Obama ranked as 12th best POTUS

[JAB]

So, it seems a group of historians has ranked Obama as the 12th best president in history.  Of course that same group of historians rank a president who pretty much single-handedly destroyed much of the Founders' vision of what the country and Constitution should be as number 1 - above even Washington and Jefferson - so I guess it isn't too surprising.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c-span-survey-obama-12th-best-president/ar-AAn3LK0?OCID=ansmsnnews11

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Edited February 18, 2017 by JAB

[gary_boom]

When are we going to start carving Mount Rushmore ?

[Grunt67]

One word explains it quite well.  "MSN."

[Grand Torino]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.......

[kieefer]

All that matter is were he ranks with me, and that's below a snakes belly.

[tacops]

That's funny.  I can't help but wonder where this "survey" ranked Carter. 

[mikegideon]

Fifth. He is the fifth...

President Obama was named the 5th best president by Texas A&M.

 

1 Reagan & Lincoln tied for first

2 Seventeen presidents tied for second

3 Twenty-three presidents tied for third

4 Jimmy Carter came in fourth, and…

5 Obama was fifth

Edited February 18, 2017 by mikegideon

[up2snuff]

So, everyone 12th and below made no significant contributions to the country.


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[aldodds3]

How many read the survey and understand the methodology? Agree or not this is an interesting perspective on how historians think. I think they are too generous with the former president in a few areas and too harsh in a couple. It's too soon to matter much anyways. And by the way OP they did not rank him above Lincoln or Washington in a single area.


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[RED333]

Well I did not get asked, my bet is no one else on this site got asked or the POS would not rank other than stink worse than a dead skunk!!!

[aldodds3]

Well I did not get asked, my bet is no one else on this site got asked or the POS would not rank other than stink worse than a dead skunk!!!

Well C-SPAN does say not all of the published or tenured professional historians returned their surveys. Maybe you were one?

But please don't tell me they forgot to include you in the recent NASA/NOAA PhD survey on climate change? Because you are equally qualified to participate in that.


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[mikegideon]

5 minutes ago, aldodds3 said:

 

Well C-SPAN does say not all of the published or tenured professional historians returned their surveys. Maybe you were one?

But please don't tell me they forgot to include you in the recent NASA/NOAA PhD survey on climate change? Because you are equally qualified to participate in that.


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Did you just come here to smack people around?

[JAB]

On 2/19/2017 at 11:19 AM, aldodds3 said:

How many read the survey and understand the methodology? Agree or not this is an interesting perspective on how historians think. I think they are too generous with the former president in a few areas and too harsh in a couple. It's too soon to matter much anyways. And by the way OP they did not rank him above Lincoln or Washington in a single area.


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I didn't say that they did.  What I said was that these historians rank Lincoln - a president who pretty much destroyed the Founders' vision for the nation and more or less made us all 'subjects' of the federal government - as number one, above Washington, Jefferson, etc.  I said that to put their ranking of Obama as #12 into perspective.

Edited February 20, 2017 by JAB

[aldodds3]

Well I misunderstood and appreciate the correction. Interesting point.


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