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I think the lack of respect and the distrust of LE came along about the same time officers quit "walking a beat". I don't mean physically walking but being assigned to a certain area and remaining in that area for months or years. That allowed officers to get to know those in his area and show he is approachable. These days officers rotate shifts and rotate zones so it makes it very, very hard for an officer to build a relationship with those in his zone. We do see officers that get out and mingle with the local kids but the vast majority of officers do not and prefer to sit in their vehicle with their windows rolled up. So I believe the mistrust started with the officers and it will take a change in the way the officers actually patrol to fix the problem, if it is fixable at all.

The litmus test for me when I am reading a post about something the LE has done is this. If the purpose of the post is to prove LE is bad, or it appears that way, then it does not need to be posted. Now I welcome intelligent discussion into the problems with LE but if the post is to prove we have bad officers then we do not need it. All professions have bad apples, and unfortunately LE does too, but LE is under and ever constant watchful eye of the public and often recorded for all the Monday morning quarterbacking. And that litmus test should apply to a lot of what gets posted to prevent the dark time in TGO's history where there was a cloud of negativity that lingered in every other post. Since the cleaning last year TGO is like the TGO I joined 5 years ago when everyone was helping out our fellow TGO family members. And despite what others may think I would rather be accused to being a little heavy handed with moderation than allow TGO to become a board filled with the negativity and the hate like a couple of years ago.   I will admit that I have been critical of LE, especially the bad ones, but that is in response to things I personally witnessed and become frustrated with. Everyone should be critical of bad officers, and departments, but it is also important to not allow yourself to become jaded into thinking all officers are bad because of a few. And I also realize that those officers that I am critical of do not make up the entire LE community.   One must also realize that officers are tasked with doing an impossible job without the equipment they need and often without being paid what they deserve for the job they are doing. I asked people often how much they would need to be paid to be spit upon, shot at, have speeding cars pass them within inches, fight complete strangers and see some of the most awful things the world has to offer. Most people I asked would say they could not be paid enough yet most officers are doing it for a lot less than most of us would work a regular job for. And this is why I believe some officers go overboard, they have become so frustrated because they want to do good but can't. And couple that on the job frustration with the likelihood they will become divorced and it is not hard to see why some act the way they do.   Is the LE community, as a whole, made up of thugs with a badge? Hardly, but when all the media wants is to sensationalize a story that is all we seem to see and sometimes it is hard to realize that for every bad officer there are thousands of good officers.     I do have one question. Why is it that, at least the department I was part of, fellow officers would try to protect those bad officers?  I have also personally witnessed good officers struggle with the decision to do the right thing because they know once they report a bad officer they will be labeled as a rat. And even after being reported I have seen bad officers be allowed to resign that should have been fired. I have even sat in on meetings where the administrators will give the bad officer a letter of recommendation if the officer agreed to resign without fighting it. I will also say that as a supervisor I did try to fire every officer that deserved to be fired only to be frustrated by an administration that would allow them to resign and go to another jurisdiction.

And here is a much more sturdy version for a bit more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fab-Defense-Universal-Aluminum-Picatinny-Rail-Scope-Mount-for-Pistol-Handgun-USM-/151470131787?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234452ca4b

And here is a CHEAP one to try to make sure you will like it before spending $100 on the UM product: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pistol-Handgun-Rail-Scope-Mount-Picatinny-Weaver-Base-Glock-Smith-Wesson-M-P-/171759436695?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27fda90397   This one doesn't have the QD but it should give you an idea if it is something you will like.

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And they WILL NOT sell to individuals. You must buy through a reseller. I think it sucks I have to pay shipping for a gun that is made so close.

  I wish there was a waiting period to become a resident of the state and an even longer waiting period to vote in local elections. I have noticed the same thing as well. I have talked to NY transplants and they are talking about using lawsuits to make Tennessee more like NYC. If they like NYC so much why not just move back?

Just because the retaining screw is included does not mean you HAVE to use it. The jam nut is more than enough to hold everything in place. You guys had me confused with the retaining screw. I never use it on mine and most of the ones I have installed never even had one. Nordic rails are the ones I use most and they do not have the retaining screw.

With that setup there is not any retaining screws. Only the tube and a "jam nut" to hold it in place.

If you want give me a call and I can talk you through it. I have installed at least 10 similar rails and if the last thing you do is tighten the ring things rarely line up.

The holes for the gas tube have nothing to do with the tube. The tube screws onto the nut. There is nothing wrong with the tube itself. You tighten the barrel nut until the gas tube hole lines THEN you screw the tube onto the nut and align it before tightening the locking ring. This happens all the time. The way I fix it is make sure the receiver is secure then barely tighten the nut with the tube slightly leaning to the ejection port side. Then either grab the tube, use s strap wrench or a vertical grip and twist the tube the right direction the last little bit. Matter of fact I do not use wrenches on that style of tube at all. The wrenches don't grab well enough.

