c.a.willard

Yea it's called compromise and its not that incredibly horrible of an idea.  If people would get off their high horse on both sides of the isle and actually meet in the middle our country might not be in the shape it currently is.  There is enough public support and support from gun lobbyist to implement an outright ban on private sales.  In fact manufacturers and FFL's would profit from it.  A purchase ID if properly implemented would not interfere with your rights and might actually help to limit guns in the hands of criminals.  My personal opinion is that the firearms community should be willing to compromise IOT help lower the rate of gun crime in the U.S.  Yes this only treats a symptom and not the cause of the violence but it is a start

I hate to say this but we can all see the writings on the wall that some form of legislation against private sells is coming sooner or later it will happen.  I think the firearms community would be better served helping to shape that legislation rather than out right opposing it.  An example would be a annual firearm purchase permit.  Use that card in place of the NICS/TICS system.  As long as they made that card easy to get ie allow DOS to the TICS system to conduct a quick check on you and issue on the spot for say 15-20 dollars.  This would not get rid of every sell to unqualified individuals but i think it would limit them a great deal, and at the same time not be as heavy a burden on the firearms community as having to do a FFL transfer for personal sales.

Yep things were so great in the 50's that the active duty Soldiers had to escort kids to school to keep them safe.  It is also worth noting that there is not much difference in the homicide rate from the 1950's than there is today.  I would say that some of the perceived increase in violence comes from the ability to immediately see news from all over.    I do agree though that mass murders are more common today than they were in the 50's and 60's.    what i think is interesting that the numbers indicate is that if mass killings have increased and the per capita murder rate is about the same now that would indicate per capita there are less murderers now than there were in the 50's. 

  But that option is not even available to Soldier today.  The sole definitive method is the tape test, which out side of being mathematically inaccurate as a form of measuring body fat is also prone to human error.  i have personally seen a Soldier with 7 % less body fat (Hydro static test) than what the tape test said they were. 

1. Yeager is a douche 2.  The 1911 is a perfectly acceptable carry gun, although i prefer my 229 SAS 3.  Pie  mainly because well its better 4.  Standards Rant (I agree with almost all of it except for the tape process.  the fact is that the tape test is not an accurate measure of body fat.  I personally believe that before a  Soldier is processed out they should receive a more accurate method of measuring.  A good time for this would probably be at their mandatory meeting with the nutritionist.  The only reason the Army continues to use the tape method is because it is significantly cheaper than other methods.  It would not be cost effective to use the more accurate methods for every Soldier that is over screening table weight.  It would however not be terribly expensive to do for only Soldier who tape over. 5.  Yeager is a douche

There are a lot of purses out there designed specifically for concealed carry and quick access.

The only reason i compare it to the Colorado shooting is the relative close time span between the two and and the thought process that spree killers/active shooters are typically seeking long term fame resulting in a competitive mindset.  That's why i said i would expect the same number or higher.  Oh Shoot is 100% correct in that Colorado was a relatively small number compared to others around the world.  Especially considering the crowded conditions and amount of time the shooter had.  thankfully neither of these individuals were proficient in the use of arms.    I find it odd though that you never really hear about the Bath school bombing.  One of the worst days in US history left IIRC 45 dead counting the bad guy and his family that he killed before bombing the school.  Granted that was in the twenties which is why it seems to be forgotten.  I only bring up the Bath bombing to illustrate that firearms do not increase the likelihood of something like this happening. 

Although inaccurate i would say that from the average civilians perspective a tac vest and body armor look a lot alike.  Ive heard the body armor things about this one as well, and it doesn't jive with what we know so far about the shooters behavior.  Even a tac vest would indicate that he meant to engage significantly more targets than he did.  The reports about him wearing camo are probably accurate  this time of year there are a lot of people that wear some form of camo coat.  Either military surplus, or mossy oak etc  that and the urban camo look is popular with a certain set of individuals.    Again this is all just supposition.    I feel bad for the victims and there families, but i find this particular incident intriguing.  I have done a lot of research on the concepts of active shooters.  And the descriptions of volume of fire and initial reports of clothing somewhat fit that scenario, however the low number of casualties (A blessing) is an oddity.  Following this close on the heels of the Colorado shooting you would typically expect a similar or larger fatality count for a spree killer/active shooter.   Again, this is guess work but i think this guy was more of the traditionally homicidal type.     It's a sad world we live in when there are enough different types of murders that than can be classified. 

I've read a few articles so few and saw a short piece on the news.  They keep saying that the shooter is dead but have not said who neutralized the shooter.  Typically if it is police or security that is published fairly quickly.  This leads me to believe that it was either suicide or an armed citizen.  My guess would be suicide.  2 confirmed victims dead and 1 confirmed seriously wounded.  This is a very low number for a typical active shooter type scenario.  Again this is just my speculation, but i think the shooter went there with very specific targets in mind and at the completion of their goal took their own lives. 

