monkeylizard

We don't really know. Arenas and their ilk seem to fit in a hole in the law....maybe.   39-17-1311 is the parks carry law. The part that was repealed was section (e ) which allowed local governments to post them in accordance with 1311 to make them off limits to persons exempt under 1351 (aka HCP holders). So, 1311 no longer allows local governments to post their "public parks, playgrounds, civic centers and other public recreational buildings and grounds".   Seems straight forward, right?   Maybe, maybe not.   I think the case could be made that arenas and such could still be posted under 39-17-1359, which is the more general "gunbuster" law which is not limited to parks etc. the way 1311 is. 1359 section (f ) expressly says that it does not apply to certain locations and that those locations are covered under 1311. 1359's list of locations to which it does not apply are: "any public park, natural area, historic park, nature trail, campground, forest, greenway, waterway or other similar public place that is owned or operated by the state, a county, a municipality or instrumentality thereof".   See the difference? 1359(f ) could have been written to say that its defers to all locations covered by 1311, but it wasn't.   This leaves 2 questions regarding arenas, etc. Is if an arena, community center, stadium, etc. which is owned or operated by the government is a "similar place" to those others listed in 1359(f )? Does 1359 defer to 1311 for all locations listed in 1311 even though it has its own list of places to which it defers? If the answer to either "no" then they could be posted under 1359, even though they're excluded from posting under 1311. My personal opinion is that the answer to both is "no". We have no case law yet, so we really don't know for sure. A full repeal of 1359 would clear this all up quick, but I'm not holding my breath. It gets murkier when the facility in question is located entirely within a park's boundaries, like the new Ascend Amphitheater in Nashville which is completely inside and is a part of (not just surrounded by) Riverfront Park but has a no guns policy.   A zoo may be different as it's certainly closer to a park/nature trail than an arena. The fact that many are actually called "zoological parks" makes me lean towards zoos being in the "parks" category, but that's just my opinion.

  Except for the "kill list" and bleach, I think that describes the trunks of some TGOers.  :D

I have a Sawyer mini too. Easy to use and lasts a long time. That's my main filtration system with the Lifestraw as a backup. I also have a Steripen, but short of a crazy apocalypse where our rivers start to look like the Ganges, I shouldn't need it anywhere in the U.S.

I brought up Jeff because the 3-day work week was mentioned and I said it must be a gunsmith thing. I was basing that off the GnL website showing Jeff working Thurs-Sat, which Metal has since dispelled and said he'll correct on the website.

  It would never work because it would suck over there and they'd all be trying to move over on our side of the line. Kind of like the way it is now.

  You need to update your website, because it shows Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. http://gunsandleather.com/gunsmith/   It's good to know he's there Sunday and Monday, because I have something for him to work on and those other 3 days never seem to work out for me to get up there but Sundays usually do.

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That's what makes it murky. It may or may not be an aircraft. We're really in uncharted waters due to the sudden expansion in the numbers of these things. The FAA  didn't have to do much about hobbyists flying model airplanes around because they're limited in number, and as long as they stayed away from airfields, they weren't really anything to worry about.

A cheap, ugly, and reliable one.

  Maybe two laws. One is that it's illegal to jettison anything from an unapproved aircraft (the bullet)*. Two is that it's illegal to arm a civilian aircraft. It's murky though. The FAA hasn't officially come around to saying that drones are "aircraft", but they're certainly looking at what they want to do to regulate them.     *An example of an approved aircraft would be one licensed by the FAA for skydiving.

I keep one in my hiking pack. I need to grab a few more for the BOBs. Every review and lab test I've read say they work. They make a larger model for familiy/village use that has apprently been a god send for some places in the 3rd world.

The KMart lot is all but empty by the evening. You'll have no trouble parking it in there.

TCA 39-17-1359 needs to go. Period.

You don't even want to know what an oil change will cost you in a Land Rover.   I personally don't like the looks of the Toyota FJ Cruiser, but by all accounts I've heard, they're pretty bullet proof. No longer produced for the US market, but maybe you could find a low mileage used one, or one hiding on the back corner of a dealer's lot.   Me, I'll never buy another new car again (unless I win Powerball) and I'll never have another payment (whether I win Powerball or not). Too many good used ones out there with may low miles. I found one today that's a make/model I'm eying that's under 1 year old with 2,100 miles on it and it's going for 20% off the sticker, and they were/are selling at/above sticker new.

Rest easy. It can be in the car on school property, and (assuming he's not otherwise prohibited from having a firearm) he can have it in the car w/o an HCP. If they're going to another state, things will likely be a little different.   OK in car to pickup/drop off passengers. Notice that an HCP is not required.   OK to leave it in the car on school property with an HCP. Doesn't have to just be pickup/drop off   Carrying in car w/o permit is OK   ETA; TCA snippets.

The jury decided today that Holmes' (Aurora, CO movie shooter) crimes were serious enough for the death penalty. Strange coincidence for this to happen on the same day as that.

  http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/89502-gunman-opens-fire-in-lafayette-la-movie-theater/   You sir, are psychic.

  Brilliant!

By comparison, 1st degree burns in human skin begin at 118F, 2nd degree at 131F. Pain receptors overload and become numb at a temperature of 140F. Human tissue is destroyed more or less immediately at 162F.

And so it begins:   http://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-to-recruiters-treat-armed-citizens-as-security-threat-1.359134

My leafy greens (lettuce, spinach, kale, chard, etc.) and herbs all did well but nothing else has done well yet. I've collected a few small tomoatoes out of 4 plants*, 6 peppers out of 17 plants, and a few cucumbers before the stupid cucumber beetles and stink bugs killed them off. I've harvested 3 kohlrabi. they're doing OK. Gotta keep  'em sprayed with BT or the cutworms will eat them up.  2 small yellow squash and 0 zucchini yet out of 3 plants. 1 eggplant is about 3-4" long. That's it out of 2 plants. I planted okra later and it is coming on strong. I should get a good harvest of that in the next week.   *I tried 3 new things with tomatoes this year. 1 - They're all planted in 3.5 gal buckets to keep them from taking over whole areas of the garden and 2 - I started them from seeds collected from store-bought Campari tomatoes as those are a patented variety and the seeds aren't sold, and 3 - the soil mix is different than what's in my raised beds. It's 1/3 each of worm castings, mushroom compost, and lobster compost. Next year I'll go back to putting them in the ground and starting with solid stock from my local nursery. The stuff I get from there always grows bigger, faster, and better than the plants I get from Home Depot. More expensive, but better. For anyone in the Bellevue area, I've had excellent results with plants from Moore & Moore nursery on Hwy 100.

  Sometimes others have to point them out. :hiding:

He had an open slot on his rail, so something had to go there. Two VFGs just looked silly.

  "Incident to" is the more important part, IMO. Carrying a loaded firearm is not "incident to" the lawful activity of standing outside a recruiting station.   Then again, I don't see how it's "incident to" fishing or camping either.

I wonder if that's maybe a temporary move. He ordered Adjutant General Max Haston to look into all possibilities for securing the personnel and property of the Guard, including streamlining the process for arming them. I could see relocating the recruiters to the armories for a little while as a precaution. That would secure the people until they can all be properly trained and armed, and give time to harden any other non-armory locations like store fronts.