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To add to this, the parking lot is not posted, the entrance to the building is not posted. So simple fact, anyone of you could actually visit said business, park in the parking lot and having your gun with your HCP and not be being any law. However, security might call a LEO and ask you to leave, being private property and all, and if you actually did have a reason to be at said business you would not get past the front desk with out an escort, which is where there is a sign that you can not carry inside, but you would have already been inside the building before you found that out.

*****Mods, if you feel I am out of line with this post, feel free to delete it and PM me*** Wife and I have an Old 93 Grand Am, it was not runing when had to buy her one so we couldn't even take it down for a trade in at the time we had to buy her a car. Well, it has sat here taking up space under my car port for 2 year now and I want to get rid of it, I know it would be worth something to someone, for either parts or scrap, but I don't know what cars for scrap are going for. It has decent tires on it, not running. Body is actually is good shape for the age. I have no way to tow it myself. It is in Oak Ridge for referance. Looking for some advise on places to contact to see about getting rid of it, would like to get something for it other then just totally giving it away. Maybe I should just start taking it apart, and taking it to nobel metals little by little.

Here is an interesting puzzle. Another thread got me thinking about this, but it is closed I won't name the company I work for. The company is not posted in a legal way, however inside at the reception desk there is a sign of items that are not allowed, which includes gun. It is not visible on the outside of the building by any means. As an employee at this company, it is in our handbook that we are not allowed any type of firearms on company property which includes having them in our cars in the parking lot. This effectively prevents people that may have HCP from being able to carry To and From work to protect themselves while they travel.

we should get 'Real Reporter' to ask the Aldermen how they would feel about losing some other rights, like freedom of speech or perhaps 13th or 19th Amendment's. They had to have the 2nd Amendment before they got to those.

I want to look at all their records, I feel she does not need more then 1 car, 1 home, 1 anything, including 1 vote. The people of Chicago need to stand up and vote them out. By their logic, the city does not need drug stores either? Seriously, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." I am not an English major, Nor did I stay at Holiday Inn last night, but the word arms is plural.

I believe I got myself added.

that is how smart people like you and I know the film has been edited, if it is a real event, example WW2 footage or other war.

Jab, you linked one I had found. However I know nothing about that company. Seems they have several interesting kits to buy though.

well if anyone is like me they may not know what this Critical Defense Ammo is(was). I did a quick google search and found a very good youtube video that explained it to me. YouTube - Hornady Critical Defense ammunition Looks like some good stuff to have for home defense, puts me in mind of the glaser safety slugs, designed to not over penetrate. Both seem to me, having pretty Jury friendly names if you had to win a legal battle and the opposing coucil wanted to try to use the type of bullets you used against you. These by very name sound better then some other brands as well.

count it as a battle scar, as in real life, scars are tattoos with better stories. My Dad's Mark 1 Ruger, 35 years old was once dropped in Barrel of Acid, about 20 years ago. Still shoots good, all the actions on it work. He told me last week, it had never been apart, but I remember as a kid when that happened and I know it was taken apart back then. It probably hasn't been apart since.

Hey if you can't trust the armed forced with weapons, who can you trust? Lets see, it takes 1 or 2 bad apples to do something dumb, and policy keeps 10,000 disarmed that are well trainned to handle it.

that is a +1 I don't have a link but someone needs to send them the HCP welcome sticker for their door.

The Death of Common Sense By Lori Borgman Three yards of black fabric enshroud my computer terminal. I am mourning the passing of an old friend by the name of Common Sense. His obituary reads as follows: Common Sense, aka C.S., lived a long life, but died from heart failure at the brink of the millennium. No one really knows how old he was, his birth records were long ago entangled in miles and miles of bureaucratic red tape. Known affectionately to close friends as Horse Sense and Sound Thinking, he selflessly devoted himself to a life of service in homes, schools, hospitals and offices, helping folks get jobs done without a lot of fanfare, whooping and hollering. Rules and regulations and petty, frivolous lawsuits held no power over C.S. A most reliable sage, he was credited with cultivating the ability to know when to come in out of the rain, the discovery that the early bird gets the worm and how to take the bitter with the sweet. C.S. also developed sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn), reliable parenting strategies (the adult is in charge, not the kid) and prudent dietary plans (offset eggs and bacon with a little fiber and orange juice). A veteran of the Industrial Revolution, the Great Depression, the Technological Revolution and the Smoking Crusades, C.S. survived sundry cultural and educational trends including disco, the men's movement, body piercing, whole language and new math. C.S.'s health began declining in the late 1960s when he became infected with the If-It-Feels-Good, Do-It virus. In the following decades his waning strength proved no match for the ravages of overbearing federal and state rules and regulations and an oppressive tax code. C.S. was sapped of strength and the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband, criminals received better treatment than victims and judges stuck their noses in everything from Boy Scouts to professional baseball and golf. His deterioration accelerated as schools implemented zero-tolerance policies. Reports of 6-year-old boys charged with sexual harassment for kissing classmates, a teen suspended for taking a swig of Scope mouthwash after lunch, girls suspended for possessing Midol and an honor student expelled for having a table knife in her school lunch were more than his heart could endure. As the end neared, doctors say C.S. drifted in and out of logic but was kept informed of developments regarding regulations on low-flow toilets and mandatory air bags. Finally, upon hearing about a government plan to ban inhalers from 14 million asthmatics due to a trace of a pollutant that may be harmful to the environment, C.S. breathed his last. Services will be at Whispering Pines Cemetery. C.S. was preceded in death by his wife, Discretion; one daughter, Responsibility; and one son, Reason. He is survived by two step-brothers, Half-Wit and Dim-Wit. Memorial Contributions may be sent to the Institute for Rational Thought. Farewell, Common Sense. May you rest in peace. **** I like digging this out every now and then.

