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What is the problem with it? Dolomite

Mohawk makes theirs in Tennessee. Mohark Armory Dolomite

Because what actually happened on the floor and what was reported are two different stories. The MG ban was defeated but Charlie Rangel declared that it had passed. The numbers were so substantial that a video would easily show his bias and hopefully overturn the ban. This is the same Charlie Rangel who has been in the news for ethics violations as well as some other unscrupulous behavior. It wouldn't be a stretch for him to lie for his chronies. The biggest problem I see with this is there are dealers who make a living selling very expensive machine guns and if the MG ban were to be lifted they would be out of a lot of money. It is these dealers who would probably prefer the ban to stay in place so they do not loose their ass. Before the ban went into effect machine guns so for about the same as semi auto guns. And most people just bought the semi auto then submitted the conversion paperwork. That way they could use their firearm until it got approved and once approved they drilled the receivers or installed the conversion parts themselves. This is no longer an option today unless you have a receiver that was registered before the 1986 ban. I would love to see it lifted. Being able to buy a M-11 for $300-$400 or a M-16 for $1400 rather than the $10K+ they are now. I would love to be able to just convert one of the guns I already own legally but that is not an option. Dolomite

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It says as of yesterday the Walmart on Walbrook is posted. I suspect that is not a Walmart policy and just a store manager's policy. No other Walmart I have ever walked into was posted. Dolomite

+1,000 Here are the ATF letters "legalizing" pistol gripped shotguns with a barrel of less than 18". http://www.nfaoa.org/documents/testttt20001.pdf http://www.nfaoa.org/documents/Pisto...hotgunLike.pdf The pistol gripped shotgun is still regulated under the GCA but not the NFA and as such only needs to abide by the 26" OAL ruling because there are no other rules governing it because it is not considered a shotgun, rifle or pistol for which there are rules. Dolomite

The factory 8 round mags will not work with a funnel. 7 rounders will but you need a pad to make sure you get a good seat. Next show I go to I am going to be buying a lot of 7 rounders and install the pads. Dolomite

There is a domestic maker of receivers so it will be like all other AK variants, import the parts kits then use a domestic receiver to build. Dolomite

+1 on the barrel bushing. Another member had his crack within 200 rounds. Mine showed a crack at about 500. Buy a Kart bushing and don't look back. Replacing the factory bushing with another factory bushing will only lead to the same thing. Also, make sure it will eject live ammunition. Mine had a longer than spec extractor as well as the nose not being contoured correctly. Both of the problems prevented loaded ammunition from being cleared from the gun without a little bit of finesse. And plan on the bluing to be thin. Mine had wear marks from the box it shipped in. And carrying it every day for the last 4 months has lead to some serious wear on the sharp corners. With that being said they are the best bang for the buck there is. Mine shoots great and has always went bang since day one. I carry it every day and have no doubts about its ability to go bang when I need it to. It also has a better frame to slide fit than my Colt and the Metro shoots better than the Colt as well. The trigger is nice from the factory but I did replace all the internals in mine for "peace of mind". Dolomite

It is my personal land so we can shoot dusk to dawn without issue. You are more than welcome any day of the week. Dolomite

The ATF will be ruling on what consitutes a sporting shotgun. And only those who are considered sporting shotguns will allowed to be imported. Saiga shotguns are rumored to be one of the ones that will no longer be considered a sporting shotgun. This is the first step, next will be domectically made shotguns that mimic the Saigas. Similar to what they did with the Streep Sweeper and their copies. Dolomite

It is not legal in its current configuration. It might get a sporting exemption from the ATF, I seariously doubt it though. It can not legally be a pistol if it is a smooth bore and if the bore is rifled the bore can not be larger than .5" which it is. It is not a shotgun, by definition, because it does not have a fixed shoulder stock. This leaves it with the requirement to be 26" OAL to be legal under the GCA, which it is not in its current configuraion so it would need to be sold under the NFA as a AOW with a $5 tax and 4-6 month wait. Pistol gripped shotguns are not classified as a shotgun. Pistol gripped shotguns are only classified as a firearm, not rifle, not pistol and not shotgun, and are only regulated under the GCA and as such they only need to be 26" OAL. Add a shoulder stock to a pistol gripped shotgun and it legally becomes a shotgun, no shoulder stock and it is not a shotgun. Dolomite

You are more than welcome as well. The more the merrier. We are looking at tomorrow sometime. Dolomite

He said he was worried about about selling it. I have never sold any of mine or even tried to represent them as anything. I gave a few as Christmas presents to people and let them know they weren't real. Dolomite

SSSH!!! We do not need it to get like England where knives are outlawed. The biggest problem is a bad guy knows their sentences are going to be light if they are caught. If every criminal knew there was a VERY GOOD chance they would be shot or killed if they attempted to hurt another then I suspect a lot of them would not attempt it. It will not help curb the crazies, like what happened in Arizona, from doing what they do but for most criminals it would probably curb their appetite to rob, rape, or murder. Also, I believe a victim who is shooting to remove a threat should not be held accountable for his actions so long as the criminal is the only one hurt. Adrenalin makes your mind do strange things or see things that may not be there and because of this there should be great latitude applied when judging a victim's actions. As far as sentences go, first offense should not be allowed to plea out for probation. They should do some actual time in jail on their first offense. Hopefully this would let them see how bad jail is before they go to the next step in the criminal career. Allowing a criminal to plea is never for the benifit of the criminal, it benefits the DA who can brag about his conviction rate and to save the cost of a trial. If I were in charge, which would likely never happen, the only plea a person could do was a gurantee of not receiving the maximum sentence for their crime and that there was no way of knowing what the actual sentence would be other than it will not be the maximum. If they chose to go to trial, instead of taking the plea to receive a sentence that is guranteed less than max, they would receive the maximum sentence if they were found guilty. Dolomite

