c.a.willard

the memo was dated today

for air rights see United States v. Causby     Also on the topic of drone strikes the justice department has released a second memo in response to a follow up question from paul.  In the secod memo the question asked was if it the president could use a drone strike on a US citizen not engaged in combat against the united states.  The answer was a simple no. 

Someone more educated than me on the subject should be along relatively soon but from what ive read it would depend on what the plug portion is made out of.  I know the magwell itself is aluminum but from my reasearch apparently the plug that secures it is brass and therefore a no go. I dont know if they are still brass or if an aluminum or steel plug is available.    It will definately fit in the box and not exceed the maximum allowable weight.  Id say unless you are a high level competitor just ask the club you shoot at and go off of there guidance. 

Welcome to the forum.  Youre not the only member from out of state there are several here.  If you havent frequented the forum much you'll quickly learn that this one is probably one of the best run gun forums on the interwebs.

yea, pretty much.  Thats why for once i agree with holder.    Now im gonna go wash my mouth with soap for typing that

IIRC theres some confusion about who actually gave the order but yes for all intents and purpose the order was given, although never received by the pilots in the air above new york

6.8 i have to respectfully disagree, the argument was about wether or not it was legal for the president to authorise the takeing of an American life on American soil without due process.  If we can agree that there are some situations in which a persons due process is forfeited because of the risk they pose to others than it is not a far leap to authorizing a different type of weapon for a greater public danger.  It would be no different that giving military fighter jets shoot down authorization over US soil. 

    Ive read it many times.   It is no more dancing around the 5th amendment than a police officer killing an active shooter, a swat MO taking out a hostage taker or any number of different examples where it is perfectly legal for a government entity to take a life without a trial.  perhaps it is you who should reread the fith amendment there is that whole part about public danger that you seem to be missing.

It was brought up because someone asked for a specific opinion on it.  Not even holder would have been stupid enough to voluntarily say it without being asked.  O.K maybe he is stuped enough, but still the article said it was in response to a question of could the president legally authorize a drone strike on US soil, his answer was yes in very limited circumstances it would be legal to do so. 

Im sorry but there is a difference between legal authority to use an armed drone and authority to commit assasinations on US soil.  A good example would be if there was a drone with an air to air missile up on 911 would the president have legally be justified in using that option. 

  And that is part of the the gun communities problem.  There are certain sources such as the GOA that we would like to beleive are not misconstruing facts to their benefit, but that is just not always the case.  When it comes to the argument of gun(people) control vs individual liberties it pays to individually verify the information given to you even if it is a trusted source.  When we spew out information without checking it first and its wrong it makes us seem ignorant at best.     Im not saying its a good law, It's not necessarily a bad one(gun grab)either.  What it is for sure is an unneccessary law that will in reality do next to nothing for that reason alone it should never had been proposed.  I suspect that in reality this law was designed to be more of a revenue generator for the fed  allowing them to take over cases that should remain firmly in the states hands.      Just my thoughts on it.  things i like vs dislike   Like:  Increase in mandatory sentencing may help put a stop to buying firearms in the current market just to mark them up for resale `(a) Any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer) who knowingly purchases any firearm for, on behalf of, or with intent to transfer it to, any other person, if that firearm has moved in or otherwise affected interstate or foreign commerce, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years or both. For purposes of this section, the term `purchases' includes the receipt of any firearm from pawn or on consignment by a person who does not own the firearm.   Major dislikes: `(a)(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this chapter shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law-- `               (B) any of the person's property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.   (example) you buy a rifle at the gun store drive it home store it in your safe and post it online for resale.  Under this provision the fed could confiscate your car home safe and computer.  My real big issue here is the irrespective of state law part. 

Looks fun but i would have thought they would do a steering wheel mounted firing actuater rather than a button down by the shifter

You dont always have to decrimp the military brass.  the majority of the time the rimer will slide in without removing them.  A good way to tell is by using your decapping die.  set your decapping die so that it just barely pushes out the primer on a non crimped round.  Then try it with some of the crimped brass.  The crimps that are more cosmetic than functional will allow the primer to be removed.  The brass that actually has strong crimps will still hold on to the primer.  you can use this method to sort out the brass that you can immediately use without swaging the pocket.  For the ones that you actually need to remove the crimp you can do it by hand with a chamfer tool, although that is way more labor intensive than gettin a swager.  I know it doesnt directly answer your question but it may get you more reloadable brass while you wait for a pocket swager

