timcar86

I guess after training from Tiger McKee I'll have some trouble finding anything local that comes close but I might check these guys out if they have any good reviews. With that being said, has anyone here received any training from them and was it worth it?

From what I understand, the phrases that start with a "y" (y'all, y'uns) were from old English dialect that stuck around in Appalachia. Y'all = Ye All and y'uns = ye ones.

So after much gun fondling... ...she picked out a Glock 19. Turns out heft and thickness was a big deal to her. (insert smartassed sexual joke here) So that's what we're going with. On a side note, do the folks behind the counter at Frontier hate all their customers or just me? The guy at the Kingston Coal Creek continues to impress me though. Prices aren't the best but to show some appreciation I think we'll pick it up there.

I'm looking at that option as well.

So several months ago I took my wife to choose a carry gun. I didn't give her any restrictions and only answered questions. She eventually chose a Sig p238. Now that she's fired it and thought about some other weapons, she wants a different gun. I've given some suggestions but she's super picky. She likes firearms in the size range of a compact 1911 but not the recoil of a .45. Her biggest complaint of the 238 was the thin grip. So I need some suggestions. Can't be anything with a long trigger pull like a LCP.

He joined us for lunch on day two and we really got the chance to pick his brain on a lot of topics. He was using his colt 1911 and it did look like it had been in and out of the holster about 1,000,000,000 times. He showed us his Katana AR that was built to his specs by Red Jacket and the reason for each detail. I had my AR with me and asked his opinion about what he would change on it. Like I said in the above post, very down to earth.

