monkeylizard

  Get the kind with a combination lock. I have the key one and it's a PITA.

Don't feel bad. None of that's in the article linked in the OP.

  This x 1,000. 39-17-1359 being repealed would be awesome. I'm not holding my breath with the Harwell-Ramsey-Haslam machine in place, but I thought the same thing about the parks bill and it passed. I'm not saying that a private business can't prohibit firearms, just that their private prohibition shouldn't carry the force of law with it. It should be no different than banning shirtless/shoeless people. It becomes trespassing if asked to leave and you don't, but no actual legal offense for being shirtless/shoeless/armed in the first place.

  FIFY!

  I don't think you understand how FIFY works on forums.

  FIFY :up:

^^^^^^ Truth!

  Not according to the law, they can't. The drinking has to have been done while in possession of the firearm and it must have been done "within the confines of an establishment open to the public where liquor, wine or other alcoholic beverages, as defined in § 57-3-101(a)(1)(A), or beer, as defined in § 57-6-102, are served for consumption on the premises" in order to have the HCP revoked. In other words, you can get drunk as a skunk at a bar without your handgun, then arm yourself. Or you can get drunk at home while armed. You'll be in violation of 39-17-1321 (a ), but that doesn't come with the revocation of an HCP attached as a penalty. You have to have been doing the drinking in an establishment as described above while armed to qualify for the HCP revocation prescribed in 39-17-21(c ).   Notice that "handgun" is used in part (a ). You could get as drunk as you want anywhere you want (unarmed), then arm up with a long gun and not be in violation of 39-17-1321. You may or may not be violating other laws about carrying a long gun, but it wouldn't be a violation of -1321.   Am I missing something?

Why don't you come over here and say that to my face!!!!! :rant: <knock> <knock> :bat: <<<That's Grand Torino :eek: :hiding:

You are correct, but the signs don't have to come down. They're just incorrect. They will be removed as maintenance requires it.

Yep. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/80000-cmmgwhy-oh-why-did-i-listen-to-outpost-armory/?p=1167307

  Were you in the left lane?

  I heard he got hit by a car and died.                             He was playin on the road again.

Me too. Still thinking about it....strongly.

  But the article said that even if the police could prove who fired the shots, the magistrate won't hand down a warrant. That means it's effectively not a criminal act regardless of what the municpal code says. That makes it sort of like the old ordinances in some TN towns that say a man has to walk in front of an automobile waving 2 red or orange flags if a woman is driving, to warn pedestrians and other drivers. It's still on the books in some places, but not enforced so it may as well not be there.

But apparently not criminally negligent in Davidson Co.

I've got my eye on the CMMG MK-47 Mutant. I don't know why, but I like it.   I have their metal .22LR conversion kit for the AR. I like it. If I keep it clean and oiled it works just fine.

This thread has been dormant for a year. If you have a problem with it, that's your fault. Don't expect TGO or the board software company to make things right. You should have brought it up sooner.

  Not charged criminally, perhaps, but there could still be a civil suit if the shooter could be found.

  That's incorrect. Metro Nashville-Davidson County is divided into two areas, Urban Services and General Services. It's 100% banned all the time outside of shooting ranges in the Urban Services district. In the urban services district, notice that airguns and paintball guns are included. The General Services district is OK during the daytime. While the ordinance allows lawful hunting in the urban services district, I don't know of anywhere in the urban services district where you can be far enough away from an occupied dwelling to not violate TWRA rules, so it's sort of a moot point. As a general guide, if the main streets have street lights and your trash gets picked up by Metro, you're probably in the urban services. There are maps available on the Metro Planning Commission's site if anyone cares that much.   Here's the Nashville municple code:  

What's on the bottom of the sawhorse where the rifle butts sit?

Yep. He speaks the truth.

The way I read section (c ), the revocation of the HCP only applies if the violation occurs in an establishment described in (b )( 1). Correct?           The sunglasses are caused by not adding a space after the "b" in parenthesis. So (b) needs to be written as (b ).   Or you can use the [ code ] tag around the whole copy of the law. That's how I got the b to show properly above. Start with [ code ] and end with [ /code ] without the spaces in between the brackets. It will then show as follows. Nothing you can do about the color coding though as the board software then thinks it's a computer code language and it's trying to color code keywords: 39-17-1321. Possession of handgun while under influence -- Penalty. (a) Notwithstanding whether a person has a permit issued pursuant to § 39-17-1315 or § 39-17-1351, it is an offense for a person to possess a handgun while under the influence of alcohol or any controlled substance or controlled substance analogue. (b) It is an offense for a person to possess a firearm if the person is both: (1) Within the confines of an establishment open to the public where liquor, wine or other alcoholic beverages, as defined in § 57-3-101(a)(1)(A), or beer, as defined in § 57-6-102, are served for consumption on the premises; and (2) Consuming any alcoholic beverage listed in subdivision (b)(1). (c) (1) A violation of this section is a Class A misdemeanor. (2) In addition to the punishment authorized by subdivision (c)(1), if the violation is of subsection (a), occurs in an establishment described in subdivision (b)(1), and the person has a handgun permit issued pursuant to § 39-17-1351, such permit shall be suspended in accordance with § 39-17-1352 for a period of three (3) years.  

This has come up on a few other threads lately. There's no BAC number for "under the influence" in regards to handguns. Read TCA 39-17-1321 for the actual law on handguns and alcohol/drugs. It doesn't say anything about .08, just "under the influence".

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