Grease the rails, the barrel lugs and the end of the barrel. If it continues you can polish the breech face with some 2,000 grit sandpaper. Also check the extractor to make sure the bottom of the hook has a bevel to it.

I am getting ready to load some 1,500+ grain slugs into solid brass hulls. Should make for some fun times at the range.

No doubt this is in response to s minor rant from the other day. The Benefactor box had a nice HCP badge in it and someone took it out. Personally I feel it is borderline impersonating an officer to display a badge. To me it all depends on how they look and dress. An older, bearded guy that is overweight with coveralls will not be mistaken for an officer while young clean shaven man, that looks fit, dressed in 5.11 clothing with their pistol on their side and a HCP will easily be confused for an officer. Those that feel the need to wear a badge while wearing cop garb have crossed over that line IMHO. I seen a gentleman wearing a shoulder holster the other day. My wife and I had a bit of a chuckle over it but in the end I will support his right even though it is not something I would do. I will say I do not like being around others that wear shoulder holsters because the muzzle points right at the person behind them. There are some who carry to impress or to try to get respect rather than for self defense. I am talking about those that carry a firearm that is not even close to being capable of use for self defense. Saw a guy carrying in Walmart. He had a single action revolver on his hip and it was obvious he was one of those "hey look at me" types. What he was carrying was a Ruger Blackhawk in 44 magnum but that did not make me think he was carrying for attention. What did was the fact the pistol had a barrel that was at least 12" long and it was in a holster like you would see in an old western movie. Pretty sure he had it tied off around his leg like most "gun fighters" do in the movies. The holster embossing on the leather and had spare cartridges in the loops in the belt. And that setup was nothing more than a means to draw as much as attention as possible. The caliber is way to powerful to be used in a populated area and gun was way to big to draw easily.

Here is another little gem of experience. When bedding a gun you can either bed the receiver and free float the barrel or bed the barrel and free float the receiver. Each way has its own advantages and disadvantages. A bedded action, where the barrel is free floated, is what you use to squeeze the last bit of accuracy out of the gun. So what is disadvantagepus about that? Well you generally only have one or two loads, factory or hand loads, that perform well and the rest will give you miserable accuracy. A bedded barrel with a floated action is basically the opposite. You will not squeeze the best possible accuracy out of the gun but it will be accurate with a much wider selection of ammunition. Where your bedded action might have one or two super accurate loads a bedded barrel will have a dozen accurate loads but those loads will generally not be as accurate as a bedded action.

Until the Feds step in to force integration by bussing in those that are fleeing.

Problem is if you shoot any of them you will be persecuted, called a racist and likely go to prison for life. Even if you I know if I find myself in that situation I would hope I have a belt fed, several hundred rounds and a few hand grenades. If I am going away for life may as well make it worth it. These are not kids. Matter of fact they are not even human beings. They are nothing more than vicious animals and should be euthanized like you would any vicious animal that attacks someone for no reason. They do get euthanized but it takes a conviction of an aggravated murder to do so. I would support the death penalty for ANY serious, violent act such as what happened in the video.

I bought it as well and it is a good documentary.

You really need to use an attorney that is versed in NFA laws and rules. Yes, most attorneys could do a trust but if you screw up a trust managing regular items nothing will happen. Screw up a trust with NFA items and you could find yourself in serious legal trouble. The cost to make bond for possession of an unregistered NFA item is more than the cost of a trust, even an expensive trust. Then hiring a criminal defense attorney is going to cost a lot more than even the most expensive trust. Then the thought of loosing your freedom, your job, your home and basically everything you have worked for is not worth saving $500.   There is a reason why want an attorney that is specialized in NFA law. There are a lot of nuances with the NFA items that just does not apply to non NFA items in a trust.   You would not hire a real estate attorney to help you in a divorce. Much like you would not hire a roofer to fix your plumbing problem. You want a person who is experienced in that particular field.

I'll bring the body armor. :)   Yeah, getting hit with a Tazer is way better than getting sprayed with pepper spray. Matter of fact if I had to choose between getting shot again, like I was shot, and pepper spray I would take being shot every time. Pepper spray

I don't think adding weight will do anything to reduce the harmonics even though it will reduce recoil and reduce flinching.   Something I have done in the past that does help is to place something between the stock and the barrel to act as a dampener. Not sure how much room you have but I have used foam earplugs, cork and a piece of sponge.   The way to tighten the stock, even if you do not have a torque wrench, is loosen both screws. Then hold the barrel away from the stock at the tip of the forearm. Then tighten the rear action screw and then tighten the front screw. This helps the lug set properly on the lug pad in the stock. But before tightening place the dampener about 1" from the tip of the forearm.   After you get the dampener installed shoot some groups and record the results. Then move the dampener back an inch, shoot some groups and record the results. Eventually you will find a sweet spot where the groups really tighten up. But if you change ammunition you need to start over because all ammunition is different and how your gun shoots it will be different.   And finally, NEVER clean your barrel unless the accuracy starts to fall off. I have found that Savages have the roughest looking bores but they do not shoot well unless they are copper fouled. My best groups were shot out of a factory Savage barrel that had over 600 rounds through it since the last cleaning. That factory Savage barrel turned in consistent .3", center to center, groups at 100 yards. It shot enough .2" groups to know they were not a fluke.   There is a lot of stuff that can be done to a Savage to improve consistency and consistency is what makes a gun accurate.

