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Regardless of the weapong they choose they are going to have the same problems because they can't see what needs to be done to make a more effective rifle. Some of you may have seen my stance on this but here goes again. The problem is the twist rate. With such a high twist rate the bullet will not tumble once the bullet drops below a certain velocity. Add to this a shorter barrel and you reduce the velocity enough to reduce the effectiveness of the current round to near nothing. To be effective the bullet needs to do one of two things, either tumble or break apart upon impact. The current setup has a twist rate that is too fast to tumble yet the bullet is too slow to break up. There are a couple of ways to fix the problem. First, change the twist rate to something that would allow the bullet to be marginally stabile out to roughly 200 yards. With the 62 grain M855 I thing the 9 twist is still too fast, we need a twist rate of probably 1:11 for it to work well. After all the 223/5.56 was never designed to be a weapon for long range shooting. Second, increase the barrel length to get the velocity up to a point where the bullet will fall apart upon impact. You don't hear of Marines having as manny issues as the Army, could it be because they still use a 20" barreled gun? I think so. The original design specs called for a 1:12 twist barrel to fire 55 grain bullets. This was nearly optimal and the bullet did both, tumble and fall apart upon impact becaue it was marginally stabile. Even at the farther ranges this combination would be quite effective because of these characteristics. The military ruined the cartridge by increasing the twist and using heavier bullets. The heavier bullets require the velocity to be reduced this reduces the chance the bullet will disrupt on impact and the increased twist decreases the likelyhood of the bullet tumbling upon impact. Believe it or not but by taking the 5.56 and reducing the velocity to less than 2000 fps it will increase its penetration because the bullet no longer tumbles or disrupts on impact. This is the reason we are hearing of all the problems with it overseas. The military is trying to take a short to medium range caliber and turn it into a long range caliber. Here are some interesting reads on the effectiveness of the 5.56: Do not hot link this but copy and paste it into a new browser to open it: http://stevespages.com/pdf/5_56mm_military_info.pdf This is the penetration based on velocity: http://stevespages.com/jpg/bestbullet.jpg I have persoanlly done a lot of testing on twist rates and how they affect the tumbling of rifle bullets. I have also tested the effectiveness of those same rifle bullets as they tumbled. Most of my testing was done on the edge of the sound barrier so roughly 1050 fps. If I can get a bullet to reliably tumble at less than 1100 fps there should be no problem getting a bullet travelling at 2500+ fps to reliably tumble. It is all in the twist rate. Dolomite

That is what the district manager said. That all was needed was the TABC to update their rules ro reflect the new laws. They are being contacted again by the reps from Applebees to hopefully get them up to speed with regards to the law. They contacted them shortly after they had to put the signs back up. The manager also said the TABC made them put up a pregnant and drinking is harmful sign as well even though there isn't a law specifically written to address that. Dolomite

They have an older sign that states it is illegal to enter an establishment that serves alcohol with a firearm. Basically, the old signage. I spoke to the district manager, who has a HCP, and she assured me it was perfectly legal to carry in her restaurant even though their is a sign posted. I told her that the sign referred to the old law and that the new law was worded different. She agreed and said that after the new law passed all of the Applebees in her district removed all signs regarding firearm carry. She went on to say that it was the Tennessee Alcohol Beverage Commission that told her that the signs she removed needed to be put back up. She said she tried to explain to them that the signs were old laws and didn't apply and they said they would fine the restaurant if they didn't. They did put the old signs back up to make TABC happy. After speaking to her she called the regional manager and between them they were going to call the TABC to let them know they needed to update the sign. She said more than a few times that it is idiotic to have a sign quoting the old law. SHe even said she might post the sign in the kitchen. So hopefully they will be removing the sign altogether. I just don't understand why they have to and I eat at others that aren't posted with the same sigh even though they serve alcohol. Dolomite

Call Craig's Firearms. I do believe they give EMS discounts. They definitely give LE/MIL discounts as well. I know their standard size Glocks sell for $397 and just shy of $450 out the door. I recently let my ability to get discounts expire because I never used it. Dolomite

Needing a local source for Wolf primers, specifically Small Rifle Magnum primers. I can order them online for $15 per 1,000 but the $25 hazmat fee is killing me. If anyone wants to split the hazmat fee it would make it easier for me to stomach. I am not looking for any other brands as I can easily get them. The reason I want Wolf is the Wolf primers give me an extra 200 fps compared to CCI 400, CCI 41 and Remington 7.5's. They also reduced my SD by half. Thanks Dolomite

I guess I am a really lucky guy. My wife likes to shoot and probably has as many guns as I do. She has been telling me for a few years now that we need a suppressor. She doesn't complain about gun purchases. Last time she fired a machine gun she also said we needed one of those but I suspect we would go broke feeding it. She shoots better than I do and has no problem killing nuisance animals as long as they are causing problems. Dolomite

What kind of shotgun is it? Reason I ask is I have a synthetic pistol grip shoulder stock for a 500/590 Mossberg. It might work better than hacking up the wood stock. Dolomite

