MikePapa1

Well, at least it's not serious. One should never knowingly break the law unless they are prepared for the consequences. Maybe nothing will ever happen, but if it does, then things will get both ugly and expensive very quickly and, maybe, for a long time.

The law is neither fair nor just, it is, simply, the law. I tell young lawyers and law students who complain about unjust results based upon following the law, the same thing an old law professor told me when I, in law school, made a similar complaint: "If you want justice go to divinity school for that is the only place you can find true justice; this is law school and we follow the law." Over my 27 years of practice, no truer statement has ever been made to me.

Looks like a great trade to me.

My application was approved today. Thanks for the help.

My experience parallels what Dave just said.

I hate to be overly technical but that isn't a "hat." That is a cap. I wear hats. Mostly, Stetson fedoras and Open Roads, but those are hats, not caps. Now, don't get me wrong, I'll wear a cap too, when I think it's appropriate, but generally, I wear hats. Luckily, mostly, my wife doesn't mind a man in a hat.

Welcome.

The defense looked very good, the offense pathetic. Sad loss.

When I went out earlier I looked at the Regions on East Main in Gallatin. It's marked. I have a personal account there that will be closed tomorrow with the manager knowing why.

Who do I send the money to to join?

I'm in the same situation you are, Rusty, except my application has been pending since August.

I went to this event this morning. Now, I just joined the IDPA a week ago, but had never been to an event before. I was a first time shooter and, admittly performed poorly, but had an incredible time. It was well run and I was particularly impressed by the range safety rules. Everyone was friendly, helpful and encouraging which was really appreciated. The range was well organized and the stages challenging. Based on this experience, this was my first event but certainly won't be my last. It was great meeting Mike, the president of MCTS. I will be joining MCTS to help the club improve even more. Now, I have to start practicing weak hand and tactical reloads so I won't embarass myself so much next time. Thanks, guys, it was a great morning.

I looked both at my West German Sig 226 and my 250s and they look like that too. My 226 I've had since Sig made its first push for LE Agencies in the late 80's, early 90's. It's had thousands of rounds through it with nary a burp, so if it shoots good, I'd ignore it. If it bothers you too much, I'll give you $250 for it right now.

I signed, too.

I prefer not to print. Frankly, people seem surprised that a lawyer would carry regularly, but I know many who do. After all, who would EVER have sympathy for some lawyer. It's just easier not to advertise, in my view.

So far, I've not seen anything I don't like, but my favorite I suppose is homemade Blackberry Cobbler.

My permit came in 18 days. I was both pleased and surprised.

Two new ones in Gallatin. Sumner Gun and Ammo on Nashville Pike and Blue Line Guns on South Water. I've been to both, both pretty good shops. Ashenbranner Pawn on South Water also sells both new and used guns, has a bare bones but serviceable indoor range and a resident gunsmith.

I have a Marlin Camp 9 with a folding tactical stock that I keep in the car as my "car gun." It shoots well, in 9 mm and will take any defense loads you want to feed through it. It uses S&W magazines. The down side is its out of production, but I love mine and wish I'd bought the .45 model as well.

It looks to me like a .38 Safety Hammerless 4th Model which has had the barrel snipped. http://www.armchairgunshow.com/images/38-Safety-Hless-Mods.jpg

I, too, would like some additional information. Based on the facts here, in Tennessee, at least, he shouldn't be charged with anything higher than voluntary manslaughter and could be Criminally Negligent Homicide. If it really was a fight, then unless he was the aggressor, he shouldn't be charged with anything.

I've been reading about frangibles lately and I'm curious about them and was wondering if anyone had any experience with them. They are obviously designed to release all their energy on impact with no penetration, but I was trying to figure out if they had any place as self defense ammunition.

