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[quote name='Fingersoup' timestamp='1354056749' post='851586'] Are you sure about that? Maybe I'm reading this wrong: [b]Any person using force intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily injury[/b] within a residence, business, dwelling or vehicle[b] is presumed to have held a reasonable belief of imminent death or serious bodily injury[/b] to self, family, a member of the household or a person visiting as an invited guest, [b]when that force is used against another person, who unlawfully and forcibly enters or has unlawfully and forcibly entered the residence[/b], business, dwelling or vehicle, [b]and the person using defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry occurred[/b].. [/quote] Link your source. Dolomite

[quote name='personDJ' timestamp='1354005010' post='851194'] If the person takes from me something I earned I shoot. if hunger has you then ask, I will feed you but if you take my food I shoot you. [/quote] And you will be charged with murder, sentenced and spend some time in prison. You [u]cannot[/u] legally shoot anyone in the defense of property, no matter if they are stealing somethign worth $1 or $50,000. *********************************************************************************************************** As of yet we have no clue what killed him. He could have fallen and hit his head. I watched a guy die inside of 30 minutes because of brain stem swelling after taking a very mild hit die. We had a guy who resisted the pat down and was taken to the ground. He did not get slammed or hit in the head or anything and was just being forced to the ground. He quit breathing, his heart stopped immediately and had it not been for an officer to start CPR the guy would have probably died. We stood there dumbfounded and reviewed the tapes over and over again and saw nothing that could have caused this. After he woke up he was transported to the hospita and they could not find a single injury, bruises or anything. The body is a complex machine and just like any complex machine it can fail for no apparent reason. Dolomite

[quote name='wstrnrdr' timestamp='1353990184' post='851157'] WOWWW! Race, national origion,asylums, lobotomies, mental capabilities, wheel chairs, security gaurds, and even a Congalese court. Accusations,insults, and innuendo. Seems even moderators are getting heated on this topic. [color=#FF0000]I thought the mods job was to moderate, keep threads decent and on track[/color]. Someone was right, I need more popcorn and a bg gulp. Seriously dissapointed in the tone and direction or the lack of direction on this thread. Maybe at this point the thread should be closed and everyone wait and get the actual fact of a proposed bill and see the actual content. Then maybe the real merits or lack of merits might possibly be debated. I see very little legit pros or cons being discussed. [/quote] We have opinions to and just like you we like to express them. Just because we are moderators doesn't mean we have to be mindless, emotionless zombies. When things get out of hand the members are pretty good about reporting it when it goes over the line and then we address it. This is a hot issue, not only here but across the state. And with anything people are passionate about things do get a bit heated. Dolomite

We have meet and I am glad to say you are a fine addition to the state of Tennessee. You are just as normal as anyone else. Every state has their weird people, California and Tennessee are not that far apart in that respect. As far as the transition to good ole boy from something else it will take a very long time. My father moved here in 1976 and he is still a damn yankee. According to the locals he single handedly ruined the cheap land here, inflated the prices at flea markets and yard sale as well as increased everyone's taxes. Heck, I have been here since I was 6 and I am still seen as an outside among the older people in my area. Just be yourself and you might become one of those good yankees. Dolomite

Go to a clinic or somewhere to seek medical attention. Otherwise it will not be viewed as very serious, at least not enough to probably be able to seek damages beyond fixing the car. Get a hold of JReedEsq on here. He is a vendor and handles personal injury stuff I believe. Dolomite

That is the funniest thing I have seen in a very, very long time. Dolomite

[quote name='RobertNashville' timestamp='1353949657' post='850825'] As for the knife[color=#FF0000] [/color][b][color=#B22222][u]to the throat [/u][/color][/b]abuser it should be obvious that such threatening is NOT the threatening I'm talking about but even including that, with the exception of Domestic Violence, I still know of no crime that, with conviction, prevents the restoration of 2A rights [i][u]forever[/u][/i]. [/quote] Never said this. Please quote where I said knife to the throat. Dolomite

[quote name='Volzfan' timestamp='1353947701' post='850806'] Killing someone over stuff is a bit extreme but my question is why bother with a loss prevention team if they can't physically detain the thief? [/quote] They are supposed to be witnesses, nothing more. They can ask the shoplifter to come back inside but the criminal can just keep walking. Dolomite