How many people on here actually look up and read the legislation.  Just out of curiousity.   From my reading it bassically appears to change very few things, none of which i can see would make NY's laws applicable to TN.       The big change is changing the laws from only prohibiting sale to federally prohibited persons to include state prohibited persons.    SEC. 3. PUNISHING AND DETERRING STRAW PURCHASING OF FIREARMS.   (a) In General- Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:   `Sec. 932. Straw purchasing of firearms   `(a) Any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer) who knowingly purchases any firearm for, on behalf of, or with intent to transfer it to, any other person, if that firearm has moved in or otherwise affected interstate or foreign commerce, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years or both. For purposes of this section, the term `purchases' includes the receipt of any firearm from pawn or on consignment by a person who does not own the firearm.   `(b) Subsection (a) shall not apply to any firearm that is lawfully purchased by a person--   `(1) to be given as a bona fide gift to a recipient who provided no service or tangible thing of value to acquire the firearm, unless the person knows or has reason to believe such recipient is prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing, receiving, selling, shipping, transporting, transferring, or otherwise disposing of the firearm; or   `(2) to be given to a bona fide winner of an organized raffle, contest, or auction conducted in accordance with law and sponsored by a national, State, or local organization or association, unless the person knows or has reason to believe such recipient is prohibited by Federal, State, or local law from possessing, purchasing, receiving, selling, shipping, transporting, transferring, or otherwise disposing of the firearm.   `(c) If any violation of subsection (a) is committed knowing or with reasonable cause to believe that any firearm involved will be used to commit a crime of violence, the person shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not more than 30 years.   `Sec. 933. Forfeiture and fines   `(a)(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this chapter shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law--   `(A) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and   `(B) any of the person's property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.   `(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a person convicted of a violation of this chapter, shall order, in addition to any other sentence imposed pursuant to this chapter, that the person forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).   `(b) A defendant who derives profits or other proceeds from an offense under this chapter may be fined not more than the greater of--   `(1) the fine otherwise authorized by this part; and   `(2) the amount equal to twice the gross profits or other proceeds of the offense under this chapter.'.   (b) Title III Authorization- Section 2516(1)(n) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `and 924(n)' and inserting `, 924, and 932'.   (c) Racketeering Amendment- Section 1961(1)(B) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following: `section 932 (relating to trafficking in firearms),'.   (d) Money Laundering Amendment- Section 1956(c)(7)(D) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `section 924(n)' and inserting `sections 924(n) and 932'.   (e) Directive to Sentencing Commission- Pursuant to its authority under section 994 of title 28, United States Code, and in accordance with this section, the United States Sentencing Commission shall review and amend its guidelines and policy statements to ensure that persons convicted of an offense under section 932 of title 18, United States Code and other offenses applicable to the straw purchases of firearms are subject to increased penalties in comparison to those currently provided by the guidelines and policy statements for such straw purchasing offenses. In carrying out this subsection, the Commission shall ensure that the sentencing guidelines and policy statements reflect Congress' intent that the applicable guideline penalties be increased and the guidelines and policy statements reflect the extremely serious nature of the offenses described in the amendment made by subsection (a), the incidence of such offenses, and the need for an effective deterrent and appropriate punishment to prevent such offenses.   (f) Technical and Conforming Amendment- The table of sections of chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:   `932. Straw purchasing of firearms.   `933. Forfeiture and fines.'.   SEC. 4. AMENDMENTS TO SECTION 922(a)(6).   Section 922(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:   `For purposes of paragraph (6), in addition to the eligibility of a person to ship, transport, receive, or possess any firearm or ammunition, information concerning the identity, age, place of residence (to include address), and citizenship or immigration status of a person shall be considered material to the lawfulness of the sale or other disposition of a firearm or ammunition'.   SEC. 5. AMENDMENTS TO SECTION 922(d).   Section 922(d) of title 18, United States Code, is amended--   (1) in paragraph (8), by striking `or' at the end;   (2) in paragraph (9), by striking the period at the end and inserting `;'; and   (3) by striking the matter following paragraph (9) and inserting the following:   `(10) is prohibited by State or local law from possessing, receiving, selling, shipping, transporting, transferring, or otherwise disposing of the firearm or ammunition;   `(11) intends to sell or otherwise dispose of the firearm or ammunition to a person described in any of paragraphs (1) through (10); or   `(12) intends to sell or otherwise dispose of the firearm or ammunition in furtherance of a crime of violence or drug trafficking offense or to export the firearm or ammunition in violation of law.   This subsection shall not apply with respect to the sale or disposition of a firearm or ammunition to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector who pursuant to subsection (b) of section 925 is not precluded from dealing in firearms or ammunition, or to a person who has been granted relief from disabilities pursuant to subsection (c) of section 925.'.   SEC. 6. AMENDMENTS TO SECTION 924(h).   Section 924 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking subsection (h) and inserting the following:   `(h)(1) Whoever knowingly receives or transfers a firearm or ammunition, or attempts or conspires to do so, knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such firearm or ammunition will be used to commit a crime of violence (as defined in subsection (c)(3)), a drug trafficking crime (as defined in subsection (c)(2)), or a crime under the Arms Export Control Act (22 U.S.C. 2751 et seq.), the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.), the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act (21 U.S.C. 1901 et seq.), or section 212(a)(2)(C) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(2)(C)) shall be imprisoned not more than 30 years, fined in accordance with this title, or both.   `(2) No term of imprisonment imposed on a person under this subsection shall run concurrently with any term of imprisonment imposed on the person under section 932.'.   SEC. 7. AMENDMENTS TO SECTION 924(k).   Section 924 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking subsection (k) and inserting the following:   `(k)(1) A person who, with intent to engage in or to promote conduct that--   `(A) is punishable under the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 801 et seq.), the Controlled Substances Import and Export Act (21 U.S.C. 951 et seq.), or chapter 705 of title 46;   `(B) violates any law of a State relating to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act, 21 U.S.C. 802); or   `(C) constitutes a crime of violence (as defined in subsection (c)(3)),   smuggles or knowingly brings into the United States, a firearm or ammunition, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, fined under this title, or both.   `(2) A person who, with intent to engage in or to promote conduct that--   `(A) would be punishable under the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 801 et seq.), the Controlled Substances Import and Export Act (21 U.S.C. 951 et seq.), or chapter 705 of title 46, if the conduct had occurred within the United States; or   `(B) would constitute a crime of violence (as defined in subsection (c)(3)) for which the person may be prosecuted in a court of the United States, if the conduct had occurred within the United States,   smuggles or knowingly takes out of the United States, a firearm or ammunition, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, fined under this title, or both.'.  

