monkeylizard

You know how they always say "but it's a dry heat" about Arizona? They never say that about Tennessee. <<former Tucsonian here>>

Oops...So are you now....and me as well.

Right. I see trucks around town for Travis Electric, Harris Electric, and of course Lee Company. Try any of them and see if they'll donate to the cause.

you could stop by the NES facility off of Centennial Blvd. Ask the gate guard about it. He could see if they'll give you any. Calling the main NES Cust Svc. number will get you nowhere. NES service facility: 1200 63rd Avenue North, Nashville, TN

You said you like the XD and XDm, but didn't like the lighter weight of the Glock. Glocks are a little bit lighter than a comparable XD, but not so much that I can tell a lot of difference on the range. If you were shooting a 9mm or .45 XD and comparing that to a .40 Glock, the difference in felt recoil is probably more in the round than the weight of the gun. The .40 is considered by some to be a snappy round. I have an XD in .40 and while I'm plenty accurate with it, it does produce more felt recoil than a similar Glock in .45 or in 9mm. My wife shoots 9mm and can handle .45, but hates shooting the .40. You may want to give Glock another chance in a different caliber before striking it off your list. If it's going to serve double duty as a range gun and a carry gun, then the pocket guns like Ruger's LCP or the Kel-Tec P3AT should be off the list. They're hard on most people's hands after a few magazines. Your own size makes a difference too. If you're 5'3" and 98lbs soaking wet, a full-sized 1911 will be a challenge, but if you're built like The Big Show, it will all but disappear. Look at both single-stack and double-stack guns. Double-stacks will hold more rounds, while single-stacks are thinner and easier to conceal. You'll also need to decide if a thumb safety is important to you or not. Glocks and XDs don't have them. Smith M&Ps have them as an option. 1911s have them. I chose the XD for my first carry gun over a Glock mostly due to the grip-safety on the XD. It's now a nightstand gun and I carry something with no external safeties. It's a matter of what you're comfortable with. A model made in multiple calibers will hold more rounds in the 9mm model, followed by .40, then .45 with the fewest. You have to decide between more holes or bigger holes in the bad guy.

Don't forget that the homelessness is cured by engaging in said capitalism by selling newspapers . . . /sarc /irony

Don't feel bad. I would have never noticed the parking lot entrance signs if someone on here hadn't mentioned them. I did notice the doors though, and that none of the dept. store entrances are posted. But the parking lot osts make all that moot anyway.

Wow...I'd like a copy of that PM.

Maybe. I seem to recall reading an AG opinion on the matter that you may have that backwards. The building doesn't cease to be a church and become a school, rather it is a school all the time, including when it's used solely as a church. I may be mis-rembering that though. I'm pretty sure that the school no-no only applies if it's a school certified by the state for elementary or higher. If it's a pre-school, it's all good. As for carrying in church, I always do. I used to do some ride-alongs with some USAF Security Police officers when I was in Civil Air Patrol. They sponsored our cadet unit. Anyway, I remember riding with a K-9 unit and him telling me that the domestic disputes are their worst calls, because they never know what they're going to walk in to. Is it a simple screaming match, or is someone in a murderous rage? I figure that in my life, I'm most likely to get caught up in someone else's domestic dispute at work or at church. A marriage goes bad and one party blames the church that either "stole my wife/husband" or "failed to save my marriage." It happened at the church my wife grew up in. A guy decided that if he couldn't have his wife, then no one would. Killed her, then himself. Nothing could have stopped that, but if he had decided to shoot the place up before offing himself, then maybe there's time to react and try to stop it.

BrasilNuts plus bkelm18 has it right. After that limited list of "always no-go places", any property that is properly posted is also off limits. Churches, restaurants with alcohol, etc. still have to post if they want to. Properly posted means a gunbuster or text with specific language that you'll see in the law linked below. Some parking lots are posted. That makes them off-limits too. It doesn't have to be the building entrance itself You may see some old signage in some restaurants stating it's a felony to carry a firearm where alcohol is served. Those are old signs. Ignore them. The same goes for "no firearms" signs at the entrance to some state parks. The parks say they don't have the money to replace all their signs, so they were allowed to stay. They will be updated once they need to be replaced. The current TN laws can be found here. Drill down to 39-17-1359 for the posting information. http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/tncode/

It's probably more accurate to say it was the first bad decision their frineds knew about. Fine, upstanding, intelligent, good people don't just up and decide to knock off a convenience store and beat the clerk with guns as their first foray into bad decision making.

I have used H&K for some things. I really like them. It's owned/operated by a family from Korea. Everyone I've dealt with there is honest, hard working, and takes pride in their work. 361-8455 I also hear good things about Tim Leeper roofing.

....stupid TN gun laws....Yeah, you're right. I forgot about the law that fixes this law, but only some of the time.

This. Technically, you'd have to stop off the property, unload and separate, then drive onto the property. After church, you'd have to drive off property, reload, then good to go. This law that by some accounts was meant to allow parents with HCPs to drive on property to pickup/dropoff their kids so long as they didn't handle the firearm on property, creates one of the most accident-prone series of events one can image. All for the want of those little words "with intent to go armed."

I agree with OS. I had forgotten about those other exceptions. An HCP is the best route to go if at all possible. It clears up a lot of these little details, even if you never carry in public. With an HCP, you're good to go with pretty much any configuration of ammo/mags/firearms as long as no round is in the chamber of a long gun while being transported.

Sorry, but the mags have to be unloaded. TCA 39-17-1301 has the definitions. Specifically, para. 18 states: (18) "Unloaded" means the rifle, shotgun or handgun does not have ammunition in the chamber, cylinder, clip or magazine, and no clip or magazine is in the immediate vicinity of the weapon.

I'm not sure "interesting" is the right word.

That sounds like it should be a prison slogan.

Then you'd better put a perental lock on http://www.youtube.com and don't give yourself the password.

3:25 mark..... Translation: "Your honor, I think I just incriminated myself...." "Oops....I did it again at 5:50" The spin comes in at 10:25 for those interested.....this is so bad. I want my 12 minutes back.

I'm guessing that the people who had a house built with a drawbridge and moving concrete slabs thought enough to put a well head inside and a genny in the basement. It may also have solar cells on that large flat roof. Firing ports would have been a good idea, or at least a crenelated roof edge.

Off the OP topic, but since we're on it, schools are off-limits for off-duty LEOs too, unless the principal (or next available adminitsrtaor) is informed upon arrival. 39-17-1350(c )(1)

I see at least 2 entrances though the page says there's just the one at the drawbridge. That first floor glass area has at least one sliding door and it's directly behind the weakest link....the rolling garage door. Not that those are all that easy to break into, but the nice thick concrete is better. Even if you don't count that because it's covered when in lock-down mode, there also appears to be a door in the back (last photo) in the center. That said, it's still awesome, even with the one year time warp http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/35236-zombie-proof-home/

Here's your tactical map. Nachos can be substituted for anything that might be available in your Wally's fast food/snack bar area. If it doesn't have any, add in a pack of jerky or something equally manly http://media.photobu...llyWorldMap.gif

This. Add in the local (Nashville) recent news reports about officers in Dickson county and in Monterey and they start to overshadow the postive encounters I've had with LEOs. What might I say or do quite innocently in the presence of an officer that would land me a trip to jail or worse? Is the cop at the table next to me at Subway one of the majority good guys, or one of these that end up in the news? Dickson http://www.wsmv.com/...o-shows-beating Monterey http://www.newschann...for-profit-case