sigmtnman

Then you are saying you could be mistaken and that you just don't see it? If so, then my apologies for misunderstanding your semantics. Are you familiar with Plato's The Allegory of the Cave?

I don't believe that's yours. It doesn't have a Ron Paul sticker on it. I keed, I keed. Nice selection and it should do the trick!

flame thrower

Robert, you've already stated in another thread that we have no logic. It can only be inferred that you feel your logic is superior and thusly we are stupid. Let me put it this way. I look at a president and elected officials similar to a wife, as I will be stuck with the decision for some time. I didn't settle on an ugly woman I didn't like and I won't settle with who other people think has the best chance to get elected. Do as you please, but stop inferring that your logic is somehow above others or at the very least, if you do, stand behind the statement.

Can't speak for DaddyO, but mostly because your question is obviously rhetorical and you have no desire to understand the opinions of others.

I see what you did.

Can't speak for others, but I've never said Romney would be worse. It seems to be pretty clear that I feel it would be the same excepting minuscule appearances that are neither here nor there. But, what scares me most is that the Romney apologists will allow the next step down the staircase because they will turn a blind eye as has happened in the past. It's quite juvenile for you guys to keep insisting that people who don't agree with your ideas are defacto supporters of the candidate you dislike.

"There is no "slippery slope" toward loss of liberty, only a long staircase where each step down must first be tolerated by the American people and their leaders." – Alan K. Simpson, U.S. Senator, New York Times, 9/26/82

That's how the supporters of both parties act. Check out the other thread where I was called a commieO supporter.

Does the media give any libertarian ideas legitimacy? No they don't because it would hit the pocket books of the multi-nats that own them. Will Romney or Obama or whatever other puppet the left or right stand up do it? No they won't because it will hit the pocket books of those who allow them to be the front runners. One election? That's ripe. This aint my first rodeo. Every single time we go through this. I'm told to suck it up and eat the #### sandwich, only to watch my rights deteriorate and the jackass who I was told to vote for actually contributes. It gets old. See I am a swing voter. I am not tied to a party because I feel they are both out for themselves and the corps they are funded by. If anything the members of both parties behave in a fashion that actually drives me away in their quest to sway me. It's quite ironic. Vote for who you like. If your man is viable, he will get elected.

OK. If you don't agree with someone it's always easier call names and make accusations. Are we still in high school?

Well, duh. It's a freedom thing; you wouldn't understand.

More bold may help your point Robert. I predict the same thing will happen that always happens. If Romney gets elected his apologists will ignore his crappy policies which march us closer to fascism/socialism/communism/whatevernonfreedomism you want to call it and blame the woes on Obama and congress. If Obama wins his apologists will do the same. All the while the difference between policy will be so minuscule that it would take an electron microscope to determine it. While everyone argues about the stupid ass trivial items that are paraded around as being important, much like a shell game. I've seen this song and dance with every presidency and every congress since I've been alive and every election we are told to toe the party line. Have at it guys, if yall are confident your man will win, what's the problem?

Then it will be no different than the other presidents who have forced their balls on us.

It's actually better since it is not Lincoln's.

Actually, it would be the same as Dr. Paul's proposal to end the IRS.

yup

Just google "nero cross" or "peace sign broken cross" and you will get all the info you seek.

Every election since I have been alive was "the most crucial election of our history". That crap gets old. You guys must have a finer view of the gray that separates the two parties anymore. My neck only knows that there is a boot, not whether it is the left or right one...

Yeah, poor choice there. It's a shame; they probably figured it would just lure the anti war crowd and didn't put any real thought into the history of the symbol.

All I can do is chuckle.

So let me get this straight. Obama can single handedly turn us into a communism but Johnson has no chance of furthering the idea of doing away with the IRS? OK, got it. It's not such a crazy idea to not have an IRS or income tax. The US did fine the first 130 years without an income tax. Heck by doing away with the IRS, it would at inherently end the ATF. http://www.irs.gov/i...=101101,00.html

And the road to hell is paved with good intentions or at the very least folks supporting the crap served up by the two "parties".

Come on DaddyO, you're not supposed to stand for or by anything anymore. Real men waffle these days in hopes that things will get better the next go around.