Saturday morning I got up early, quietly dressed, made my lunch, grabbed the dog, and slipped quietly into the garage . I hooked up the boat up to the truck, and proceeded to back out into a torrential downpour. The wind was blowing 50 mph, so I pulled back into the garage, turned on the radio, and discovered that the weather would be bad all day. I went back into the house, quietly undressed, and slipped back into bed. I cuddled up to my wife’s back, now with a different anticipation, and whispered, ‘The weather out there is terrible.’ My loving wife of 10 years replied, ‘Can you believe my stupid husband is out fishing in that?’ And that’s when the fight started …

Do you understand diesel engines? well, i know they don't use Gasoline Do you know the differance between AC and DC currents? Alternation Current (Nikola Tesla) and Direct Current (Thomas Edison) Do you know the differance between a condenser and evaperator coils? not so much. Do you have a clue to what TCP-IP is? Yes, since I work in Tech support Like to travel? sure. Plan during the day, work at night? don't want to work of the night. Sorry, don't really like my job but I have good benefits and I have house payments.

I guarantee my family jewels will not be spent that way.

Call walmart and ask if they have any ammo for a 22 pistol, they will tell you no on the phone, they will normally be real jerks about it. Ask if they have 22 Rifle ammo and they will tell you they have all you need. Even though it is the same dam ammo. It is because Walmart seems to have an anti pistol policy or something. I am not exactly sure but I have been in the story and watched the employee on the phone with a person, and the employee would repeat back enough so I knew what the person wanted.

lately people have been reporting right at 3 weeks, some have been saying 1 day shy of 3 weeks. At least that is what I have been reading here.

At first I thougth I might have known who it was about. Well this person since they are alive won't qualify for the, The Darwin Awards but they might get a honorable mention since he won't be able to reproduce.

When I was 10, I remember Dad trying me out with several Rifles, 30 30's (sorry I don't know the proper way to list them) but he settled for the 270 mainly because he already used one so we could use the same ammo. I shot my first Deer when I was 11, Dad stepped it off, about 300 yards. I did have a place to take a resting shot on an old log, but I am still proud of that shot 19 years later. Hunting around old strip mines I have killed many deer at 200-400 yards with it. Funny thing It sounds like I just sit back and pick deer off at a distance. I have had deer come so close to me I could have reached out and touched them, but they where not legal. I think when I was 16(believe 16), the last time I hunted at chuck swan wildlife management area. I was on a juvenile hunt, we had got in the woods early Sunday morning. Dad started to drift off to sleep and I heard a deer. I woke him before it got to us, I spoked it walking right toward us. It was about 20 yards. it was so close I didn't even try to use the scope I just used open sights and dropped it. Nice 6 point buck. We where the first to check out that morning. I've some good stories with it. Dad has a few of my Miss's that I shouldn't have missed too.

well check this thread, same location, Cades Cove http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/handgun-carry-self-defense/42176-gsmnp-building-clearly-posted-you-make-call.html Look how poorly marked the building is, the guy had to wait for people to walk away before he he take a picture. The sign was not even near the no smoking, no pets sign. There is no standard way to mark a posted location, which makes it to easy for a person to mis a sign even when watching for them in some cases.

you are probably right there. You know, we have been using them for a long time and like most people are not fans of CHANGE if you know what mean.

Every Since I can remember starting deer hunting with Dad when I was 10, Dad had only brought one kind of Ammo. We both use 270 rifles. He has a Bolt Action, I have a semi Auto. He Gave me mine when I was 10. Dam fine shooting rifle. This is a gun I will never sell. I should be posting a picture of it. Anyways, Last year we notice we could not find Winchester 270 Silvertips We could find the twice as expensive Winchester 270 ballistics Silvertips. I remember we used to get the Winchester 270 Silvertips from 18 to 25 a box. Last I found them on line was freaking ridiculous in price. No store seems to have them. They all list them out of stock. Last night I found a posting that said they are a discontinued item on an obscure message board. I want to find out if that is true. I don't want to buy Ballistics really, but I may have to break down and do it unless I can find maybe another brand that sells something similar to the original 270 Silvertips. Any Ideas?

By quality, I mean what I would be looking at would be ones you coudl put together and actually shoot and not worry about blowing up in your face. I would not mind a some finishing work on them as that would just add some character to it. I probalby won't get into that until this fall/winter when the weather turns when I start looking for things to do inside.

However, Speed detectors can be wrong. Slip effect. Wrong car targetted. not blaming LEO's, but the machines are not prefect. This video is from England but it shows the principle.