sigmtnman

  Many companies do business with a single client/customer.  Perhaps it's semantics, but I'd say that is far from opening the doors to the public.

  Why does opening a business equate with "opening the doors to the public"?

  As much as I'd love to blame the .gov, this looked more to be laziness or ineptitude.  In the case of the 21" tree, they cut it down after they laid two loblolly (bowater) pines over on it.  It was a solid 8' farther away from the pines in the middle of other trees.   Yeah, I didn't figure the "value" would be too great on a harvested value...  I could not imagine that clients grief you mention.   I'll see about getting pics and more measurements tomorrow.

  Homework, yeah! :(  Seriously though, it was a shocker to go for a walk the following Saturday and find it all.  Unfortunately, I don't think we have pics from before.

Ok. I just went and counted the rings on the 21" tree and it looks to be 45-50 years old.

    Dang, I didn't know you could buy a 30year old tree from a nursery.   Hmm for that kind of dough, I need to go into the tree nursery business.  :)   I'm still considering charging for all the o2 my trees make.  :D

No way.  That's cool.

Thanks, 56FordGuy.   You could be right, if you mean in the strict sense like virgin. I was using it a bit looser to mean that it was left from at least the last time the land was cleared.  Now, all that said, my understanding from poking around the inner tubes is that diameter has no bearing on age.  The density of the growth varies depending on environment.

A parent's worst nightmare...  Glad she's home!

Thanks for the response Jonnin.  Ugh...  Having to even post about this sucks.    I guess I'm looking for a "damages" type value; something to take to the electric company (EC) to seek restitution.    Would it be an arborist that would be able to help me?

The electric company came through our property and aggressively cleared for the winter.  They cut down 20-30 trees and oodles of limbs which are strewn across my property as though a tornado came through.  What is bad is that they cut down two of my old growth red oaks. One was 21" diameter (measured 3 feet off the ground) and ~80 feet tall.  The other looks to be over 24" diam. and over 80 feet tall, though its hard to tell the height the way it is laying down the hill covered up with other trees.   The right of way is 20' on either side of the wire/pole.  I know one of the oaks was outside of the 20'.  They took it out without asking after they laid two pines on it felling them.  The other I need to measure to see where it lays in relation to the ROW.  It looks like it was taken out for the same reason.    The elec. company says it's SOP to just drop the wood and leave it where it lays "in the woods", but this is my property and I'm left with a huge mess that will cost an arm and a leg to clean up or eat up all my weekends forever if I do it myself.   We cannot replace those two trees and we realize that, but this is very upsetting and I'm curious how to value them so we can decide how to proceed.

With a .50 revolver to boot.

"Easy to use, just add fire"

Yeah, it sucked.  I kept wondering why they didn't start out with the missles and plasma cannons instead of fighting.  But I guess that would have made for a shorter movie.  Actually they could have just set up a bunch of batteries on the coastline and shot them before they made landfall.

Shit, I'm in and I don't even know what it's about.  This will be easy since I've not eaten in one in 8 years or so.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VShpcqd3zE

  Yup, didn't know at the time about the OG.

I went to school with a dude named Guy Fawkes.

Probably should have checkpoints where they scan your phone real quick and make sure you have not been texting.

I'm at a loss.

  Back to the whole point of the OP and the originating blog post.  The system is functioning as designed.

  And the State?

  I agree with you for the most part.  What I don't agree with is the idea that our current system as run by our oh so capable government is the answer.  There needs to be something, but I don't envision it being anything close to what we have now.

  No, Jonnin is saying because half the people are stupid (in his opinion) public education is necessary and good. The fact that almost a quarter  of high school freshmen do not graduate and 1/5 of those graduates can not read makes that argument irrelevant.  He uses the cream of his crop to compare to the culls of homeschooling. Sure, there needs to be something in place for the kids who parents don't or can't care for them but is subjecting everyone to public education and it's ridiculous expense the answer?  It is if you desire a non entrepreneurial subservient working class.

  What is the effective success rate for public education?