If I remember right he has plenty of those as well. His selection is amazing when you consider the size of his shop. I thought is was an amazing selection then I was told he has 3 times as much in on site storage. I was told if I don't see it just ask and they would probably have it down stairs. I don't doubt it because the times I have been there I have seen people ask and they went downstairs and brought up exactly what they asked for. Dolomite

Legall yes as long as the barrel is 18" and the overall length is at least 26". A shotgun that was originally equipped with a shoulder stock must have a barrel of at least 18" to be legal. If you start with a shotgun that was equipped with a pistol grip from the factory there is no barrel length requirement but there is a requirement for it to be at least 26" in overall length. Dolomite

Mine have all been 100%. I was having problems getting a 9mm AR to run until I used their mags. Dolomite

Something else that was odd now that you mention C Products. I was talking to a vendor who had already ordered and paid for a bunch of their stainless mags. I was going to order based on them saying they were going to be in the next day. I called and called but well over a week later and still no magazines for the vendor as well. It almost sounds like some of this was planned, as in take as many paying orders as you can then sell the company but keep the pre order money. If it is how it looks I hope they hang the person(s) responsible but in reality it would take a lot more money than the cost of the magazines people are out. It is a typical scammer move I have seen in the past, keep the individual's out lay of cash less than an attorney's fee and the scammers are probably safe. Any way you look at it, it is definitely not looking good. Dolomite

No more cheap mags then. I suspect who ever bought it is going to jack the prices up on all their products because they are some of the best out there for the money. Dolomite

I have been amember there for a very long time. I had changed names about 5 years to my current name. I can honestly say that it has went downhill over the last 3-4 years. It seems like they staff caters to the vendors now. Even when they knew there were problems they would lock, move or delete threads all the time. And along with any locks a few members wouyld get banned. I suspect your magazines will never materialize. I bet they took the money knowing the company was going to be sold then after the sale wash their hands of the group buy. Dolomite

Metro Arms are great for the money. I have said it before and I will say it again. The frame to slide fit is better than my Colt. The Metro also shoots better than my Colt. It comes with a lot of great features. I am coming up on 1,000 trouble free rounds through mine. The only problem I had was the barrel bushing seemed to develop a crack but I planned on replacing it from day one anyways. I have about $600 in mine now and it is as good as any 1,000 gun. It shoots better than I can and is reliable enough for me to use is as my primary carry gun. If you are ever in the Knoxville area you are more than welcome to come by and shoot my Metro Arms and my Colt to compare the two. Dolomite

If you want an inexpensive gun look at the Stevens 200's. They are identical to Savages except they do not have the Accutrigger. They can be bought everyday for $319 at Gander Mountain and Academy Sports has them on sale a few times a year for $179. There is also a version with a 26" varmint barrel that runs in the $399 range if I remember correctly. Another great thing about the 200's is that because they are made by Savage all the aftermarket or factory parts will drop right in. I use Steven 200's as a basis for my builds so having a lot of aftermarket parts is a great bonus. And finally the best part about Stevens/Savages is that they are very user friendly. I can swap a barrel in about 10 minutes. If I have to swap the bolt head it takes another 10 minutes but I can have a completely different gun in 30 miuntes without the use of a gunsmith. I often call them the 10/22's of the centerfire world. If you plan on doing any type of upgrades avoid the Axis or Edge despite how appealing the price is. There is absolutely no aftermarket support for them. They do seem to shoot well for most and Savage will stand behind them but I just can't leave anything alone so they are not an option for me. Dolomite

TresMon, before the Savage management change over in the 90's all Savages were 11X's, 110, 112, 114, 116, ets, regardless of whether the caliber was a short action or long action. It is when they did their change they actually seperated the two and made dedicated short (model 10) or long (model 110) actions for the various calibers. I am not an expert but I have had a lot of experience with Savages. I use them to build all of my projects because they are easier for me to do this at home without the need of a smith. We have met at the Volunteer Rifle Range a few times. The last time I was out there you spotted for me as I was having rounds fly apart from too much twist and too much velocity, nothing like a gray mist of lead as the bullet disintegrates. You have a 700 you were breaking in next to me or at least I believe that was you. If it is a long action 110 in 223 I'll assume it is a early flat back model rather than the newer round back models. With that being said one peice bases are pretty much non-existent for flat back Savages. It won't have the Accutrigger either. If it does have the round back, I seriously doubt it, then the EGW bases mentioned above are about the best inexpensive base there is. Because it is a full rail it allows a lot of leeway in where the rings are placed. Pretty much the best of the best for Savages are the Ken Ferrel bases but I am not sure they make then for the flat back receivers. Although I can't confirm this but I have been told that Remington 700 bases will work on the flat back Savages because the Remington's have a flat back as well. This might give you a few more choices but the spacing will be different between the front and rear so a one piece base is out of the question. Extra tall rings are likely going to be too tall, I would look at the tall bases first. And if you use a one piece rail you can probably go with medium bases because the one piece rails add a lot of height. Dolomite

If he doesn't have at least 3 times that I would be really surprized. His selection of 1911's is amazing, not just Kimbers either. Dolomite

