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Shoot those Silver Tips and make sure you don't get rimlock. I shot some Silver Tips I have had on the shelf a couple of weeks ago and I had quite a few malfs. Switched over to JSPs and nary an issue. http://www.1bad69.com/keltec/rimlock.htm If you think you need to carry .32 ACP JHPs you need to build the spacer. I would recommend just using JSPs. http://www.realguns.com/articles/251.htm I've shot a lot of .32 ACP ammo through P32s and found no JHP worth mentioning. But S&B or Fiocchi JSP works reliably. I don't want to get shot by either 3 or 4 times. I basically never pull the trigger just once with the P32 unless I am dorking around trying to hit 25 yrd targets which isn't hard with either hand one handed. I never even carry the P32 on the "strong side." I'm so used to shooting it left handed one hand it feels kind of weird in my right hand. I never shoot it two handed.

I wish I had a DW pistol pack. I just threw that out there for the OP to consider among the many other .357s folks suggested.

I like Ruger's "aggressive" marketing and new products, but is this narrower, shorter, lots cheaper than the other already established compact 9mm carry pistols?

Lots of Ruger MKIV info here: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=377

I may be repeating myself from an "ancient" post. A good young friend of mine was a Wounded Warrior and after discharge from the military he went to gunsmith school in Taos, NM. We were discussing once about good "value" .22 pistols,realizing ergonomics are probably as much a factor as anything because the "pipes" all seem to work pretty well, trigger reset another issue in some pistols. He said someone had brought in to the school a Ruger MKII 5.5 bull barrel because they had dropped the pistol barrel first onto the concrete. They recrowned the barrel and tuned up the innards. One guy brought out a High Standard Supermatic Citation and another guy brought his S&W 41. They had a shoot off with those 3 pistols with 5 different shooters. My buddy told me it was a wash. Additionally I have a friend who can shoot a S&W 22A better than anyone I have ever seen one shot. So, I'm thinking the "value" .22LR "pipes" made by decent machining work pretty decently. I would hazard a guess that many many Ruger MK series fans will get one more Ruger, a MKIV, just because. Once the rest of the .22LR pistol shooting world finds out how easy they are to field strip and clean, as well as the huge aftermarket, I suspect there will be a lot of new MKIV owners. Personally I was kind of amped up to get the newish S&W22A Victory, but glad I saved the money.

After having had a sizable pile of .22 handguns over the years I still like Ruger MK pistols. I particularly like the balance of the 5.5 bull barrel on the polymer frame, grip angle and trigger guard opening of the 22/45. Looking at the new MKIV I wonder it that hinged redesign would work well on the 22/45.

For me it is a Keltec P32 .32ACP as the most practical form of concealed carry on my person around town. If I want to go .2 of an ounce heavier:

XxthejuicexX, now you have have me very curious about the SigP320. Watched some vids and read about it for the first time today. If I were buying a new pistol I sure would take a look at that Sig. I've had a number of Sigs in the past.

It's hard to take a Dremel to a $500 gun, but a 17 chopped to take G-19 magazines has always made me have to adjust myself. Glock is a Dremel loving plastic gun that lends itself to fine tuning to nearly any shooter, even some handicapped shooters: http://brassstacker.com/glock/slide-pull-for-glock-pistols/ Additionally Glocks have a plastic that makes them prime platforms for dremel or even wood burning pen work. Additionally Devcon 290 adheres to Glock plastic making custom grips a possibility. Glocks have simple design that lends themselves to great aftermarket trigger parts: http://zevtechnologies.com/glock_products/glock_trigger_kits However if you want a really great 9mm large pistol the size of the Glock 17+ that gives you serious range cred then get a Single Action Sig 9mm.

This was posted 8/4/2016 https://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=5&f=37&t=168902 My buddy owns a pretty decent sized shop and we have one ordered specifically for him to shoot in some competitions. We placed the order in early January directly with CZ at a dealer show. He called CZ USA a week or two ago and was told he wouldn't see it anytime this year and who knows when next year. So...yea, that sucks as I was anxious to shoot it myself.

Having had S&W 28s, 19s, 66's, 65's, 60s as well as GP and SP Rugers, and one DW .357, I find myself without any revolvers nowdays. The good thing about revolvers over most "normal" pistols is that you can't have fun at the range with a pistol like you can with a revolver. One day another fella and I were shooting some hot Buffalo Bore .357 out of an 2.25" SP101 I had given an internal fluff and buff. We would encourage guys to come over and shoot that "little" revolver. I just loved watching their determined yet somewhat pained expressions, if not just plain surprise, coming over their faces when they pulled the trigger. Then there was that little ported titanium J Frame Taurus I had for a month or two. I would load it up with 158 grain JHP .357 and hand it off to fellas at the range. To see their expressions after that first shot made me giggle like a school girl. One day I put a loaded SP101 on the scale sitting on my work bench. Then I put a loaded Glock 19 on that scale. Economics dictated I keep only 1. I still have the Glock.

