c.a.willard

For the most part I agree with you and im not one to typically overreact to proposed legislation.  My overall concern is that these laws get passed and although are typically challenged in court as to their constitutionality many of which make it up to the district court level and are upheld as constitutional.  This has a direct impact on all states within that district and an indirect impact on every other state.   I also can not agree with just letting California be California because there are people there who care just as much about their 2A rights as anyone on this forum bad laws are bad laws regardless of the state that they originate in and if we sit idly back and let it pass because of the state that it is in how long before it creeps it's way towards us right here in Tennessee.

I still don't think he should have been charged with a crime for it though.  The person was obviously making an attempt to illegally enter his home and apparently ignored verbal warnings that he was armed and willing to defend himself.  I think this vet made a conscious decision to use the weapon as a deterrent without having to take the life of the felon.  He may have been wrong by the absolute letter of the law, however that law wasn't written for these types of situations.

Several don't care just because its California.  But there are a lot of us that realize that California serves as a testing ground for the majority of gun control laws that propagate throughout the several states. Think of any restriction on firearms ownership in the U.S. and it most likely originated in California.

Heck i'd contend that my sister (now on her 4th or 5th marriage  I lost count)  has done far more to destroy the sanctity of marriage than any homosexual couple I have ever met.

Montgomery county shooting complex has a rifle range that goes out to 400 yards.  A little bit of a drive for you but not unreasonable

Sounds like its gonna be a pretty darn good trip.  I think i'm a little bit jealous.

most do not care if you find homosexuality repugnant. People do care when because of your personal feelings you exclude an entire group of people from participating as part of our society.  Why shouldn't homosexuals be outspoken about their rights being violated.  Why shouldn't homosexuals be outspoken about being excluded from a group that should have nothing to do with sex on the sole basis of their sexual orientation.  No one is forcing you to like it but you will have to put up with it because it is happening.      As it pertains to the BSA, the way I see it is that those opposed to this have 3 basic choices.  Fight to change it back which is your right to do, accept that it is happening whether you like it or not and move on, or form your own non secular scouting organization.    Lets not forget that the majority of the BSA voting membership approved this change

My wife chose a P-22 on her own.  She's shot all of my guns and can handle them fine she just likes the way it feels and the lack of recoil.  She started shooting a P-22 because we rented one a couple times while we at G&L and she liked that little rental gun more than any of mine so we ended up buying her one of her own her home defense gun though is my M&P 9 with a tac light on it.      One of my good friends wives just recently switched from a small light 380 to a full size 9mm because she felt the 380 was to snappy.  My buddy wasn't sure what to have her try and when I figured out that it was for a home defense gun I got him to have her try a couple of full size guns.  A heavier slide and springs can do as much to tame recoil as switching to a smaller caliber.  I've known several women that prefer the 45 ACP cartridge because of its particular type of recoil impulse     If I put myself in the shoes of the salesman though I can see why they steer them to guns that more women seem happy with.  

So Dave, just out of curiosity why are you emotionally invested in this case enough to make a trip to Florida for it.  If you do not feel like sharing please feel free to ignore my question.  Im not trying to be rude or anything just curious. 

To me it looks to close to really tell, especially with the shoot and see targets.  I was always taught that when it is to close to call, you score to the shooters benefit.

I'm still just trying to figure out how this is firearms related.

Decided we needed some family time away from the phone and computers, so I took the baby and the wife out to LBL today. Did some fishing at bards lake. Not to much biting on the bank where we were at other than blue gill. Most of them little ones but about a dozen or so keeper size but threw them all back. Today was more about making memories than catching fish but its always nice when you can do both. I know my little girl wont remember it but its a trip my wife and I will never forget. [url=http://s987.photobucket.com/user/cwillard1983/media/Paige_zpscf4f9885.jpg.html][/URL]

a top fed traditional pistol caliber this size would be absolutely amazing.  Since it's a blowback gun you wouldn't think that it would be to very difficult for FN to do. 

Ordering the DOJ to investigate the DOJ is very clever on his part.  Much like holder investigating the IRS debacle.  A pending possibly criminal investigation is enough justification that people involved can not be compelled to testify in front of congress. 