We no longer have a justice system, we have a legal system. Way too many things are crimes that should not be, especially those laws that were created to protect us from ourselves. Heck, there should be no reason why a 20 something year old with 10 joints in his pocket gets sentenced to 10 years while a 50+ year old man that raped a 15 year old gets 15 months. I was there and as well as followed both cases closely. One was violent and should have resulted in decades in prison, if not death, while the other should have never been a crime in the first place. For me, as I have said before, it comes down to whether the crime was violent. Thats it. Not felony or misdemeanor but violent vs non violent. As far as threats go only allow it to be used to effect an arrest if the person making the threat is capable of carrying the threat out. Like if a person threatens to use a "phazed plasma rifle in the 40 watt range" to kill someone most people would just laugh. If the same threat was made except replace the plasma rifle with a 357 magnum people are not going to be laughing. Or someone holding up a wet, limp spaghetti noodle saying they are going to stab someone to death, that is hardly a threat. Same person holding a butcher knife, very much a threat. And I think you, Robert, would agree that if someone is holding a knife and threatening to kill someone a crime has been committed. Your friend who spent decades in jail over bad checks should not have his gun rights removed because it was not violent. Should he have spent decades in jail? I don't think so but he should have been punished as harshly as to make him change his ways. But as far as gun rights he should be able to own a gun because his crime was non violent. Dolomite

[quote name='Chucktshoes' timestamp='1353906146' post='850706'] On a couple of occasions my wife has slapped me. Should she lose her gun rights forever? [/quote] If [u]you [/u]thought is was serious enough to call LE and then LE arrested her and then the DA decided to prosecute her and she was tried and finally if convicted of, or plead guilty to, domestic violence then yes she should loose her rights to a firearm. But you obviously thought it was not a serious enough case to call LE and in that case she should not. Most people who are abused do not call the first time. Most have been a victim for quite a while when they finally decide they have had enough. It causes mental, and sometimes physical problems, for the victims that last a lifetime. Domestic violence isn't just husband and wife, it can be children abusing their parents, or parents abusing their children it can be the elderly being abused by their grown children. And if the fear of loosing their right to own a gun prevents a person from abusing another then I am all for it. I am for anything that will prevent the abuse. The way the law is right now regarding domestic violence is how it should remain. They make no distinction between male and female although it can sometimes be jaded to make the female more of a victim than what she really is. It is up to the person on the receiving end to determine if it is abuse or not. What may be abusive to one person might not be to another. I would also say that if the victim is posting bond for, or continues to live with, the abuser the charges should be dropped and the convictions expunged. And just because someone is a female does not mean they have carte blanche to assault or abuse someone. Some of the most abusive people I have come across were females. For me the distinction is whether the crime was violent or not. If a person has been convicted 100 times of non violent crimes then they should be able to own a firearm, felony or not. If they have a single conviction for a crime that is violent they should not, misdemeanor or not. Dolomite

Run it down to Predator Custom shop on Papermill road. They have a cabinet big enough to do it and do it all the time. If you use aluminum oxide you can roughen the metal enough that if you decide to paint the paint will stick. It is also rough enough that if you cold blue it, with quality cold blue, it will give it a durable parkerized look to it. Sand is never a good idea. It can cause a life threatening condition called silicosis. Dolomite

In our state security guards are trained and must meet a minimum standard to work in the security field. As a matter of fact you must be licensed, which isn't cheap, to be able to do it. With the armed guard license you must qualify with the caliber you are going to be carrying while working. You are issued a state ID that expires every couple of years. Now I am not saying that it is difficult to pass but there is a process to weed out all the problem people. It is also possible to launch a state investigation into security guards without ever talking to their employer. As far as the shoplifter I don't think the guard meant to kill him but had it not been for the shoplifter's actions nothing would have happened. What probably happened is the guard had the guy in a choke hold and held it until officers arrived, choking the shoplifter to death. Too easy to do, especially in the heat of the moment with the adrenaline flowing. The guard is likely going to be charged with manslaughter and maybe even the employees. He will get convicted but probably will not get too much time, if any, in jail. Dolomite

[quote name='J.boyette' timestamp='1353907100' post='850713'] More info and not in short hand please. Is the FSP a rail mounted sight or a gas block mount? Flip up of fixed? factory installed or self installed? If factory the brand. The upper a A3, A4 or a A2? Barrel twist + OAL and ammunition used? John [/quote] He already has it figured out. Dolomite

Ok what about a husband that slaps his wife? Should he loose his gun rights forever? Dolomite

Also, IMHO, anyone who has went to jail and finished their senence has [u]not[/u] repaid their debt to society. What they have done is been punished for the crimes they committed. They have not repaid anything. In my eyes their debt has not been repaid unless they paid the state back for the cost of their arrest, trial and housing. Until that time they have not repaid their debt. Oh yeah, lets not forget about all that is owed to the victims of those they committed the crime against. I guarantee most victims of violent crimes need counseling and in some cases medication to deal with the trauma of a violent action agaist them. Do you think the criminal pays for that? No they do not, they go to jail and serve maybe 35% of the original sentence and then they proclaim they have repaid their debt to society. So under those rules if a criminal has repaid all those debts then yes they can go back to having everything they had before they were a criminal but not a penny before. Dolomite

