Anything online as good as Amazon

[TerryW]

I'm done with the chief Libtard at Amazon.  COE Jeff Bozo of Amazon said he supports ANY lawsuit against the terrorist ban put in place by the POTUS.

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-amazon-trump-lawsuit-20170131-story.html

 

Is there anywhere as good as amazon?  

 

[Raoul]

Not really. Although I saw that Wal-mart was getting ready to ramp up their online sales and home delivery.

[2.ooohhh]

Recently started ordering from jet.com for stuff we used to subscribe and save, seems cheaper most of the time.

[nightrunner]

1 hour ago, Raoul said:

Not really. Although I saw that Wal-mart was getting ready to ramp up their online sales and home delivery.

Saw a report where they just cancelled their clone of Amazon Prime, $50 a year for free 2 day shipping. Now it's just straight 2 day shipping on any order over $35, supposedly. I hate Walmart just as much as Amazon. I still use Amazon though as it's the best online shopping unless I'm missing out on something else. I will be watching this thread for other suggestions. Pretty sure Amazon supports gay marriage too for those that it matters to.

Edited February 2, 2017 by nightrunner

[Omega]

I have started avoiding amazon, unless on sale, many of their items are just not very competitively priced, seems like they upped the price to cover "free" shipping, and they collect TN Tax.  I have used jet, Walmart, and just straight to the vendors site depending on price, many times beating amazon rates.

[DaveTN]

I usually feel sorry for companies that get caught up in the political minefields that have nothing to do with their business. But this guy is an idiot. Of course when you are worth 71 BILLION, a hit on your company may not be a big deal to you.

[TerryW]

I was afraid there isn't anything like Amazon.  It's so easy to click and have it on my door 2 days later.  I feel like an Amazon addict and I need help. Like Google (another Libtard site) is the usual search engine, Amazon is my price checker.   

[JAB]

The good thing about ordering through Walmart is that you can do 'site to store' and not have to pay any shipping charges, etc.  It also means your package is secure until you pick it up, not sitting outside your door until you get home.  For urban dwellers (or anyone else) who run a risk of having packages stolen this might be a factor.  I am not so much worried about theft in the rural area where I live but it also means the package won't potentially be sitting in the rain, etc. until I get home.  I haven't used Walmart's service all that much but I did order my Ontario RAT 5 via Walmart site to store and the experience was good.  Of course, there are two Walmart locations between where I work and home so it isn't a big deal for me to swing by and pick things up as I barely have to go out of my way in order to do so.

The problem is that Amazon has things that Walmart doesn't - although Walmart does have things available online that they don't generally stock in the stores (my RAT 5, for example.)  I have to be honest and say that, until and unless an alternative comes along, I will probably still order from Amazon on occasion.  That said, I haven't been ordering much at all from anywhere, lately.  I have always been the type of person who preferred to actually lay eyes on a product and have it in my hands when I pay for it.  I pretty much felt that way about ordering from catalogs before things like Amazon existed and now feel that way about ordering online, as well.  There are things that cannot be obtained locally, however, or at least not easily.  For instance, I have ordered sheets of thermoplastic (Kydex) via Amazon as well as different colors of paracord.  That, to me, is one of the benefits of Amazon.  I might could order everything that I have gotten from them online from various suppliers but with Amazon you can order a pocket knife, flashlight, some kydex, some paracord and a balaclava and have them all (if you choose) arrive in the same order so that you only pay shipping once or might even qualify for free shipping.

Edited February 3, 2017 by JAB

[TrickyNicky]

Ebay is getting better and better all the time from a consumers point of view, they have competitive pricing, lots of vendors there and often shipping is free if you shop for it. 

 

They're no Amazon though. Not even close when you consider the streaming that's free with prime. 

 

At the end of the day I'm tired of boycotting businesses over opinions anyway.  I disagree with the chic- fila company on stuff, but I still eat the chicken.  

[JAB]

2 hours ago, TrickyNicky said:

Ebay is getting better and better all the time from a consumers point of view, they have competitive pricing, lots of vendors there and often shipping is free if you shop for it. 

 

They're no Amazon though. Not even close when you consider the streaming that's free with prime. 

 

At the end of the day I'm tired of boycotting businesses over opinions anyway.  I disagree with the chic- fila company on stuff, but I still eat the chicken.  

Not to sound defeatist but I think there is also an economy of scale thing involved.  Amazon, for instance, might piss off some of us with the opinions of the CEO, etc.  We are free to boycott if we wish but we must realize that, with a huge company like Amazon, we probably aren't really going to make a dent and the company probably won't even notice.  People who use Amazon regularly or even semi-regularly and who decide to boycott, however, will notice when they have to go out of their way to find a product that isn't available locally, pay more for the product than it might cost on Amazon, end up paying more total shipping because they can't order everything they want from one place with one shipping fee or get the product, find it is defective, damaged or just the wrong thing and don't have Amazon to back them up when trying t make it right with the vendor.  Not every person who boycotts Amazon would face those things but some will.  Meanwhile, as I said, Amazon probably wouldn't even notice that there was a boycott so those folks would only be hurting themselves.  As there is no, real alternative to Amazon that does exactly what Amazon does the phrase, "Cutting your nose off to spite your face," comes to mind.  Still, for some people the positive feeling they get from knowing that they, at least, are not supporting Amazon may well be worth it.

