Dealer FFl transfer for family out of state

[jwhjwh54]

Dad would like to give me a pistol but I'm a TN resident and he's an Al resident . Do y'all know any dealers in the nashville area that would do the ffl transfer if he brought the gun up next time he visits nash?

if that's the legal thing to do I'll call around and ask myself but what I guess I'm really asking is that the proper way to transfer the gun into my name 

Edited December 26, 2016 by jwhjwh54

[Dolomite_supafly]

Yes, it needs to transfer through an FFL in Tennessee. Make sure the FFL will accept transfers from individuals, some will not. 

[Ronald_55]

Is the gun registered to begin with?

[jwhjwh54]

Yeah it's registered 

[MP5_Rizzo]

 

1 hour ago, jwhjwh54 said:

Yeah it's registered.

Like Tennessee the state of Alabama does not have any registration requirements on firearms.  So I'm not sure what you mean by being registered unless this is an NFA firearm which I'm under the impression it is not.  If your father is going to ship the pistol to you it will need to go through an FFL if he is going to travel with it to your home and give it to you in person I don't see where an FFL needs to be involved as long as both parties are legaly elidgeable to own it.  I'm just giving my opinion and I'm not an expert on the subject this is my opinion and I'm sure someone else will come along and agree or refute this.

 

[jwhjwh54]

By registered I meant it was bought legally through a dealer. 

[runco]

This might help you:

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/0501-firearms-top-10-qaspdf/download

[jwhjwh54]

1 hour ago, runco said:

This might help you:

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/0501-firearms-top-10-qaspdf/download

Thank y'all. I know how to proceed !

 

 

 

 

[Oh Shoot]

1 hour ago, MP5_Rizzo said:

 

...if he is going to travel with it to your home and give it to you in person I don't see where an FFL needs to be involved as long as both parties are legaly elidgeable to own it.  I'm just giving my opinion and I'm not an expert on the subject this is my opinion and I'm sure someone else will come along and agree or refute this.

 

Refute. It's a federal felony. He could will it to son with no FFL involved, but he'd have to be, you know, dead.

- OS

edit: can also be loaned "for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes", but that's of course a possible can of worms down the road.

Edited December 27, 2016 by Oh Shoot

[Ugly]

24 minutes ago, jwhjwh54 said:

1 hour ago, runco said:

This might help you:

https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/0501-firearms-top-10-qaspdf/download

This directive must be why I feel so safe in society. 

Rocket science types running the show there! 

Perhaps Chicagoans don't have to follow this law.....

 

 

[eRay]

55 minutes ago, Ugly said:

 

Chicago is actually not a part of the United States. It is an entity of it's own,sort of like an Indian Reservation or the Russian Embassy.

Edited December 27, 2016 by Eray

[monkeylizard]

You're on the right track. He needs to take it to an FFL in Tennessee, who will then transfer it to you. Like Dolomite said, just call your local FFL of choice and ask if they do transfers from individuals. Make sure they're OK with him bringing it in instead of having it shipped in. There's no law preventing them from doing so, but some make it a policy not to. If your FFL won't, call the next one. Repeat as needed until you find one.

Edited December 27, 2016 by monkeylizard

[Dolomite_supafly]

The biggest reason some FFLs don't like guns from individuals, at least from what I have been told, is it increases the chance of receiving a stolen firearm. 

[runco]

9 hours ago, Dolomite_supafly said:

The biggest reason some FFLs don't like guns from individuals, at least from what I have been told, is it increases the chance of receiving a stolen firearm. 

I believe its the hassle factor and loss of time to resolve the issue factor. 

When I was a FFL, I had a Winchester 70 on my rack on display for sale.  The original owner found it, contacted the police and both he and the police showed up.  He presented his information to me, and the police wanted to see my information.  I had receipts where I had purchased it, and the matter was over in 10 minutes or less.  The rifle owner got his gun back.  Then a couple of days later, I had to spend about an hour and half to get my money back (travel, police, etc.).  I had purchased the rifle at a pawn shop in the next town.  I had to get the police, I had to bring the paperwork, and the pawn shop was like me, very cooperative.  So all in all, it took close to two hours away from my time that I could have been working.  Funny story, the pawn shop presented info to the police, they had only had the rifle for 1 day before setting it out to pawn.  Not sure of the laws today, but back then pawn shops had to hold items like 21 days before placing an item out for pawn.  Hmmmm! 

[Oh Shoot]

14 hours ago, Dolomite_supafly said:

The biggest reason some FFLs don't like guns from individuals, at least from what I have been told, is it increases the chance of receiving a stolen firearm. 

 

5 hours ago, runco said:

I believe its the hassle factor and loss of time to resolve the issue factor.

I don't see any big hassle regarding that with simple transfer. TICS checks for stolen firearm, may not be perfect system, but once it's transferred, the FFL doesn't have any further responsibility in the matter except to make his records available for any future investigation.

And it's not like he's doing the transfer for free.

- OS

[runco]

2 hours ago, Oh Shoot said:

 

I don't see any big hassle regarding that with simple transfer. TICS checks for stolen firearm, may not be perfect system, but once it's transferred, the FFL doesn't have any further responsibility in the matter except to make his records available for any future investigation.

And it's not like he's doing the transfer for free.

- OS

May not be a big hassle but nonetheless a hassle.  Some FFL folk just don't like the added effort of having to deal with it, otherwise I am in your camp.  No big deal.  Just my 2 cents as a former FFL. 

[Oh Shoot]

1 hour ago, runco said:

May not be a big hassle but nonetheless a hassle.  Some FFL folk just don't like the added effort of having to deal with it, otherwise I am in your camp.  No big deal.  Just my 2 cents as a former FFL. 

Well, your scenario involved buying a used gun for resell. Which between FFLs didn't even require any kind of background check AFAIK, which also meant in TN no stolen gun check.

This, after all, is simply a 4473 transfer, no different than any other except the name of the transferor. Fill out 4473 and bound book, 10-20 min. No overhead in stock, no risk on getting burned down the road. For easy money seems to me,  which after all is the idea of having the door open in the first place?

- OS

Edited December 27, 2016 by Oh Shoot

[runco]

44 minutes ago, Oh Shoot said:

Well, your scenario involved buying a used gun for resell. Which between FFLs didn't even require any kind of background check AFAIK, which also meant in TN no stolen gun check.

This, after all, is simply a 4473 transfer, no different than any other except the name of the transferor. Fill out 4473 and bound book, 10-20 min. No overhead in stock, no risk on getting burned down the road. For easy money seems to me,  which after all is the idea of having the door open in the first place?

- OS

Is it possible that a FFL does not want any part of the hassle?  Regardless of easy money or not?

[Oh Shoot]

1 hour ago, runco said:

Is it possible that a FFL does not want any part of the hassle?  Regardless of easy money or not?

Of course. Which is why so many charge an outrageous fee or don't do it at all. You'd think they were all making a killing without it, too, 'cept that so many go bust over time.

Obviously, no FFL must sell or transfer any gun to anyone he doesn't want to, short of a possible protected class situation.

- OS

Edited December 28, 2016 by Oh Shoot

[Capbyrd]

If you don't want a hassle, don't get an FFL.  The system is stacked against us and FFL holders should be our advocates.  While I can understand that they need to run a business, should be on our side as well.  They are just the special few that chose to delve deeper into that hassle.