I don't either. My Ipod lets me know when I need to be anywhere. Other than that I don't really care what time it is. And as much as I complain about my Ipod I don't think I will ever live without it again. It has become such a useful part of my life. Dolomite

I think he is saying what modern gun would you take back in time and how you would use it to change history. With that being said. A very, very quiet silenced pistol or long range rifle. Bring it back to just prior to 570 AD in Mecca and remove the thought of Muhammad ever being born. I believe his writings are responsible for more deaths than any other single person in history. Not saying all Muslims or that Islam is bad but it is the extremists, or fringe groups, that are using Muhammad's writings from later on in life as justification for the actions they take today against all non believers. Dolomite

I stopped, never quite, cold turkey in June of 2007. It is one of the roughest things I have ever done. Your mind races, muscle aches but the worst for me was the diarhea for the first 3 days. Believe it or not but a lot of green tea seemed to ease some of it. Your wife will understand, especially if she doesn't smoke. If she does it makes it a lot harder to stop because my wife still smokes. The first twelve hours are the worst so I would try to sleep throught that. The next big milestone for me was 3 days, then a week then finally after a month I felt comfortable hanging aorund smoker friends. Even today, 4 years later, I will crave a cigarette but knowing how hard it was to quite is what keeps me from picking them back up. If you want we can meet for lunch, dinner or you can come out to my place and we can sling some lead. I got plenty of lead and a decent area to shoot. If we get cold we can step back inside the house and sit around and have some coffe. Or if you just feel like talking PM me you number and I give you a call. I can talk guns or cars all day long and actually enjoy talking to people but don't get to a lot anymore since my injury limits my exposure to others. Dolomite

And the reason I say friends is because my memory of names is awful. I often wonder how I remember my own. Dolomite

Been on this earth a little while, travelling most of the time and the only reason I remember this is because I was able to compare some low end fakes to his high end one. We meet later and I asked how his fake was holding up because one of mine had died. That is when he told me the story of the dealer. I remember comparing his to others trying to figure out if the extra money was worth it. And seeing as well as feeling the difference was obvious. His job was worth way more than the $2000 he would have got from the watch. Most charges would have cost him his clearance, especially something like a theft. Dolomite

A friend of mine bought a high end replica while overseas. When all the other fakes were in the $20-$30 range he spent $200. It was a nice replica and you could see a difference between his and the lower end fakes. Upon returning to the states he took his replica to a Rolex dealer. The dealer looked it over and declared it a real Rolex. My friend told him it was a replica and the dealer said he couldn't tell from outward appearances. My friend told him to remove the back plate to inspect and the dealer still didn't believe it was a replica. Even after my friend told him it was a replica the dealer still offered him $2500 for the replica because the dealer stillbelieved it was real. My friend passed on the offer and still wears it to this days. Dolomite

Older thread about it: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/long-guns/51097-new-kel-tec-12-ga-14-rd-capacity-bullpup-shotgun.html Dolomite

Here are the ATF letters "legalizing" pistol gripped shotguns with a barrel of less than 18". http://www.nfaoa.org/documents/testttt20001.pdf http://www.nfaoa.org/documents/PistolGrippedShotgunLike.pdf The reason why this is possible is that a pistol gripped shotgun fall under its own category and is not considered a shotgun, rifle or pistol. A shotgun needs to have a shoulder stock to be considered a shotgun. If it left the factory without a shoulder stock it is not considered a shotgun and as such doesn't need to meet the 18" barrel requirements of a shotgun. It is considered a firearm under GCA but does not fit into any preexisting category. The pistol gripped shotgun is still regulated under the GCA but not the NFA and as such only needs to abide by the 26" OAL ruling because there are no other rules governing it because it is not considered a shotgun, rifle or pistol for which there are rules. In order for the ATF to NFA them they would have to create a new distimct category which would effectively outlaw thousands, if not millions, of pistol gripped shotguns with the swipe of a pen. As it stands right now, legally, as long as a pistol gripped shotgun left that way from the factory the barrel length can be any length so long as the OAL meets the 26" "easily concealed" length. Dolomite

28 gauge is larger than .5" so the bore can't be rifled and be non NFA. In order for it to be legal with a smooth bore it must meet the 26" OAL requirement if it is a pistol grip or have 18" barrels if it wears a stock. ATF just made a ruling that pistol gripped shotguns only need to meet the 26" OAL requirement. They ruled barrel length does not matter so long as the OAL is 26+". It is because a pistol gripped shotgun by definition is neither a shotgun, pistol or rifle so none of the rules that applies to those firearms do not apply to a pistol grip shotgun. When I get home I'll post the letters from the FTB stating this. A sample was submitted with a 17" barrel and they ruled it was in fact legal because it met the 26" OAL requirement. It must have come from the factory as a pistol gripped shotgun for the ruling to apply. There is even a manufacturer that is going to start producing pistol gripped Saigas under the new ruling. This would allow a shotgun with a shorter than 18" barrel. Dolomite

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-taurus-raging-judge-28-gauge-revolver/ Not sure how they are going to get past the NFA but you never know. Dolomite