Also, while I don't agree with Bezos and hope that the lawsuit he is supporting fails miserably, I have to commend Amazon on certain things, as well.  My former sister-in-law works for their Athens site as an order picker and based on discussions with her I think that, on the whole, the company treats its employees exceedingly well.  Now, I am sure that they work hard but Amazon at least acts like they appreciate the hard work.  In fact, I think a lot of companies could learn from the way Amazon treats its employees.  Obviously, by their example, companies don't have to treat employees like crap in order to make a buck or be successful.  For that reason I am kind of torn about boycotting them, anyway, even if I thought such a boycott would be effective.  While I don't agree with the political stance at the same time another big issue that is always at the forefront of my mind is the way companies treat their employees.

Edited February 3, 2017 by JAB

[Erik88]

2 hours ago, TrickyNicky said:

Ebay is getting better and better all the time from a consumers point of view, they have competitive pricing, lots of vendors there and often shipping is free if you shop for it. 

 

They're no Amazon though. Not even close when you consider the streaming that's free with prime. 

 

At the end of the day I'm tired of boycotting businesses over opinions anyway.  I disagree with the chic- fila company on stuff, but I still eat the chicken.  

 

You read my mind. I'm starting to check EBAY first. Just yesterday I needed a new filter for my fridge. It was $15 on Amazon, $9 on ebay. Different brand but neither one was the OEM part.

[JAB]

Following up on my last post, another thing to consider is that Amazon could close its doors today and Brezos would still be filthy rich.  He probably has more money than he could ever spend so even a successful boycott would not be likely to hurt him.  It would, however, hurt all of the employees who could and likely would lose their jobs if Amazon's business declined or if Amazon closed its doors.  If we want jobs for Americans then boycotting a company that hires lots of Americans might not be the best approach.  Again, people are, of course, free to spend their money anywhere they wish.  Heck, I generally avoid Target but to be honest I didn't really shop there very much to begin with.  I just wanted to toss it out there that the intended consequences of a boycott and the real consequences can be very different.

[Raoul]

It's kinda funny. I started buying from Amazon when they were actually a book store. That's it, just books.

[et45]

Ebay is getting better and better all the time from a consumers point of view, they have competitive pricing, lots of vendors there and often shipping is free if you shop for it. 
 
They're no Amazon though. Not even close when you consider the streaming that's free with prime. 
 
At the end of the day I'm tired of boycotting businesses over opinions anyway.  I disagree with the chic- fila company on stuff, but I still eat the chicken.  

A lot of items purchased through eBay come from an Amazon FC.


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[Oh Shoot]

3 hours ago, et45 said:

A lot of items purchased through eBay come from an Amazon FC.

Yep. Been surprised any number of times when you check tracking from vendors that show another state (though most just identify as "USA") that the shipment origin was one of the TN distribution centers. The packaging is pretty distinctive too, sometimes uses Amazon tape, sometimes not but all similar.

- OS

 

Edited February 4, 2017 by Oh Shoot

[btq96r]

I've been using Amazon since 2002.  They're not always the lowest price, but they're pretty close 9 times out of 10, and the time/frustration savings at being able to skip the store are a value in itself. 

It must kill some of you that the free market is favoring more than a few companies owned and run by liberals.

[Raoul]

8 minutes ago, btq96r said:

I've been using Amazon since 2002.  They're not always the lowest price, but they're pretty close 9 times out of 10, and the time/frustration savings at being able to skip the store are a value in itself. 

It must kill some of you that the free market is favoring more than a few companies owned and run by liberals.

Some are just less dogmatic than others. No need to poke a stick in anyone's eye.

[mikegideon]

I'm tired of trying to keep up with all the social justice warriors that need to be boycotted. I figure the Donald won't forget. It's one of his "personality flaws" I'm pretty sure he's not gonna lose at the game.

I'll pick some opportunities to spend money elsewhere. I just won't go very far out of my way to do it. I figure half the folks are trump supporters, so it will probably hurt the libtard in the long run. Again, I will make sure some money gets diverted to other vendors.

Edited February 5, 2017 by mikegideon

[Rightwinger]

3 hours ago, btq96r said:

I've been using Amazon since 2002.  They're not always the lowest price, but they're pretty close 9 times out of 10, and the time/frustration savings at being able to skip the store are a value in itself. 