Just sold my M&P 15 today on armslist. I personally like early evenings and walmart parking lots. Particularly near the automotive section. For me it is well lit camera monitored. The auto area has few enough vehicles not to attract unwanted attention while still being in a very visible location. I always text the persons contact info to my wife and write down a plate number. This post reminds me i still need to respond to the emails that hit my inbox while i was out selling it.

Just made some white chocolate chip cranberry cookies for a cookie exchange party yesterday. I took the remaining dough and maid myself a 8 inch diameter cookie.

I know this is going to sound gross, but buy some wolf or bear urine and mark areas around your property with it.

Bottom line is his negligence was criminal. Feeling bad about it afterwards is not a defense to the crime itself. Should it be taken into account during sentencing absolutely, but he should still be tried for involuntary manslaughter/negligent homicide.

I think that there is a need to seriously punish this guy. Yes he has suffered a terrible loss, however a ND killing someone fits the definition of criminally negligent homicide fairly well.

Mine came in today. Got a needle file set, dental pick set, precision screw driver set, and a watchmakers hammer with interchangeable heads. All great gifts that ill get a lot of use out of. The best part is i was going to go to harbor freight tomorrow to pick up a small hammer (dog chewed the last one) and a needle file set. Santa just saved me a trip.

[quote name='JayC' timestamp='1354805850' post='855841'] But this just isn't happening... You could pull somebody over and an 8 foot tall bigfoot covered in hair could jump out of the trunk and kill you... which is about as likely to happen as a valid permit holder is to shoot an officer during a traffic stop. The big problem here is, we don't know how often officers are disarming law abiding citizens, and nothing happens... There are no penalties if the officer breaks the disarming law, which appears to be happening on a regular basis. At the very least an officer unlawfully disarming a permit holder should be a criminal offense. It would be nice to require that every disarming be documented under the penalty of perjury stating the reason the permit holder was disarmed. Clearly a SOP (standard operating procedure) to disarm all permit holders during traffic stops would not be lawful under current state law, yet it appears that some officers and possibly some departments have such a policy. But, lets pretend there is such a rash of officer safety concerns that some permit holders need to be disarmed... why on earth do the serial numbers of their firearms need to be ran? This is [u]creating a computerized gun database[/u], and we should have laws (with criminal sanctions) preventing officers from running serial numbers on firearms unless that have probable cause the firearm in question is stolen. [/quote] On December 3, 2009, Bart Johnson shot and killed Pelham, Alabama, police officer Philip Davis during a routine traffic stop. Officer Davis had stopped Johnson for speeding. According to videotape from the officer’s patrol car, Davis and Johnson spoke briefly, and Davis then went to write Johnson a ticket. Upon his return, Johnson told Davis that his brother was a police officer. Officer Davis replied, “Why didn’t you tell me that before? Let me have his name and number so I can tell him what happened.” Then, “unprovoked and without a word, Johnson fired one shot, striking Davis in the face.” Johnson fled the scene, abandoned his Acura, and attempted to break into another vehicle. When he was noticed by someone, Johnson displayed his gun and waved the person away. He was later picked up by his brother and surrendered to authorities. A local pharmacist, Johnson obtained a concealed weapons permit in 2007 It does happen although rare. HCP holders are people too and are subject to being irrational and violent at times. There is no way for the officer to know how you may react to the situation so he chooses the safest alternative for him/her and disarms the HCP holder. I do disagree with running serial numbers on a weapon not suspected as being part of a crime, however there is no indication in the OP's post that this was the case. As i said before HCP holders attacking LE is rare, but please sight an example of an 8 foot bigfoot jumping out of a trunk and attacking someone.

I'm kind of surprised to see a board member recommending adding a restriction on a constitutional right. Also you already shot your own argument in the foot when you said the majority in your econ class does not understand how the economy works. I'd bet that the majority will still pass the course. Meaning under your rule they would still be allowed to vote.

Just because you can't have a pistol caliber carbine discussion without including it. The sub2000 available in 9 or 40 and well under your budget.

they can be found on ebay for around 60 a case.

It may have been covered already in another post, so sorry if i missed it. But i think it's flawed logic for anyone to assume the choke hold was the cause of death. The article specifically said the officer noticed the subject unresponsive and ordered the group of people to get off of him. This indicates that the subject may just as likely of died from positional asphyxia as he could have from the choke hold.

I still think Glenn should have just shot Merle when he had the chance. I mean you run around making moving head shots at way further distances. If they are that good he should have no problem with a well placed shot on a stationary target at close range. Of course that wouldn't do much to advance the storyline.

Depending on your zero distance and the distance your shooting this may be completely normal. I.E. If you zero at 25 meters your are going to be impacting roughly 6 inches high at 100 meters. It may be helpful if you post pictures of your set up. It may also be that your front sight is on a lower plane than your rear sight.

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I would think that would depend on whether or not the lower is a stripped lower and how it is on file with the FFL. A stripped lower can be used to manufacture either a pistol or a rifle (Typically listed in the category of Other on the paperwork) and as such may be treated like a pistol meaning you must to be 21 to purchase from a FFL. A complete lower is listed in their paperwork as a rifle and therefore should not require you to be 21

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