun caliber ever invented, right?  So, even though Mr. Vickers may have gotten a little confused as to which 9mm is the greatest of all time, the basic premise as described in the thread title is 100% correct as well as being indisputable fact.  Period and exclamation point, no semicolon required.

Edited March 27, 2017 by JAB

[JAB]

On 3/25/2017 at 11:06 AM, gun sane said:

All I can say is that Sean Connery as James Bond (hats off everyone) fluctuated between a .32 and .380 ACP for several films and look at his body count.....I mean dead bad guys, not the other kind.   

Well, .380 is also a 9mm (called 9mm Short, 9mm Kurz or 9mm Corto in some places) so apparently even Bond eventually came around to agree.  Unfortunately, like Mr. Vickers, he just got confused and went with the wrong 9mm.  See, just one more example proving that the Metric System is too confusing.  Had he been using standard caliber measurements he would have known to go with the correct '9mm' - the .357 Magnum/.38 Special -  and all that confusion could have been avoided.

Edited March 27, 2017 by JAB

[DaveTN]

2 hours ago, JAB said:

Well, .380 is also a 9mm (called 9mm Short, 9mm Kurz or 9mm Corto in some places) so apparently even Bond eventually came around to agree.  Unfortunately, like Mr. Vickers, he just got confused and went with the wrong 9mm.  See, just one more example proving that the Metric System is too confusing.  Had he been using standard caliber measurements he would have known to go with the correct '9mm' - the .357 Magnum/.38 Special -  and all that confusion could have been avoided.

His wife probably told him just to stick with simply “nine”. As in “Honey your “nine” is so cute; that’s what I want, does it come in pink. Or, “Honey your “nine” doesn’t kick nearly as much as that “forty” or “forty five” or whatever that other big thing I shot was; they made my hands hurt.

[mikegideon]

On 3/24/2017 at 7:39 PM, MrJones79 said:

 

So says LAV. Sorry, I know what these threads always turn into, but valid points in his arguments.

 

http://us1.campaign-archive2.com/?u=7b1a9382c490b04b227c7c2b9&id=6fa649a4ab&e=852473e203

 

 

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Oh hell no! Larry has gone gay on us  

[Raoul]

The best caliber is the one you carry daily.

 

 

[RED333]

11 hours ago, Raoul said:

The best caliber is the one you carry daily.PERIOD!!!

FIFY Red333

 

 

Best post in the thead, so far. PERIOD!!!

Edited March 28, 2017 by RED333

[Steelharp]

.40 is dead. Period.

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/03/22/demise-40-caliber/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2017-03-28&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

[mikegideon]

42 minutes ago, Steelharp said:

.40 is dead. Period.

http://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/03/22/demise-40-caliber/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=2017-03-28&utm_campaign=Weekly+Newsletter

It was CYA for the Miami Shootout to begin with.

[Capbyrd]

20 hours ago, JAB said:

Well, .380 is also a 9mm (called 9mm Short, 9mm Kurz or 9mm Corto in some places) so apparently even Bond eventually came around to agree.  Unfortunately, like Mr. Vickers, he just got confused and went with the wrong 9mm.  See, just one more example proving that the Metric System is too confusing.  Had he been using standard caliber measurements he would have known to go with the correct '9mm' - the .357 Magnum/.38 Special -  and all that confusion could have been avoided.

People choosing to use half the name has nothing to do with metric or standard. You can do the same with standard.  .38 revolver.   Is it special or smith?  Don't know, not enough information. 

[JAB]

3 hours ago, mikegideon said:

It was CYA for the Miami Shootout to begin with.

Aaaaaand can anyone tell the class what caliber handgun was used by a super tough F.B.I. agent to end the Miami shootout and finally take the (admittedly already wounded) bad guys down?  A 9mm Luger?  Nope.  A .45acp?  Nope.  A 10mm?  Nope.  It was a .357 Magnum revolver loaded with .38 Special +P ammunition (ftw).

Edited March 28, 2017 by JAB

[mikegideon]

38 minutes ago, JAB said:

Aaaaaand can anyone tell the class what caliber handgun was used by a super tough F.B.I. agent to end the Miami shootout and finally take the (admittedly already wounded) bad guys down?  A 9mm Luger?  Nope.  A .45acp?  Nope.  A 10mm?  Nope.  It was a .357 Magnum revolver loaded with .38 Special +P ammunition (ftw).

Ding! Caliber didn't matter, except when the CYA fest kicked in.

[nightrunner]

4 hours ago, mikegideon said:

Ding! Caliber didn't matter, except when the CYA fest kicked in.

Easier to blame faulty equipment than to admit fault in their training principles.

[Taylor]

2 pages and nobody has started quoting physics to prove 9mm is the best ?????

Is everyone here new to Al's internet?

[Taylor]

The pendulum has been swinging back to the 9mm with alphabet groups such as the FBI. They will probably stay with it until they have to shoot someone 136 times ....AGAIN !!!

[nightrunner]

21 minutes ago, Taylor said:

2 pages and nobody has started quoting physics to prove 9mm is the best ?????

Is everyone here new to Al's internet?

Unlike old Al, most of us here prefer to know what we are talking about before flapping our jaws. The quantum physicists haven't made it yet

[mikegideon]

46 minutes ago, Taylor said:

2 pages and nobody has started quoting physics to prove 9mm is the best ?????

Is everyone here new to Al's internet?

I love Al's site. When it comes to this subject, the physics are simple. ALL the most popular handgun calibers are way underpowered. And, there's not a big difference in energy between any of the two. And, each has its strong and weak points when it comes to terminal ballistics. But, the differences just aren't big enough to make much difference, especially when you factor in capacity and shootability. I own most of them, and carry most of them. I carry mostly 9, just in case I have to loan my gun to my girl  

[Randall53]

Oh come'on....we all know that the best handgun for self defense is the one you have on you at the time of need. You can't talk self defense without talking conceal-abilty in the venue you are in when attacked. 22 - 45 beats a knife at a gunfight every time.

Edited March 29, 2017 by Randall53

[Taylor]

[DaveTN]

Caliber, like everything else, is application driven.  If the manufacturers would start making a 158 gr. 357 Magnum Rimless JHP; it and a .22LR would cover all my handgun needs. Until then a .40 S&W and a .45 ACP will be required.

But no, they waste their time with nonsense no one wants like .45 GAP, .357 SIG, and 10mm. 

[Steelharp]

12 hours ago, Taylor said:

Photoshop is an excellent program.