Let me start out by stating that I'm not former law enforcement or military. Also, I had never received any formal training before this class. I heard Tiger McKee on the Tom Gresham radio show "Gun Talk" and thought he sounded like a level headed guy so I looked up his school. I was pleasantly surprised when I discovered that it was a mere 3 hours away. I checked the schedule and signed up for the first handgun class in a series of classes, the Defensive Handgun class. The requirements of the class were pretty simple; 800 rounds of ammo minimum, at least 4 magazines, a holster and a magazine pouch. I Needed more magazines, ammo a new holster and a mag pouch. Couple all of that with the 400$ for the class, gas, food, hotels, etc. and it probably cost me about 1200$. I arrived at Scottsboro AL on the 2nd of August and got settled in. I thought about driving to Shootrite to make sure I could find it but decided to stay put. I woke the next morning to 3 separate alarms and a wake up call. I was not going to be late. I got some breakfast and shot down the road to Shootrite. I arrived at Lois Lane, yes, Lois Lane, and turned onto the gravel road to a mass of "no trespassing signs". I wasn't certain I was in the right place but I drove on and spotted an old tan trailer with a steel sign that simply read "Shootrite". I'm not sure why I felt a little some initial dissapointment at the building but I guess I had the mental image of a shiny new huge building. The feeling quickly faded and I pulled my black Ranger next to a white Ranger and shut off the ignition, I was an hour early. The door to the trailer opened up and a very unassuming man stepped out. "How are you?" The man exclaimed. "Tiger McKee", he introduced himself. I instantly recognized the voice and introduced myself as well. He told me there were only going to be 3 people taking the class, including myself. I was pretty happy about that, more attention. He said he was going to get some breakfast and I could stay in the trailer just to lock it up if I left. Pretty trusting I thought as I unloaded my stuff. I told him I'd already eaten and would hang out until he got back. I waited around a while and the two other gentlemen that would be taking the class with me showed up. Both named John but one went by "Chief". The were both former military and from South Carolina. We chatted for a while about, you guessed it, guns, until Tiger showed back up and we went in and started the class. The classroom stuff started out with safety and the mental attitude with fighting. I was furiously taking notes as my intent for this class was to teach my family everything I could learn. I even audio recorded much of the lectures but out of respect for Tiger I will not be posting them. When it was all said and done I would end up with 5 pages of notes. We went over the training we would be receiving over the next couple of days, got some suggestions for books and discussed other topics like the Colorado active shooter incident. I quickly discovered that Tiger McKee is a very efficient man. His big thing was no wasted movements would equal speed. His training and speech were the same way, No excess words, no excess instruction. It made for very easy to understand training. There were almost no times when I didn't understand what he was trying to convey. It's a rare gift that someone has knowledge coupled with experience and the talent to pass on that knowledge to others. Tiger McKee has that gift. After the classroom stuff we headed to the range and began with the basics of stance, grip, drawing, loading, reloading and holstering. They may seem like simple things but there were so many details that I never learned that made so much sense. When Tiger showed us these details, he also explained the reasons behind every one. I'm a huge fan of that method of teaching. You can tell someone how to do something but if you give the reasons for the details in that action it will be retained much easier. One of the very new things that I learned was scanning. After you make a shot, make sure the guy is down and then scan around for more threats. Statistics say if you're attacked it will be by more than one person. You scan after the shot(s) and while you holster. At one point Tiger pulled out a knife and was waving it around behind us. The other 2 guys didn't see him while they were scanning but I saw and was very confused. He explained that we shouldn't be just swinging our heads around but looking at the environment, even at the range. One of his tips was train like your life depended on it because you fight how you train and in a fight your life will depend on it. We worked on shot placement and transitioning between shooting multiple shots to large targets quickly and slowing down to place a more precise shot on a smaller/more distant. The next day we went straight to the range and worked on clearing malfunctions, long distance shots (out to 50 yards), moving and shooting and shooting from a retention position (gun held close to the body, not extended). There were many drills that we did to incorporate all of these things together and once again, out of respect for Tiger's livelihood I won't post those here. At the end of every drill, Tiger was quick to ask each one of us, "What are you learning?" By forcing an answer we all had to recall the drill and how it applied to us. Another great teaching aspect of the class. At the end of the 2nd day we went back to the class and had a debriefing about what we had learned and how to use it when we went back home. Tiger McKee is not larger than life. He was very down to Earth, level headed and efficient. He never got in anyone's face, yelled at anyone, cursed at anyone and always explained what he was trying to teach. If someone had a malfunction or made a mistake he simply said "fix it and keep going". If you're thinking about taking a class, take one at Shootrite. Side Notes: - It's hot in the summer in AL. The only shade is under the shelter during breaks. Take lots and lots of water. - Take sunglasses. The range is mostly rock and gravel that reflects the sunlight. - Make sure your stuff works before you go. One guy was using a Sig 220 with some new magazines. Two of the new magazines would literally blow apart when he slammed them into the magwell. He cleared a lot of malfunctions before switching to a different gun. - Just my opinion, but a gun without a double/single trigger would be preferable. Even at close range, the first shot of the guy with the 220 would be off target by quite a bit. - Just another of my opinions but a safe-action gun seemed to work a lot more smoothly than a gun with an external safety or decocker. I was using my S&W M&P 9mm and not having to remember to put the safety on/off during drills took out an extra step. - A gun with a high cap mag will keep you on the range longer. Or, if you have something like a 1911, make sure you have a lot of mags. I had over 100 rounds in magazines every time I went out. The guy using the single stack mags ran out every single drill while myself and the other guy with high capacity magazines stayed out and finished. You'll get more range time is what I guess I'm trying to say. Do yourself a favor and take a class here. It's well worth the investment and will give you the tools to build upon for future more advanced training. Even the two guys who were former Army were very surprised at the details of pistol handling that they had never been taught. - Tim

I've done a search but I'm having trouble finding out if I can have a long gun with ammo close to the gun in AL. I'm in a truck and I pack all my stuff in the same case so I just want to make sure I won't get in trouble in case of a stop.

I did hear a lot of "hints" about how to modify the weapons to bring them up to the rest of our standards...

