strickj

Wrong. The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that minors do have constitutional rights, e.g., freedom of speech. See the case of Tinker v. Des Moines where the free speech rights of junior high and high school students were upheld. Tinker v. Des Moines School District (1969)

Wrong. Here, boys were kicked out of school over dress. In the t-shirt thread, a girl was jailed over dress. Both are wrong for being punished. Here, people are upset because the dress included a flag. There, people are a-ok with it because they're offended by a word. Both are protected by the 1st. Both places are in violation of the constitution. (how many here hate the no carry in schools because of this?) It is a double standard.

Was she naked? Is being naked in public protected by the constitution? Being nude in public is against the law. Wearing a shirt with something written on it is not against the law.

I agree that judges should have control of a courtroom. However, judges should not have the right to jail someone over an opinion or for being offended when no laws have been broken.

What law did the shirt break? This isn't it... Unless her shirt caused a ruckus,etc , there was no impeding on justice.If a judge can jail someone over a shirt in the name of that, what's to stop a judge from jailing someone for being white\wearing pink shoe laces\being bald\being Christian\whatever, all in the name of "furtherance of justice"? Last I checked, this is still America, isn't it? Where n the Constitution does it give judges the right to jail someone over a dress? Where does it give a judge to disregard the 1st...or any other amendment?

You're the one that asked if "the Mexicans complained".

Depending on the depth of the engraving, you may be able to polish it out

So it would be fine for a judge to make up other laws just because,too? Maybe make a law saying Jewish people should be jailed? Maybe all 42 year old white guys should be jailed? I'm sorry, but our system was not set up for one person to have sole power to make laws as they see fit.

Ouch

Summer hats? How many would you like?

Not the same. If you shoot them and then rob\rape\whatever them, then you are no better then the scumbag. If we just start killing people in retaliation without trial, make videos of their torture, kill innocent civilians on their home land, then we would be no better then them. "an eye for an eye makes the world go blind"

Dam beavers

How is her shirt in violation of "Control, in furtherance of justice..."? It also states "and all other persons connected with a judicial proceeding". She was not connected to the judicial proceeding.

Ok, first of all, I'm not defending the school here. I'm just trying to figure out the double standard. That said... Because this is not a Gov forum. No, no Mexicans complained. Some American students of Mexican decent complained.(should be noted the students wearing the flag apparel were also of Mexican decent) How? Which amendment gives you the right not to hear a certain word? All the talk from folks on this board about people getting too offended too easily by stuff....and here we have people offended by a simple word. Makes perfect scene to me Says who? How is one little word responsible for that? Certain words(curse) being bad is about as silly of a 'moral' as you can get. Never understood why some words get selected out as being bad while others that mean the same thing are not. How is "*****" any worse then "vagina"?

Where does it say in that, that the court has an exemption from the 1st or a person may be jailed because of a judges opinion about dress?

Exactly! It's not of their concern if you have a problem with someone wanting to take a peak at your naughty bits.

What's the difference? The person jailed is still getting jailed by someone of authority for nothing illegal. The places you gave examples of are voluntary entered (some on private property where rights from the Gov need not apply) Where does it say that?I'll help you out here by quoting it in it's entirety so all you have to do is copy and paste the part needing pointing out to me

That was me that said that and I said nothing of the such Someone said they [add terrorist torture on camera stuff here] and we should do the same. I said, by doing what they do, makes us no different then those we are trying protect ourselves from. I never said executing someone makes us them.

You must not read many of my post It should not be right for a judge to lock someone up based on a personal opinion about dress.Actually, no judge should have power to lock someone up based on a personal opinion on anything that is not against the law. Would it be ok for a bald judge to lock someone up with a full head of hair because he was offended? Would it be ok for a cop to jail someone over a shirt?

Judges should not have the power to punish someone based on appearance. judges should only have the power to punish people for crimes. If you are stupid enough to get a 'tude with a judge, then that judge should throw the book at them for the crime that are there to defend against. Last I checked, it's not illegal to get an attitude with anyone or to wear a certain shirt. Doesn't matter if that attitude is towards a judge or anybody else.

I don't like the "in your face" gays, either. But I also don't like the in your face [whatever] aswell. Also agree on the "let me in because I'm [whatever]". My point was, what someone does in private should have no affect on his admittance to serve this country. This post and the previous post, when I quoted them, was lit up like a Christmas tree from the Firefox spell checker. Has no bearing on the topic at hand....was just razzing you a bit

Nope, I see the differences. I also see that both shirts caused someone to be offended. This is America. People should not be getting jailed, nor kicked out of school over something covered under the First Amendment. There is no exclusion for the word *****

I'm truthfully suprised that the tinfoil hat brigade hasn't jumped on this. If someone can be locked up over the word ***** on a shirt, what's stopping "them" from locking up people with other words on shirts. Maybe lock up folks with the word "Conservative" on their shirts...

I can eat bout anything on a hot dog. The other day, I had bread, deli American, pickle, lettuce, tomato and spicy mustard in the fridge, but no sandwich meat. I also had hot dogs but no buns or chili. My hunger ever so growing, my creativeness never so coy, it seemed a match made in an astute heaven. Expectations so low, hunger so high, yet the desire of grumble still so ostentatious. One piece of bread smeared with the spicy mustard, layered with the deli American, pickle, lettuce, and mator', folded with a cold-uncooked hot dog in the center. The new "hot dog sandwich" was created.