monkeylizard

A normal model should come with 2. A deluxe/enthusiast model should come with 3 or 4. (Sig Mastershop guns, S&W Performance Center guns, etc.) A value model should come with 1. (Kahr CM9, S&W SDxVE, etc)

I've stopped in at Royal a few times for accessories and ammo. I've been happy with their prices, selection, and haven't been disappointed in the service. Plus the facility itself is super nice. I did have to wait a few minutes to get some SD ammo, but it wasn't for more than about 5 minutes.   That said, if they are reading TGO, one piece of advice might be to have someone at the register for non-gun purchases. They have a ton of ammo, gear, and accessories. Buying that stuff is more like a regular shopping experience. I want to fill up my basket and go to the cashier and be on my way. I don't really need a personal attendant like when purchasing a firearm. But if I have to wait for a staff member to finish with a firearm sale, that does kind of slow down an otherwise straight-forward transaction.

  So a Taurus Curve, then?  :D

To be clear.....I'm not defending burglars. I'm more interested in the homeowner not doing 20 years in Riverbend because the state couldn't make a decent training video for an HCP class or they got bad info from the web.

Yes, they do. I suspect the minimum requirement is to show the videos. I highly doubt the video expressly says "If there's a person in your house uninvited, you can shoot them, no questions asked." But a good instructor will recognize that the video can leave that impression and will work to correct that possible (and likely) misconception. I haven't seen the video in a long time, so I can't really speak to the specifics in whatever is being used today in classes.

  Then that's wrong. The HCP material is generally out of date and poorly produced to begin with, unless they've made new stuff since I took my class. A good instructor will show the video as required, but also correct the common misconceptions that those lousy videos can give.

  Sure there is. Ahmed runs a news-stand in Columbia, MO where he also sells pre-paid phones. He was in Wally World picking up some chicken, long-underwear, and a tire iron (because you know....it's Wal-Mart) and noticed they have a killer deal on prepaid phones. I'm talking 20% below his own costs. Why? Who knows. Maybe Wally is discontinuing that model. Maybe some bean counter in Benton wants to clear out that 18" of shelf space. Either way, Ahmed just stumbled onto a gold mine. He knows he can make a big profit on each one at his news stand. So he buys all they have.   Next thing he does is call his brother, Mahmud who runs a news stand in Saint Louis (hey...it's the family business) to tell him to check his local Wal-Mart. He does, and finds 40 in stock there at the same low low price so he buys them all. Meanwhile, Ahmed drove 15 miles away to another Wal-Mart and picks up all they have. When he gets home, he hops on the ImmigrantsRunningSmallBusinesses.com forum and shares the tale of his good fortune. Some other guys who also run businesses that sell repaid phones run out and clear out their Wal-Mart stores. Things are looking great...then Homeland Security shows up.         Now....re-read that story but change the names to Ed and Frank, the website to TGO, and change it from cell-phones to that dirt-cheap Perfecta .308 and 9mm we were jizzng in our pants about back in May. Then tell me you feel the same way.   I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm just saying that I can see how this could have been completely legitimate. Was it? I have no idea.

  Each incident would be unique and have its own factors. I wouldn't go so far as to say that it would "prove" that no imminent threat to life existed, but it certainly wouldn't look good for the homeowner. Other factors could come in to play such as if the burglar was turning away to reach for something.     ETA - crosspost

Sudafed is used to make you well (good) or it can be used to make crystal meth (bad). Since there's no good way to know what a buyer is going to do with their pseudo, a law was passed to limit the amount available w/o a prescription with an intent to cut back on the supply available for meth production while still letting law abiding people kick their colds. Cell phones can be used for calling your mom on her birthday (good) or for detonating a bomb in a playground (bad). I suppose the point is that a law should be passed to make purchasing too many phones illegal? Or that it would be idiotic to pass a law like that? I'm not sure.

Unless that presumption of fear of a threat to life can be proven to have not existed.   It's why you can't capture someone in your home, tie them up, and execute them. A person in your home is not a carte blanche pass to do with them as you please. You're simply presumed to have been in fear of your life. But the law says the facts can prove otherwise.   And no....your mileage won't vary. That's what the law says. That's how the cops will see it. That's how the DA will see it. That's how the judge will see it.

  It's TCA 39-17-1431 as I posted above.   As for the second statement.....I'm with you.

  Yes, but I don't have any desire to try to hunt down Missouri's annotated code. Many states now have a law equal to or very similar to TN's regarding pseudo. I don't know if MO does or not.

  I wasn't expressing my opinion on the matter. That's what the law in TN says. Disagree at your own peril.

  Maybe. Sometimes Wally sells stuff cheaper than a small business can get it from their distributors.

  TCA 39-17-431  

He probably left his CCW sash at home. He didn't want the attention that night, I guess.

    +1 Internets to you!

Did you find that at Academy?   :hiding:                     Sorry Lumber_Jack...it was too easy and I couldn't resist the temptation.  :D

  Has someone started making something chambered in .38 S&W again?

  Did my 5.11 pants with 37 pockets, fishing vest, and GSSF hat give me away?

Maybe they were just Christmas shopping and have a big family.... :popcorn:

Thanks. You would think the Ruger website might say so right on the product page (or at least the spec sheet) and not bury it in a manual almost nobody reads. It's not like the .327 Fed Magnum is some super common round that everyone should know about. Even the .357/.38 thing is only well known amongst shooters, but I noticed that Ruger doesn't have that on their spec sheet for the .357 LCR either.   Compare that to the nice way S&W shows their specs. No reason to make it hard to find. Bad web-design, IMO.

Care to enlighten us? What else can it shoot? The Ruger website doesn't say anything that I could find.

  I heard it on NPR last night or this morning. In fairness, it could have been the local WPLN portion of the news break. I was navigating traffic and not paying super close attention to the radio.

Update: I called today for a status. They hope to have the ranges open by the beginning of January.   I ran into one of the workers at Wendy's in October and he said they were shooting for late November to mid December, so it keeps moving. He said the delays were partly because of the usual construction/permit issues, but also because the owners keep adding/changing the plans to make it better. I sure hope it's worth waiting for. I need a place to shoot that's not a 45-60 minute drive each way. Right now they could probably open up with some piles of dirt and broken wood pallets out back and have people lined up out the door.