Some of you may remember that I mentioned in other threads that I ordered a PS90 way back in late Nov beginning of Dec (I don't remember the exact date anymore). There were a couple stores that had hem in stock when i ordered but none that did FN mil/le pricing she was only 800 dollars before tax and tics Got a voicemail yesterday and it had finally came in. Now for the real problem, where the heck do i find ammo for this thing right now. way back when i ordered it i realized that ammo would be more difficult to find for this than for my other firearms, but in this current market i don't even know where to start. I was hoping one of you guys or gals might be able to point the way to a local source or a trusted website that you use. I know I can find it on gun broker and armslist but we all know how those prices are. BTW for anyone who has ever wanted to shoot one of these consider this post an open invitation if you can find the rounds I'm free for a meet and shoot just about every weekend [URL=http://s987.photobucket.com/user/cwillard1983/media/PS90_zps66b16d9e.jpg.html][/URL]

This is what you get with a systematic disarming of a civilian population.  An increase in brazen attacks using edge weapons and a 20 minute wait for an armed police officer to show up.

yes,  very different than the US Marshalls service.  Although the US Marshall service does have a portion of it that security focused.  Specifically security for federal court buildings and they also handle the majority of the CSO program through contracting.   Marshalls do the following:  Judiciary security, witness security, prisoner transport, fugitive apprehension   FPS protects around 9,000 different federal buildings and properties.  Most of which are federal office buildings.          The FPS has been around for over 6 decades now, its just that you very rarely hear about them.  Partly because they are small and partly because it is rare for them to do things like in the OP. 

Id say that FPS is  good example of a reasonable size for their scope and authority.  I want to say they have only somewhere near 1,000 sworn officers for all the federal buildings and properties that they cover.  The majority of security is through contract security companies.  I do think that FPS probably needs to move back under GSA instead of being under DHS.  But that's because GSA is better set up to  handle all the contracting issues.  You cant really defund FPS as they do not get their funding through a line item budget.  They get their funding by charging a fee to the agencies whose buildings they protect.  

FPS is the agency that is overall responsible for the security and protection of certain federal properties and buildings.  Their sworn LE portion of FPS is fairly small, however they oversee several thousand security guard contractors.

IT was well outside the scope of that FPS officers authority to even attempt to conduct a traffic stop.  They have relatively limited powers outside of their scope of duties about the only time a FPS officer can do anything not related to the security of federal property is if they personally witness a violation of federal law or a felony offense. 

The three in one should be just as effective. CN Gas is weaker than CS gas it just has a longer effect.  Personally I don't think that for a defensive spray CS/CN even worth bothering with as its effects are greatly reduced with sources of fresh air.  I've been through several CS chambers and have been sprayed by OC multiple times.  For me id rather take the CS chamber any day of the week.  a few minutes of fresh air and your good to go the OC takes significantly longer to wear off also CS And CN both take more time to take effect than OC spray sometimes as much as 30 seconds, that being said both effect different people differently and you are able to fight through any of them.    The next thing to consider is at what range is they are most likely to use it.  The streams have a longer effective range apprx 20 feet depending on manufacturer but require batter aiming.  The cone mist provides for more area of coverage but its effective range is reduced to around 10-15 feet.    For someone who doesn't train on how to use it I would recommend a cone mist unit as they are much easier to get on to target.  As far as a good brand, My go to choice is Fox Labs.  They make some of the best OC products on the market. However their formula is geared to LE.  It has a fairly high SHU with a relatively low oil to dye ratio.  This results in an extremely effective spray that has a slightly shortened recovery time.  So that you don't have to spend an hour waiting for a person to calm down after being sprayed.  Recovery time from most of the fox labs stuff is around 20-30 minutes longer for some shorter for others     I know some of that is unsolicited advice, I just don't want to see people waste money on a defensive product that may not be very effective for their intended use.

They also make a version that does not require a tax stamp     http://store.commandarms.com/products/RONICG2.html

You mean the agency tasked to protect federal buildings (FPS) was outside of a federal building during a protest.  And what makes these guys storm troopers.  I can not see anything in the article you provided to show that they did anything other than stand there

Speaking of TN being on the high side for hunting and fishing, 41/2 more months and I can buy my daughter her lifetime sportsman license.  The way I figure it prices are only going to go up so if I get her the lifetime for her first birthday it will save her lots over her life.  If she ends up being more like her mom and not into that sort of thing i'm only out a couple hundred.  For those out there with young children or grandchildren it is definitely worth looking in to

My concern is more that they spent the time and money involved for a length federal investigation for something where the subject of the investigation obviously had no criminal intent.  Did he make a mistake yes, was it something that a professional hunter should have known, again id say yes.   But was it something so serious that warrants a Felony charge,  Hardly.