I know this has been posted on a lot of other forums and isnt new  news, but i did not see it posted here.  I was reading up on some other stuff and atumbled on something i thought worth noting.  In January LEOSA was ammended to include military and civilian police under the DOD.   I know the topic was discussed in dept on several forums back in 2011 after the last amendment mentioned officers of the executive branch.  the 2013 change specifically adds the word apprehend.      The concern at this point would be what satisfies the credentials requirement.  Previously there were a couple of coastguardsment that used LEOSA as a defense and it was determined that their CAC Icommon Access Card (Military ID) met the requirement.  Unfortunately military ID's do not include your MOS(job).      I am not encouraging any MP's active or retired to carry under this statute just an effort to keep others informed.   

I dont see the agents actions as evil, maybe slightly incompitent, but as you can see in the photo's its not as easy to tell as may assume would assume it t be.  And the ATF didnt seize them initially it was CBP that seized them then handed them over to the ATF.

The other issue would be how easily they could be converted to accept actual semi auto FCG.  It looks like it shold accept a drop in FCG.  And the block where the bolt would normally go is removable.  It is the portion of the airsoft gun used to release gas from the magazine.    As far as the ATF is concerned it usually comes down to how much time and skill is necessary to convert it into a working receiver.  hence why you can buy a 80 percent receiver through the mail but not one that is closer to being a finished product.  I'm not sure exactly how much work it would take to make it functioning but i think it would be fairly minimal.    I just sent of an email to BATFE asking about the legalities of using one to make a functional lower sans the auto sear.  My only concern really is the hole being pre drilled for the auto sear.  If they say its GTG im gonna order one of the WE stripped lowers just to see how difficult it would be.  the WE stripped lowers are only 60 and may be suitable enough for something like a dedicated 22

http://www.blowbackarmory.net/product_p/parts_we_m4_105.htm   We airsoft lower.  Noticably thinner walls and  gap by where the bolt catch goes but it looks faily close to me.  If it wasnt a recipe for getting arrested, at 60 bucks for the stripped lower id give it a try.  I wonder about the legalities of making it functional as it is legal to manufacture your own firearm, may have to send off an email to ask the ATF if i filled in the hole for the auto sear if it would be legal to make it functional.

I did a little more digging on the particular model of arisoft gun as far as what would be required to make it a functional lower.  Depending on the model seized (they seized 2 differed WE model airsoft guns).  At least one of the two confiscated is nearly identicle to a 3 hole M16 lower.  A hole would nead to be drilled to keep the beffer retaining pin/spring.  Some light sanding would need to be done to fit the fire control group.  And if im looking at the photos right one of the models only has one of the pin holes drilled for the FCG.  The other doesnt appear to be drilled out but it does have a circular score mark to make it look like a pin marking exactly where to drill.   It's all stuff thet the majority of people on this forum could probably do in their living room with a dremel during walking dead commercial breaks.

When this oriinally happened alot of "experts" called it obsurd.  Then they actually got there hands on that model of airsoft gun and concluded that all that was neaded to convert the airsoft lower receiver to accept a real fire control group IIRC was some light sanding.  The full auto claim was crap, but the reality is that some airsoft lowers are so very close in spec that it would not require any major machining to complete a functional lower.

http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/61789-dgu-on-e-knox-robbery/#entry922130

Not the most scientific, but it is still a valid demonstration.  Most peoples first runs shooting drills like this would be slower with gradual improvements in shooting speed and reloading speed througout the day. 

coyote urine works as a good natural deterrent. 

theres a possibility of discoloring the metal.  Some have had great results others not so much.  The best results i have seen used the fusion paste as well as a heat stop paste.  Apply the heat stop paste on the barrel apprx 1/8 of inch past where the FH stops and apply it to all byt the last 1/8 inch of the FH itself.  That way you are only exposig about 1/4 inch of the metal to the torches heat.   Edited to add:  Soldering also has the additional benifit of being easy to remove.  Vise torch and wrench are all thats needed.  It also prevents from having to drill a second spot in your barrel if you ever choose to replace the FH.

TMF Possibly if you used the cheap low temp solder.   ATF requires it to be high temp (1100 degree+) silver solder to meet the defnition of permanantly attached.