Good to hear. The only reason I might want one is for the full length grip safety for concealed carry. I've been in enough jacked up situations that I appreciate the idea of the full length grip safety, if it works and is reliable. I like 1911s and Springfield XDs but find them both a little iffy when everything goes "wrong." But the idea of a "better" grip safety still appeals to me if the rest of the pistol is reliable as well.

That Academy also had CCI Pistol Match. Garufu, I agree that SG Aguila is pretty good, I think that is who makes or made the SV .22LR that CMP was selling by the case a few years ago.

I was in Academy today to pick up a clearance fishing rod and some terminal tackle and strolled by the .22LR ammo. They had Federal Gold Medal, several different types of Aguila, Remington Goldens, some kind of .22LR in 550 boxes and several other types. I didn't buy any but I noted that one type of Aguila was priced at 3.49 or 3.99 box. I was semi amused that this ammo was at the gun counter and not at the service counter.

Since I quit working selling guns I haven't paid much attention to ammo availability since last November. Just out of curiosity I recently looked at a couple of ammo sellers online and it seemed that there is plenty of >10cent/rd ammo online. Is there no such thing as 5/7 cent/rd ammo left on the market? Also - is it still almost impossible to buy CCI 40 grain JHP or LRN SV in brick form in a store? If so, why - still?

http://www.t-grips.com/ I'm not sure how the Tyler t-grip business is doing these days, best do some research before jumping... http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/188583-tyler-t-grip-company-shutdown-shipping-again-15.html This might be a better option: http://bkgrips.com/

espacef1fan, I like the fact that you were able to use what you had at hand to make a pretty good pistol a pretty great pistol.

If you never had a short barrel .357 then you should get one. I've had a fair pile of them over the years. Regardless the frame size of the revolver a semi auto will give you more rounds down range. Both Ruger and S&W will get the job done, with the S&W probably smoother out of the box, but either can be made to run pretty nice. The short barrel versions certainly aren't target guns and the .357 out of a short barrel is pretty inefficient. Something really satisfying shooting a .357 out of a 6" barrel. I had some fun with a little 2" Taurus titanium ported .357. Really, the only thing that revolver was good for was to load it up and find some know it all at the range and say, "Man, I can't shoot this little revolver very well, will you show me how?" I never had anyone who shot that revolver say, "Boy that was sure fun, load it up again!"

If that R51 is working well and still selling this time next year, I might get one just to see about how about that grip safety works with my hands.

I've always been partial to the Whitney Wolverine, just never felt the need to raise the cash to get one or even its plasticized offspring.

If I ever stumble on a Mdl 51 in .32acp for a decent price... nah, that ain't gonna happen.

musicman, you're so harsh. I just want one to take apart and tweak it if I can. But if major components have catastrophic structural failures I am not much interested. I was looking at it like a Ruger or even a Keltec. Out of the box either works well enough, but with some TLC members of both brands can really sing a nice song.

Both of those P32s have a trigger shoe that is sold as a Keltec P11 aftermarket part. The geometry of the P32 trigger fits the shoe, you just have to narrow the show a bit and also take a little off the tip so it doesn't pinch, maybe some off the top too- but I modded those some years ago and the memory fades. I am pretty sure super glue was involved also. Everyone who has shot these thinks they are pretty cool. The good thing about the hardchrome besides easy cleaning is that neither gun has ever failed shooting any rounds and didn't need the classic Keltec "fuff & buff." http://www.keltecweapons.com/pf-9/pf-9-accessories/trigger-shoe/ I don't use hollow points in the .32 cause they don't penetrate or expand well. Ball penetrates much further. But if you are married to the notion of using hollow points you might want to look into these Keltec made rimlock spacers: http://www.keltecweapons.com/p-32-and-p-3at/p-32-accessories/p32-314-rim-lock-spacer/ If the $10.00 trigger shoe seems to be too much of a Rube Goldberg "enhancement" then you can get a nicer one from Galloway Precision for $45.00: http://gallowayprecision.com/kel-tec/p3at/sweet-spot-trigger-for-p3at/ Plinker4life can probably attest to that the little guns shoot pretty well even one-handed "weak" hand at some distance.

Thanks for looking. I "reacquired" another hardchromed P32 I had out on loan to a friend. Now I have two hardchromed P32s, again. Keltec doesn't even make the hardchromed version any longer. They make a nickel boron version but no hardchrome. Try to find one of those nickel boron models. I'm thinking a double shoulder rig...