And that supervisor had not acknowledged me for the past 5-6 years when I would say hello or wave at him. He had zero reason to be at my house because it was days after I needed officers at my house. The ONLY reason for him to come here was to try to find a reason to throw me in jail.   I will never again call 911, or the sheriff's office, until after everything is over and done with. I have called 911 plenty of times and get told the officers will not be coming.   They refuse to investigate anything except those who disrespect them.

All that gear makes it impossible to chase down bad guys. I would go out of my way to make sure I was carrying the least amount of weight possible, ounces equal pounds and pounds equal pain. I paid a lot of money when I had my body armor custom made to ensure it was the absolutely lightest available at the time. I would never wear anything that I absolutely did not need.   If officers were required to "walk their beat" like the old days they would not be wearing all that gear and those in the community would be able to talk to them. Most crimes are solved by witnesses in the community and a lot of crimes are going unsolved because there is a disconnect between the community and those charged with protecting that community. When officers quit walking around the communities they put a barrier up to the communication that solves crimes and protects communities. Most people will not talk to cops these days, even if they do have information to solve a crime, because of a fear of what the cop might do to them.   Even I avoid officers like the plague. The reason is because I have called them in my time of need only to have them hassle me rather than do what they should do. We had something serious happen that REQUIRED them to respond but they refused to respond. My attorney called the sheriff and threatened to sue the department. Well they did respond to my door but not to do what was right. They knocked on the door and my wife answered. The officers asked for me and my wife told them I was sleeping. They refused to leave so my wife woke me up and when I got to the door the first thing they said was "What kind of guns you have in the house". They were there because I disrespected them. I have no delusions to think they would do what is right, now or ever. If they could they would have arrested me for calling them in my time of need.     They know because it is his supervisor telling him what to buy. BTW, his supervisor is the one that showed up at my door asking what weapons I have in the house after my attorney called the sheriff.

  Actually it has been going on longer than that even. There was a big push after the Vietnam War to hire veterans, just like now with the wars in the Middle East. So back in the 70's, and on, the military were being hired by police departments.   The LE community has gone from a point of being there to help like most officers were doing 30+ years ago to a "us" vs "them" mentality we often see today. The reason this has happened is because there was a shift about 30-40 years ago, maybe longer, to hire prior military over those who had no military experience. Along with those military personnel came the military mindset that many had. And then with the influx of military personnel came the influx of military tactics, ways of training as well as the "us" versus "them" mentality. This is the reason there has been a militarization of most police departments as well. That and a lot of the same equipment used by officers while in the military are now being provided to LE as part a program that supplies LE with surplus military hardware. So in essence LE is now just a civilian extension of the military in both mindset as well as equipment. And now those same soldiers who joined the LE community are now in senior positions. It is those same senior officers that are now making changes to training and department policies. And that training and regulations are going to mirror what they knew in the military. Also, the "us" versus "them" mentality is how the military always trains. That is there is always an enemy in the military and then when the soldiers transition to civilian jobs, especially LE, they keep the same "us" vs "them" mentality except those that are not in law enforcement are now the new "enemy". This is why they no longer want to help, it is because those that are not LE are now their new "enemy".    I suspect most officers buy this gear not because they need it but because it looks cool or intimidating. I know an officer that is an RSO and rarely works patrol. He wants all the cool guy gear to wear around the elementary school kids. He also said he wanted an accurate rifle to be able to shoot people, not criminals, at 300+ yards. I told him there is no situation in which LE should be shooting anyone at 300 yards and, again, he could not understand why. He said rather than chase someone down he would just shoot them.   I don't have a problem with people having protective gear, heck I have everything I would hope to need to protect myself. And it is good to be trained on all the gear you might have to use. The problem I have is when that gear serves no purpose other than intimidate or that when one group can wear it and another can't. Imagine the kind of reaction I would get if I decided to go into Walmart in full kit, minus a rifle? LE would show up in a similar get up and tell me I cannot wear mine yet they can wear theirs.

That is the militarization of Law Enforcement. And yet another reason why people hesitate to approach or talk to officers. I know I would not even give a nod to an officer looking like that.