It must kill some of you that the free market is favoring more than a few companies owned and run by liberals.

And it must kill you that liberals are exploiting the work force and making a killing using capitalist processes.  Amazon runs through associates like poop through a goose.  Its fun to watch your views and then your life methodology.  Big corps are keeping the man down....but I buy from them all the time.

I've bought from them twice, on the wife's account and only because she was already ordering something so we saved on the shipping.  I love Ebay and the Pay Pal credit system.  Never paid them a lick of interest.  I also note a trend that super libs become vocal AFTER they make it really big.  When they were fighting to get their little start ups going, I bet it was all process, value stream, costs costs costs (labor is cost!).....then they could say what they want after using the methods they now state they despise.   Carry on.

 

[btq96r]

Just now, Rightwinger said:

Its fun to watch your views and then your life methodology.  Big corps are keeping the man down....but I buy from them all the time.

I'd be 100% in favor of certain labor friendly laws to cover Amazon's (and every other megacorps) workforce.  I'm all about a capitalist process as long as it's regulated with an aim towards protecting the middle class.  Companies can't be trusted to do the right thing by their workers on their own, they need rules to force it.

As to my choices...I'm really just picking the best of bad options when it comes to dealing with megacorps.  Walmart, Amazon, Target...if I need something for the house they all like low cost labor and a system that favors them.  Amazon just fits my current lifestyle from an ease of ordering process.  It's also worth mentioning their are 2nd and 3rd order effects in shopping through Amazon that support the delivery industry, which I consider a benefit to the working class people holding those jobs.

[Rightwinger]

I'll ask it again....when one of you sets the bar that we can all debate then we can talk.  Whats the freaking bar.  What's the limit of to much?

Those workers don't put any skin in the game but showing up.  They don't invest in it, put risk capitol out there but always got the hand out there demanding more.

I'm sorry, and although I am "the man" management, I don't make a hell of a lot more than what they can with OT.  Where is making a profit obscene and no longer "fair"?  If it were the sweat of your brow on a company you ran or managed, I bet your idealism would change a bunch.  I wish I could charge every employee at my place that damages product, equipment or heck hits a freaking girder beam with their forklift.  Even if it were 5% they would feel the pinch of the budget finally on them, but no, they just show up when they want, will refuse overtime because it will push them out of EBT range.  I take care of my employees even though they could care less about how my reviews are judged by their actions.  And BTQ, it will never be capitalist if govt is involved in the process.    I'm getting tired of being told we don't make enough.  If I actually paid some of these folks what they did in actual value some days, they would be writing the company a check instead of the other way around.  There it's out in the open.  Discuss

[btq96r]

28 minutes ago, Rightwinger said:

There it's out in the open.  Discuss

Not sure if you specifically have the ability to fire employees, but in a right to work state, issues like "showing up whenever they want" sound like a standards issue more than anything else.  They might not have skin in the game by your definition, but you apparently need their presence to make things happen or I assume they wouldn't be getting payed in the first place. 

And sorry if we disagree on governments role in a capitalist economy.  But the government is going to have a role, and I want it to be making sure anyone working the equivalent of a full time job receives enough to live outside of poverty with access to medical services that won't break the bank for them. 

As far as I'm concerned, the economy would be to decide what jobs have value under those conditions, because companies aren't in the business of paying for jobs that aren't needed.  Fixing the welfare side of things that enters into the OT issues you raise are valid, but labor reform has to come first, IMO.

[Rightwinger]

So no number stated for what's to much for a company or individual to make.

Want's govt to step in and determine wages rather than market and individuals determining their "value"

You are correct that companies don't pay for jobs that are not needed.  Their sole purpose is to MAKE MONEY, all other value is determined by those that want their product or services.

I think you just need to come out and admit you want a socialist style society which has proven over and over won't work.

[MrJones79]

Unfortunately there is nothing even close to Amazon. I mean, the damn company is starting to test drone delivery! Ugh. Anyway, it's the worlds biggest marketplace and with the Prime benefits it's just hard for anyone to compete with them. They have so much scale it's ridiculous.

I think Bezos is entitled to his opinion just like any. I find it harder and harder to decide where to spend my money. On the one hand, I want to speak with my wallet and on the other hand I know there are good people trying to make a living working at these companies who would have their jobs in jeopardy if sales dropped.

One industry I am finding it hard to support is film/TV. I mean, holy s**t, talk about liberal delusions running wild...


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[mikegideon]

8 hours ago, Rightwinger said:

So no number stated for what's to much for a company or individual to make.

Want's govt to step in and determine wages rather than market and individuals determining their "value"

You are correct that companies don't pay for jobs that are not needed.  Their sole purpose is to MAKE MONEY, all other value is determined by those that want their product or services.

I think you just need to come out and admit you want a socialist style society which has proven over and over won't work.

Fun watching this conversation. I remember when you had two jobs.