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Yeah, the 1851, 1860, 1861 and the 1858 are all black powder. There are conversion cylinders for them to shoot cowboy loads though, which are still black powder, just a cartridge of it. If you are wanting a cartridge conversion, you are into the $500+ range. Uberti does make those, however all modern firearms laws apply. You have have a BP pistol shipped to your door. BP is a lot of fun. That is half the excitement of it. They are inexpensive, and the learning curve isn't as bad as one would think. For god's sake, Yankees won The War of Northern Aggression with these, they can't be hard to use...

I was gonna suggest a trap. The other option would be a .22 Short out of a rifle, the long barrel, indoors and I almost promise that someone standing at your front door wouldn't hear it.

It is not unusual to buy a base model plane jane Pietta from Cabela's for under two bills. I haven't seen anyone come close to that. I recently got rid of my 1858s, but I would love to get back into them. That was why I didn't hesitate to sell them, someone wanted them more than I did, and they are rather easy to find cheap at Cabela's.

I have bought several Pietta's from Cabela's. To be honest, their prices are pretty hard to beat, even used. Get a steel frame if you intend to shoot it, brass is pretty, but they stretch and aren't as strong. I have had a few 1858 Remington Beals and I thoroughly enjoyed them.

I shoot a lot of holes in paper. I like it and I have fun doing it. However recently I have been thinking of trying some shooting sports. I live in Knoxville and have zero experience shooting anything other than paper. What is available locally and how would one get started? I am aware there are several different forms of competitions, and to be honest, I have no idea what is involved in the different forms. I plan on taking a carbine course this coming year, but I would also like to try getting into at least one shooting sport. Any advice?

I learned something new today.

I had a good time today. I made it back up around noon as it was winding down. OS decided to head home, something about being a crabby old man if I remember correctly. BBS and I stayed and threw some lead down range and cursed our cheap scopes. However I did discover something gratifying, it IS my scope. The reticles won't move, however once I realized they were high to the left (meaning I was grouping low to the right, I adjusted and made a bunch of tight little holes right in the bullseye. So I need a new scope. I also did my best to convert another person to the dark side, and preached the kool-aid that come from being a Glock owner. I had a great time, and hope to do it again, and maybe the next time I will camp too, instead of going home to my nice warm bed.

Only their hammer forged barrels are, or at least, they are the only ones they list as being made by FN. If they go through the trouble of listing it for the hammer forged, but not the regular CMV, I would assume it is only the hammer forged that are made by FN. Just my thought. I am paying attention to all of these threads as well, as I haven't ordered my uppers yet. However, I am heavily leaning toward this one.

According to their website, the SGL series, which I have owned, is re-manufactured in Las Vegas. The SLR Series are remanufactured Bulgarian rifles. However, you are correct in that the SA series, which is what is in question here, is in fact made in the USA. This is apparently a new venture for them, as for the last several years all they have done is created top notch conversions.

About that fire... Was good meeting you guys. Seems my wife has hijacked me for shopping tomorrow. I may be late getting back up there.

Awesome, I know where I am going then. I mean, my topographical map and compass will get me there. Are we just gonna park at the top, where the building is?

Arsenal converts Siagas. However, they do full conversions including the handguards. They don't actually produce the guns, they import, convert and finish them. Their guns are very high quality.

Is that the old Paintball place, where they had the Halloween Haunted Forest or such this year?

Alright, so this is a go? What is the address, so I can get out my topographical map and compass and create a route. Assuming that I know Chapman HWY very well and just driving it would be cheating. I am not sure what time I will be there tomorrow, I guess I could stop by for a minute or two tonight after work, but I won't be able to be out there in the morning until my wife is home from work. She is uncomfortable with my daughter going. However, I may overrule that since it has come to light that my car can make the trek. Chaos sits very, very low. I have less than two inches of clearance at the lowest points. I don't know what I can contribute, other than a thirst for knowledge and a mind for logistics. But if there are guns there, I can bring more.

I had an Arsenal SGL21-66. It was a superb rifle. I bought it at a steal and made my money back off it in a matter of weeks. And I paid a bit more than what you are saying you saw one priced at.

