Fallguy

There are more defenses to have a weapon on school property than just dropping off and picking up, they are in 39-17-1310, but that is the only one that would really apply to HCP holders. The exception in 39-17-1309©(1) only applies in situations where the person does not have an "intent to go armed". There is lots of debate as to what that means exactly...

In places where it may already be "legal" to have your firearm in your car, this bill is to prevent an employer from doing anything to affect your employment because you may have a firearm in your vehicle.

Well I don't think in this case his car was searched. As said above a LEO can take control of the firearm. But other than with your consent, probably cause or reasonable articulable suspicion a LEO shouldn't search your vehicle.

The Calendar Committee doesn't vote on the bill, they simply determine when the bill will be heard on the floor.

If you are taking pictures of your property, the public road or anywhere they don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy. don't see where any problem could be. 39-13-605. Unlawful photographing in violation of privacy. (a) It is an offense for a person to knowingly photograph, or cause to be photographed an individual, when the individual has a reasonable expectation of privacy, without the prior effective consent of the individual, or in the case of a minor, without the prior effective consent of the minor's parent or guardian, if the photograph: (1) Would offend or embarrass an ordinary person if such person appeared in the photograph; and (2) Was taken for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification of the defendant. ( As used in this section, unless the context otherwise requires, "photograph" means any photograph or photographic reproduction, still or moving, or any videotape or live television transmission of any individual. © All photographs taken in violation of this section shall be confiscated and, after their use as evidence, destroyed. (d) (1) A violation of this section is a Class A misdemeanor. (2) If the defendant disseminates or permits the dissemination of the photograph to any other person, a violation of this section is a Class E felony. http://www.lexisnexi...ttopics/tncode/

Speeding is not a captial offense. There are many people that can legally carry a firearm and he had already displayed his HCP with his hands on the whell, not like it was life or death at that moment. Officer safety does not trump every other concern on the face of the planet, they put their lives on the line by choice. There are many other less dangerous jobs.

For me after I click edit profile it is toward the bottom under a section called Converted. If it's not there, I'm not sure, maybe somone else will come along that can provide more help...

Is there not a gray box in the upper right corner of your profile page that says "Edit my Profile" ?

There are several post on here where the HCP holder was disarmed without any obvious reason other than that were armed period.

Here is the actually text of the law... 39-17-1351(t) Any law enforcement officer of this state or of any county or municipality may, within the realm of the officer's lawful jurisdiction and when the officer is acting in the lawful discharge of the officer's official duties, disarm a permit holder at any time when the officer reasonably believes it is necessary for the protection of the permit holder, officer or other individual or individuals. The officer shall return the handgun to the permit holder before discharging the permit holder from the scene when the officer has determined that the permit holder is not a threat to the officer, to the permit holder, or other individual or individuals provided that the permit holder has not violated any provision of this section and provided the permit holder has not committed any other violation that results in the arrest of the permit holder. http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/tncode/

Handgunlaw.us is what I always use. They seem to keep things pretty up-to-date

Interesting..... Still wonder if the same ruiling would be made today though...

That's a pretty old case.....are that not any that are more recent? I mean there is a SCOTUS ruling where "seperate but equal" was ok...but has since been reversed.

Yep...one of my favorite signs was..."In God we trust...all others checked through NCIC."

See the AG Opinion in this thread http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/46199-recent-ag-opinion-on-carry-in-courtrooms-and-39-17-1359/

Just another reason I don't hand over my HCP with my DL.

Hell...I didn't know there was such a thing as a misdemeanor weapons charge in NYC!

What OS said...the law actually says signs are NOT to be removed or changed. At least not until it would be necessary for regular maintenance. As he said, if signs would have had to be changed, it would have cost money...the cost of that would have been enough for some to vote against it. ....and just for the record...it doesn't have to be concealed. http://www.tn.gov/attorneygeneral/op/2005/op/op154.pdf

I think what he is saying is that even though you do it on your computer that you use as your NCIC terminal, NCIC itself does not have the DL/Registration information. ...and that is correct NCIC would only have it if it stolen, the RQ and DQ files are maintained by the TBI and it is their database that is searched for that info.

The law changed in 2009, a circle and slash is a proper posting now. Also if just words are used there are 3 pieces of info that must be included.

Ah ok. That was just getting started when I quit dispatching and we didn't have it while I was there...

Agree There are situations/locations can be a felony, but in general, if you are not prohibited from buying a firearm in TN, then possession without a permit is a misdemeanor. As far as defining "intent to go armed" there is this bill HB3499/SB3324 http://wapp.capitol.tn.gov/apps/BillInfo/Default.aspx?BillNumber=SB3324 I haven't seen the video...so I'm not sure what the amendment is they discussed.

Yeah, I didn't have to take off work either, but even if I had I didn't make anywhere near $75/hr in 1987 (or now for that matter). You don't have to own a firearm to take the class, you can borrow one from someone or some places rent them or my guess is most people already own one. I would guess it would be a very small majority that purchase a handgun just for taking the class. JayC it may have cost you around $2000 but I don't think it is going to cost the majority of people anywhere near that much. That being said, I'm like Robert...IMO no one should have to get a permit in the first place.

Although it wouldn't help him because of timing, there is a bill in Nashville that would define the "intent to go armed" or really it more defines some things that aren't....and I think he would qualify under one of the listed exceptions of the intent to go armed.

Yep... You can always find a use for a firearm in almost any situation.....doesn't mean it is necessary for the activity though or would qualify as a defense under 39-17-1308 Self-defense is a lawful activity, but try carrying a firearm without a HCP and say is for self-defense and see what happens.