Similar to everything that was "turbo" back in teh 80's and 90's. It seemed like everything was turbo charged, from cars to computers. Dolomite

Mike's in Tazewell has the largest selection of pistols I have seen. More than any small shop as well as Gander Mountain and probably Bass Pro. His prices are also very fair. What most don't realize is that most of his inventory is downstairs. If it isn't up top ask and they likely have it downstairs. Dolomite

The problem I have is that Kimber turned their backs the second the warranty ran out. It wasn't like the guns were decades old, they were a year old. The agency had even contacted Kimber before the warranty ran out and got the usual response "it needs broken in more". I was actually considering buying a Kimber but knowing this I think my money will go elsewhere. I would expect Kimber to have a lifetime warranty like most other makers of decent 1911's but I guess not. I do like their different models and what each one represents but for the money I will go elsewhere. Dolomite

I have started adding 6mm airsoft BB's to my mix. Seems to supercharge the cleaning process in my 45 ACP and 223 brass. I initially did this when I ran out of media and used the BB's to fill volume in my tumbler. After that I realized that media alone with the BB's did better than media alone with cleaners and polish. I use the Kattee Walnut Lizard Litter as well. The only thing is I use the Desert Blend because it is much finer so you don't have to pick it out of the primer pockets. Dolomite

The last thing we need, especially now, is for the thoughts and ideas that are flowing pretty freely now to be regulated by the governemnt. Any time something is regulated it shrinks in size or use and as such regulation will begin to stifle the innovation that has made this country so great. I welcome all thoughts or statements, even the crackpot ones, because it starts the idea process and tht is how new inventions or processes are formed. And finally, any regulation is going to be used by those in power to "regulate" what people are allowed to say or hear. Look at the mainstream media we have now, they are so one sided we rarely see anything positive about anybody other than the left side. This is what would happen with the internet if regualted, it would be used to regulate those that aren't mainstream into oblivion. Dolomite

It probably needs the compression of the engine to become "more" flammable, similar to the way diesel acts. Diesel is actually very stabile and less flammable than gas (thats why the military uses it rather than gas for most vehicles) until it is compressed and then it explodes. This is why a diesel doesn't use spark plugs, it uses glow plugs to get the mixture hotter to make it more explosive under compression when the engine is cold. Almost any oil based liquid will spontaneously ignite under the right amount of pressure. The Emergency Fuel is a nice idea but there should be no excuse for running out of fuel anymore. As part of the survival strategy you should always keep 1/2 tank anyways. Dolomite

For me I would like to try a piston setup but as far as reliability goes I do not see them being any better than the proven DI system. I understand why they should be better but have yet to really seen documentation of a real world difference between the two. A quality DI rifle is going to be as reliable as a quality piston rifle. There have been a lot of documented DI AR's going thousands upon thousands of rounds without cleaning. I have persoanlly fired over 3000 rounds on a trip without cleaning. On number of my trips overseas I would practice weekly, firing 300-500 rounds every week for 8-10 weeks. Definitely over 3000 rounds. I would break the gun down at the begining of my trip to make sure no parts were broken and to give the weapon a good cleaning. The next time I would break it down would be at the end of the trip to clean it before turn in. Yes it was very, very dirty but it never had any type of malfunction. I will try to find my post detailing all of them but one in particular had 4800 rounds of Wolf, yes Wolf, without cleaning. It is in the archives of AR15.com but you can't see it unless you are a paid member. Here are a few others: 15K rounds of Wolf without cleaning Pat Rogers school has a rifle that is rented that has documented more than most: BCM Complete AR15 Upper and Lower Receivers [2010-01-01] - 03DESIGNGROUP Here is the most recent article about "Filthy 14". Yes they did finally clean it after firing 26,245 rounds without cleaning. http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/filthy14_oct10.pdf So for me it is more snake oil than actually needed because when was the last time any of us fired 25K rounds without cleaning. I'll admit I am not a big fan of cleaning my AR but I have never made it to 25K rounds using a single AR, without or without cleaning. Rather than spend the money on a piston setup I would buy more ammo and practice. I would also buy some of the normal wear parts of an AR. Buy a few disconnects, a few extractor springs, a few hammer springs, a few trigger springs, an extra firing pin, extra gas rings and maybe an extra bolt hold open or two as well as a extra set of hammer/trigger pins. These are the parts I see fail the most with the extractor spring and disconnect being the top two. Dolomite

There is no such thing as freedom of speech on a privately owned forum. If the moderators don't like what you are saying it is their right to edit it out or delete it completely, after all it is their private property where you have choosen to write. Same thing as saying you have the right to say whatever you want in my house because you don't. If I don't like what you are saying I will remove you from my house. In the same way an internet website can remove you from their site as well as remvoe anything you have posted. And this isn't a stretch at all, go into any retailer and begin spouting off nonsense, you will get asked to leave as well. As far a being annonymous I like it. Mostly because there are thoughts and ideas that may have never come to light for fear of ridicule. It is those ideas that lead to innovation. Dolomite