Which is why, Punisher, I suggested people here were not normally charged with Agg Assault unless they pointed it at someone. If you open carry, I would suggest you keep your temper because displaying a weapon, if you put someone in fear that you might use it, you could easily be charged. Here, you'd be charged with Reckless Endangerment under TCA § 39-13-103. It reads: 39-13-103. Reckless endangerment. — (a) A person commits an offense who recklessly engages in conduct that places or may place another person in imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury. ( Reckless endangerment is a Class A misdemeanor; however, reckless endangerment committed with a deadly weapon is a Class E felony. Notice the use of the word "may" in this one. Clearly, displaying an unholstered gun, without cause to do so falls within this definition. Again, feel free to ignore what I say. I have no problem at all with that. People often don't listen. Unfortunately, they often find cause to regret it. But with kids in college, I always get to charge more when they've ignored my advice so I'm not complaining.

I've worked with those sorts of folks, too. I've also practiced law for 27 years in Indiana and Tennessee. If you unholster your weapon and place people in fear that you may use it. Unless you have a very good explanation as to why you felt your life was in danger, you will very likely be charged. I don't like it, but I see people charged regularly that, in my opinion, should not have been. They are, however. The Aggravated Assault statute is VERY clear: 39-13-102. Aggravated assault. — (a) A person commits aggravated assault who: (1) Intentionally or knowingly commits an assault as defined in § 39-13-101 and: (A) Causes serious bodily injury to another; or ( Uses or displays a deadly weapon; or (2) Recklessly commits an assault as defined in § 39-13-101(a)(1), and: (A) Causes serious bodily injury to another; or ( Uses or displays a deadly weapon. What part of "displays a deadly weapon" is unclear to you? By the way, Reckless Aggravated Assault under TCA § 39-13-102(a)(2) is a "D" Felony and Aggravated Assault under TCA § 39-13-102(a)(1) is a "C" Felony.

Well, close. TCA §40-39-202 defines the offenses for the Sex Offender Registry. It says, in part:<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>“Sexual offense” means: </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td></tr><tr><td> </td><td> (A) The commission of any act that, on or after November 1, 1989, constitutes the criminal offense of: </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (i) Sexual battery, under § 39-13-505; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (ii) Statutory rape, under § 39-13-506, if the defendant has one (1) or more prior convictions for mitigated statutory rape under § 39-13-506(a), statutory rape under § 39-13-506( or aggravated statutory rape under § 39-13-506©; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (iii) Aggravated prostitution, under § 39-13-516; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (iv) Sexual exploitation of a minor, under § 39-17-1003; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (v) False imprisonment where the victim is a minor, under § 39-13-302, except when committed by a parent of the minor; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (vi) Kidnapping, under § 39-13-303, except when committed by a parent of the minor; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (vii) Indecent exposure, under § 39-13-511, upon a third or subsequent conviction; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (viii) Solicitation of a minor, under § 39-13-528 when the offense is classified as a Class D felony, Class E felony, or a misdemeanor; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (ix) Spousal sexual battery, for those committing the offense prior to June 18, 2005, under former § 39-13-507 [repealed]; </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (x) Attempt, under § 39-12-101, to commit any of the offenses enumerated in this subdivision (20)(A); </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (xi) Solicitation, under § 39-12-102, to commit any of the offenses enumerated in this subdivision (20)(A); </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (xii) Conspiracy, under § 39-12-103, to commit any of the offenses enumerated in this subdivision (20)(A); </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (xiii) Criminal responsibility, under § 39-11-402(2), to commit any of the offenses enumerated in this subdivision (20)(A); </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (xiv) Facilitating the commission, under § 39-11-403, to commit any of the offenses enumerated in this subdivision (20)(A); </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (xv) Being an accessory after the fact, under § 39-11-411, to commit any of the offenses enumerated in this subdivision (20)(A); </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (xvi) Aggravated statutory rape, under § 39-13-506©; or </td> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" height="1"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> <tbody><tr> <td rowspan="5"> </td> <td colspan="3" height="12"> </td> <td rowspan="5"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td> <td> (xvii) Exploitation of a minor by electronic means, under § 39-13-529; There are misdemeanors that can put you on the Registry, but not many. </td></tr></tbody></table>