Fallguy

So?......lol

This was only the vote in the Judicary committee. The bill will have to pass in all commitees before it is sent to the whole senate.

Also even though I don't regularly open carry I think that those who choose to should be able too and I would hate to start seeing you can in some places and not in other.

You are right Brian... Down with the "nanny" laws.

Yep.....if the don't want guns, they can post a sign. On smoking, if enough people that don't like smoke stop comming they will ban it themselves, don't need a law. Of course I know you mean this with all the jest intended....

AMEN!!!!! As Mike said...it has a decent chance of passing the senate, but the house is a different story. With out side tracking things...I also would like to see the bill passed to allow motorcyclists to have a choice on wearing a helmet...ever session it passes the senate, but Naifeh is able to kill it one little sub-committee each time so far....and probably this year as well..

Volunteer TV in Knoxville is doing a poll on the pending restaurant carry legislation http://www.volunteertv.com/ Running about 50-50 right now....

You can watch the committee meeting live at 3:30 pm by checking here The video link is active a little before the meeting time, but can't remember exactly how soon.

Then the last half of 39-17-1309©(1) applies and you are legal as long as you leave your gun in your vehicle and don't wave it around or go out at lunch and take it out and look at it etc...

T.C.A. 39-17-1310(4) is pretty straight forward. 39-17-1310. Affirmative defense to carrying weapons on school property It is an affirmative defense to prosecution under § 39-17-1309(a)-(d) that the person's behavior was in strict compliance with the requirements of one (1) of the following classifications: (4) A person entering the property for the sole purpose of delivering or picking up passengers and who does not remove, utilize or allow to be removed or utilized any weapon from the vehicle. and also T.C.A. 39-17-1309©(1) 39-17-1309. Carrying weapons on school property. © (1) It is an offense for any person to possess or carry, whether openly or concealed, any firearm, not used solely for instructional or school-sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in any public or private school building or bus, on any public or private school campus, grounds, recreation area, athletic field or any other property owned, used or operated by any board of education, school, college or university board of trustees, regents or directors for the administration of any public or private educational institution. It is not an offense under this subsection © for a nonstudent adult to possess a firearm, if the firearm is contained within a private vehicle operated by the adult and is not handled by the adult, or by any other person acting with the expressed or implied consent of the adult, while the vehicle is on school property.

I agree with you in refrence to 39-17-1302(a), that is why I asked my Rep to submit those questions and don't really agree with the opinion as I posted in this thread. Just another reason I'd like to see a complete overhaul of the firearms laws.

T.C.A. 39-17-1311 at least according to TN AG No 07-148 (Question 3)

You can carry on state property and buildings in general, unless they are posted. The only state property off-limits by statute is state parks.

Two bills scheduled to be heard in the Senate Judiciary Committee tomorrow. SB 1440 CRIMINAL LAW: Increases handgun permit fee Increases the handgun permit from $115 to $130. Requires $15.00 of the fee be sent to the sheriff of the county in which the applicant resides for purposes of reimbursing the sheriff for costs associated with performing eligibility checks. (HOUSE: HB 1800, Turner L.; Referred to House Judiciary Criminal Practice Subcommittee.) FISCAL NOTE: Dated: March 22, 2007 Increase state expenditures - $11,000. Increase local govt. revenues - $248,000. SB 0023 CRIMINAL LAW: Possession of firearm where alcohol is served Permits a person who has a permit to carry a handgun to carry gun in place where alcohol is served for consumption on premises if person not consuming alcohol or is not otherwise prohibited by posting provisions. (HOUSE: HB 0702, McCord; Referred to House Judiciary Criminal Practice Subcommittee.) FISCAL NOTE: Dated: January 5, 2007 Decrease local govt. revenues - not significant. Decrease local govt. expenditures - not significant. Committee members are Chair Beavers ®, Vice Chair Jackson (D), Secretary Woodson ®, Black ®, Kyle (D), Marrero (D), Norris ®, Stanley ®, Wilder (D). The committee phone number is 615-741-7821 Individual members can be looked up here.

Good deal!!!

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Just imagine what might have happened if you would have told her you had a permit and were armed.......

Just to clarify TN does not issue a Concealed Weapons Permit, it is Handgun Carrry Permit, it is only good for Handguns not other weapons (as in some states) and allows you to carry them open or concealed. If I was going to have to reach anywhere near my pistol I for sure would inform the officer first. I think the reason many people don't always volunteer the info right of the bat is because I have read many stories of what happened to steelharp even after or because they told the LEO they had a permit. While if they hadn't said anything the whole encounter may have just passed without incident. To me there is obvisiouly no blanket rule that can cover everyone in every situation.

Maybe, but there is still no excuse for what happened to you. The officer should know there are legally armed citizens in the state and they do not have a duty to inform. To me his actions would be the same as running a car off the road or using spike strips to stop a car without even turning on his blue lights first. I have only been stopped one time since having my HCP and I did inform the officer. But I agree with others that it depends on the situation, no sense in making an issue of something that is a non-issue. Depending on how long ago this incident happened to you...you should contact the officers supervisor.

Yes...but on both sides of the coin. +1

You do not have to inform an officer you are carrying but you do "have" to show your HCP upon request of an officer.

Given time and being left alone...the gene pool would thin itself over time.

True! A good place to check this is Handgunlaw.us

AFAIK any handgun of any caliber is ok to use. There are instructors on this board that may weigh in shortly.

Awwwwwwww Can't you just feel the love? Or is just all the beer?