Need info

[Glenn]

Does anyone know if it is possible to get an inherited relic into the US? A friend of mine has inherited a Mosin used by his father in WWII. The bizarre thing is his father was a German soldier who spent the latter part of the war as a camp guard. Apparently they were using whatever scrounged weapons they could get

[MP5_Rizzo]

It will have to go through an FFL obviously and it looks like it can be done.

Might want to start here and see what you can make of it. Import Requirements Form 6 Surely we'll get an FFL with more knowledge to chime in soon.

Edited March 13, 2017 by MP5_Rizzo

[Glenn]

Thanks for the link. I had searched ATF website but didn't find inherited. It looks cut and dried.

Edited March 13, 2017 by Glenn

[No_0ne]

You are going to need the services of dealer's who import arms as a specific part of their business.  They will handle the business end of it, including customs duties and overseas contacts for a specified price.  Be aware, it's not just US customs and the ATF you will be dealing with, other nations have their own set of rules and regulations regarding exports, these can vary from place to place, and often include export duties as well.  It can be done, but it's going to be a much more expensive and time consuming process than a routine transfer between FFL's.

[No_0ne]

Quoted from a similar thread on gunboards.com recently:

" It's more than that Martin. It's whatever the cost of export permit. Shipping to and within the US, broker fees, excise tax and any other crating fees. I am at the start of this for myself for a gun from Sweden.

My experience thus far:
Export permit $86
Aluminum case $50
Shipping to US. $350
Broker fee - currently unknown
Excise tax 3% total retail value of gun ~$25
shipping to Simpsons from port of entry (Chicago) $50
Import paperwork $200 for 1-5 firearms.
Shipping to my location $50
Background check at local FFL $20 "

[Glenn]

Wow amazing for 1 gun when importers are bringing them in by the hundreds or thousands. I am sure my friend will not be able to afford that. That leaves his relatives in Germany to deal with it. It's hard to imagine what the rifle has been through. East Germany prohibited possession and I guess Germany still does

[1gewehr]

I would contact a dealer who does this regularly.  Simpson's Ltd or Cherry's Fine Guns come to mind.  They can give you some real numbers.  Shipping from Europe is not that expensive.

[No_0ne]

I agree that the shipping cost in the post I quoted above does sound unrealistically expensive, but from what I've gathered throughout the years, the other prices are typical, again depending on exactly where you are importing from.  As for the dealers who bring them in by the thousands, they are normally already set up to do these types of importation by virtue of being bonded importers, with the right type of FFL license as well as ATF and customs credentials.

[Glenn]

Thanks for the information. My friend will have to go it alone. I don't think I want to get involved. Seems like too much trouble, even for a family heirloom .

[No_0ne]

Have him get in contact with somebody who does that routinely, like Simpsons, et. al. as quoted above.

[Glenn]

UPDATE

apparently the lawyers in Germany took care of all the paperwork as my friend received a crate of personal items at customs. After signing a pile of papers he opened the crate and the mosin was included. I haven't seen it yet but he did say the front stock has been cut off. Cool to have a wwII rifle that you know the story.

[MP5_Rizzo]

28 minutes ago, Glenn said:

UPDATE

apparently the lawyers in Germany took care of all the paperwork as my friend received a crate of personal items at customs. After signing a pile of papers he opened the crate and the mosin was included. I haven't seen it yet but he did say the front stock has been cut off. Cool to have a wwII rifle that you know the story.

Sure would like to see some pictures of it if possible.

[Dolomite_supafly]

Kind of related but unrelated.

While I was in the military in Germany I travelled a lot with a team. The team was made up of different soldiers depending on what we were escorting. We were on a mission and had a few new soldiers one of which was a German citizen who joined the US Army so he can expedite his citizenship. Anyways, one of the stops was at Bergin-Belsen, a concentration camp during WWII. While there the conversation turned to us talking about concentration camps and things related to it. The soldier, who was German, obviously had some sort of personal connection by the way he spoke about it. After a few minutes the German mentioned that his grandfather was killed in one of the concentration camps. One of the other soldiers piped up and said his grandfather had also died in a WWII concentration camps. The German perked up and started to say something until the other solder said "yeah, my grandfather fell out of the guard tower and died". At that point there was a lot of pushing, shoving and yelling. Needless to say those two never worked together again.

[KahrMan]

24 minutes ago, Dolomite_supafly said:

Kind of related but unrelated.

While I was in the military in Germany I travelled a lot with a team. The team was made up of different soldiers depending on what we were escorting. We were on a mission and had a few new soldiers one of which was a German citizen who joined the US Army so he can expedite his citizenship. Anyways, one of the stops was at Bergin-Belsen, a concentration camp during WWII. While there the conversation turned to us talking about concentration camps and things related to it. The soldier, who was German, obviously had some sort of personal connection by the way he spoke about it. After a few minutes the German mentioned that his grandfather was killed in one of the concentration camps. One of the other soldiers piped up and said his grandfather had also died in a WWII concentration camps. The German perked up and started to say something until the other solder said "yeah, my grandfather fell out of the guard tower and died". At that point there was a lot of pushing, shoving and yelling. Needless to say those two never worked together again.

People in the restaurant I am in are wondering why the hell I just shot coke out my nose laughing. 

[Glenn]

This guys dad was a German guard and his mother was a Jewish nurse. I would like to know the details of that but it's way too personal to ask

[Sunfish]

You will need a 08 importer for this. Its a slow process and not exactly cheap. I doubt if the family thing means much from one country to another 

[Oh Shoot]

On 3/31/2017 at 6:58 AM, Sunfish said:

You will need a 08 importer for this. Its a slow process and not exactly cheap. I doubt if the family thing means much from one country to another 

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