So I had the misfortune to visit the people's republic of California for a few days and while I was there I though I would check out a California style gun store. I was staying in the heart of Orange County and thought that I wouldn't be able to find much. I did a quick Google map search for "firearms" and it pulled up a couple of shops within the hotel's shuttle range. I picked the one with the best reviews and headed off, not expecting much. I ended up at a place called rifle gear which, in addition to a nice online store, have a very nice brick and mortar store. When I walked in the place was packed! It was literally 4 deep at the counter and there were 5 employees working frantically. You literally had to take a number to be seen! Every single item was behind the counter so you had to see an employee to get your hands on something. I was there for about 30 minutes and saw more guns sold then at any time in a store here in TN. I realize that the CA guns laws are designed to discourage guns from being bought and sold but the short time I was there I discovered that they weren't working. AR's and AK's were flying off the walls there. One would be sold, the guy would pack it up for the waiting period and go to the back grab a gun to take it's place on the wall. All the staff were super friendly and fairly well educated on firearms. Every gun salesmen in TN that I've encountered couldn't hold a candle to how well these guys (and one gal) performed. Another thing that surprised me was that the entire staff was Asian. I know OC has a pretty large Asian population but being from East Tennessee it was somewhat of a shock to walk into a gun store and see an all Asian staff. Most of the customers were Asian as well. All-in-all it was a very positive experience and one I hope would be replicated close to home. If the Sh**t ever does hit the fan don't be surprised if the gun owners of CA hold their own.

I've heard that but it doesn't rest there for long and if the magwell can't take a couple pounds of pressure then I think we're all in trouble.

Made that stand with some scrap metal at work. Saw the idea at coal creek but the stand was some sort of polymer I think and it slid up into the mag well. I thought, I could make something like that, and decided that something to hold a magazine would be better than sliding something oddly shaped into the mag well. Anyway, it makes a pretty good shooting rest to zero a rifle as well. Really nice for hands free stuff on the top of the gun.

I do it every time. I'm in the Hell that is Turkey Creek, driving by and I think "I'll go in for a minute and see if they have any ammo on sale." THEY NEVER DO!!! In fact, their ammo prices are DOUBLE, that's right, double what Walmart sells for. My jaw dropped when I saw a 100rnd box of 9mm Federal for 44$! However, I still walk through the door. It must be something about how it's laid out or some sort of hypnotism. Anyway, I need to stop going in because it's always disappointing when I do.

Anyone know of a reputable dealer of silver and gold in the Oak Ridge area? I'd like to pick up some silver without getting gouged.

Yeah, my range is outside so I'm pretty used to it and I also work in a pretty hot environment. I'd much rather be hot than cold.

Pretty excited. I'll be taking the defensive handgun course in August. It's something I've needed to do and I'm finally getting around to it. Now I need to stockpile some more ammo. If anyone else has visited there I'd love to hear about your experience.

I like this one. My wife and I both watch that also. Unfortunately, she would absolutely forget about that and look at me like I had a third eye if I uttered that phrase in an odd situation.

I like that idea. I've read too many stories of a family member shooting a "bad guy" only to find out it was another family member sneaking back in.

I was watching my 14 month old daughter play on my porch yesterday when I thought "what if some weirdo came up here?" I would be in an awkward position to say the least. I wasn't wearing my gun and I was grilling and keeping an eye on her. If some shady character came onto my porch I would want my gun but wouldn't want him to know that. I decided that if I wanted my wife to get my gun for me but didn't want to tip someone off, I would use a code phrase. We decided to use the phrase "go get my glasses" since I don't wear glasses (note: 20/15 vision ) So the question is, what would be some more scenarios that would warrant a code word or phrase?

I went with a yellow nail polish and it stands or well against dark targets. I seem to lose it against brownish colors though. I might try a bright green next. I'll try to snap some pics when I can.

I was thinking about painting the front sight of my AR and I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with different colors. I thought about red but i'm not sure. Any help would be appreciated.

It's loads of fun, cheaper than tannerite and you get a similar reaction.

It's a NIKON D7000, my wife's camera.