My daughter started kindergarten this year. The say the pledge every day. There are several things that I have been impressed with about her school so far. The pledge being one. The other being that she was taught about the flag, and what it represents. The most impressive thing was a coloring book they gave her. It had an eagle in it. The coloring book told a story of a group of kids at Grandma's House. They went into the attic and found a rifle. The anthropomorphic eagle arrives and tells the children not to panic, not to touch it, and just go tell Grandma what they found. The mantra was simple 'don't panic, don't touch it, and tell an adult.' There is another thread on here about unloading your guns and locking them up when you are home. An unloaded gun is a useless gun. I keep two guns loaded in my home. My carry gun and my home defense shotgun. These guns are put up in accessible out of sight places. When my carry gun is not on my hip, it is nestled in it's little home. My daughter has been raised around guns. There was no mystifying secret about them. Since she was a toddler I would tell her in no uncertain terms "This is a gun. It is dangerous, you don't touch it unless Daddy is with you." This has paid off, and at five, she has no major fascination over seeing a gun. It is yet another object that she knows she is not to touch or mess with. Now if only I could get her to stop announcing to the world "Daddy, your gun is showing!" when I get out of the car...

That is pretty neat.

They have shipped. I am so excited.

I am currently doing the research and parts ordering to build my own. I am awaiting two lowers to be transferred, then I will begin. There are tutorials on Youtube, Brownells and Midway both have walk-through instructions. Pick your poison, video, pictures, books etc... I am only doing it halfway though, I will by assembling my lower and attaching a complete upper. I am gleaning all the knowledge I can from the minds here, and threads like this. Dolomite knows his stuff. I hung out with him one day and shot a few of his guns. If he gives advice, I suggest soaking it up. His experience is hands on, not read or watched. There are makers out there that will sell and entire kit, right now I am going with all Palmetto State Armory stuff. Their specs are the same as all the big names, and their reputation is getting out there as well, just like the big names. Right now the talk is all about Bravo Company, Spikes, Palmetto State Armory, and then Colt. For the price, I don't think PSA can be beat. It is feasible to assemble a high quality rifle for under $1000. The benefit of assembling your own is the ability to pick what suits you. Even if you buy an assembled lower (BCM has some blem lowers that are very reasonable) you are still saving after purchasing an upper to pin on.

I have a question that might seem silly... What is the state of the driveway/pulloff to this event? One would of course assume that for a survival preparation meetup, we should all be driving our great big jacked up four wheel drive vehicles. However, my wife will have mine that morning and I will be driving my slammed to the ground car that has little to no clearance.

Oddly enough that article, and the couple attached to it, make some sense.

With no doubt. I try not to judge a book by it's cover, but if a person obviously looks like a criminal, or otherwise makes me think he is a creep, I wouldn't sell to him.

No. That is a straw purchase and is illegal. The only legal way to do this is to have the gun transferred in Florida. Either give him the money, or buy it, and ship it to an FFL in Florida to transfer to him.

Wal-Mart to a degree pays more than minimum wage last time I checked, paying competitive rates for the going unskilled labor. Same and any box store. Same as any business owner. You don't make money over paying your employees. Any store selling guns will have to abide by the same rules. Wal-Mart, Gander Mountain, Academy, Bass Pro... I bet they all pay near the same as well. While many of us will talk romantically about supporting the little guy, I doubt any of us are going to go pay double for the same product just because of better service. I am excited to see Wal-Mart selling handguns again. I may buy from them, if they have a good price on something I want. Wal-Mart may be the root of all evil, but they are the largest chain market in the United States, as such, they set trends to a degree, and they are watched closely. People will take notice. Responsible law abiding citizens that aren't aware you can own a military style gun will see that not only can you, but you can buy one at Wal-Mart. Thus broadening the horizon and bringing more gun owners to the fold.

Hell I am a full grown adult and I love shooting my Heritage Rough Riders. Being cheap on ammo they are a blast. The thing that sticks out to me, if the gun is too heavy for him to hold for more than a few seconds, how is he going to handle any amount of recoil?