Domestic violence is a misdemeanor and that is one case in which firearm ownership should be gone. Heck a person could be convicted of domestic violence a dozen times and it will still be a misdemeanor. So the misdemeanor vs felony should not be the deciding factor. Whether the crime was violent or not should be. Think about it, a person who has 10 joints on him is likely to be charged with a felony yet he is not violent like a domestic abuser is. I did not say those that plead guilty should be punished more. Just that they should be punished the same as those who have been through a trial. Should we not err on the side of caution with those have been [u]proven[/u] to be violent in the past? I think if you look at violent vs non violent and compare it to felony only you will see more people gaining their rights back. There are a lot more felonies out there for non violent crimes than for violent crimes. I just do not believe a violent person should get any breaks in society. Dolomite

With factory ammo 1" at 100 yards is pretty damn good. I would say yours is average with factory ammo for most AR's out there. Might try a few other brands to see if it improves. Now with handloads it is a completely different story. It is possible to cut groups substantially with handloads. One of my AR's shoots consistent 2" groups at 100 yards using factory ammo. It will shoot .75" groups using my handloads. And you can't compare a Savage to an AR. Almost any Savage will shoot circles around any AR. I mean my 223 Savage shoots .3" groups with handloads. Dolomite

And if a person looses their firearm ownership rights they also loose the right to vote. I am for restoration of rights but not for everyone and not for every case. Life is not fair and there should be consequences for your actions. And there should be some long term consequences for certain crimes. I think that if a person is convicted of a [b][color=#FF0000]non[/color][/b] violent felony then allow the judge to made the determination of whether they are allowed to have firearms [u]and[/u] the right to vote. If they are convicted of a non violent misdemeanor then allow them to keep their right to vote and have a firearm. But if a person is convicted of, or plead guilty to, a violent crime they should loose their gun rights as well as the right to vote for the rest of their life. That is unless they are later proven innocent of the crime they were convicted of but that doesn't really matter anyways because anyone who is found to have been wrongfully convicted gets all their rights restored anyways. So that argument doesn't even pertain to them. But if they [u][b]plead[/b][/u] guilty to a violent crime, misdemeanor or felony, they loose the right to vote as well as their firearm rights. When someone pleads guilty they are doing that of their own free will. I do not loath guns but I do loath violent criminals. And those violent criminals I loath should not have their gun or voting rights restored. What about those people who have a mental condition that have never been convicted of a crime? They should also be allowed to own firearms as well I guess. They have never shown a propensity for violence yet they are not allowed to legally own a firearm. Or lets let all the illegal aliens have firearms and the right to vote. They are not felons. As I said before my line is whether the crime is not misdemeanor or felony but if the crime was violent in nature. If a person had 100 felony convictions for non violent crimes then I say give the judge the option to restore their rights. If a person has a single violent conviction then your gun and voting rights are gone, period. No appeals to restore the rights unless the conviction is overturned. How many are saying that once a person does the time they should be back at square one and trusted? I know I will not because I am jaded by working in LE. I seen violent crimes and their victims. Dolomite

The 40X is a higher quality, fit and finish wise, gun than the 700. Does it shoot better? Hard to say as each gun is different. Dolomite

For me the criteria is if the crime was violent. Not misdemeanor and felony because there are misdemeanors that are violent and fell us that are not. I don't care if it is only a misdemeanor, if it is violent they should not be allowed to own a firearm. Domestic violence is a prime example of this. There are felony convictions that should not affect gun ownership as well like most drug convictions. Dolomite

Last time I was at Norris there were a couple of guys on the last land shooting plastic bottles with a shotgun. Well after 5-10 shots the bottles went of the side and down a hill. Tired of waiting for the cease fires one would run down and throw them back up into the firing lane then return to the firing line. Well that transitioned to the guy staying 15 yards in front of the line and throwing the plastic bottles back up as they rolled down the hill. He did this while his buddy, as well as the rest of the kind were actively shooting. Same day. A guy was sighting in his AR in 22. He set his target out at 25 yards and began sighting in his red dot. Well he apparently wasn't able to see the impacts so he just walked out to the target with the line hot. We all quit shooting, all that is except one. A guy was looking through a high powered scope and didn't notice the idiot. BOOOOOM!!!!!! Scared the crap put of the idiot but what did he do? Sat down 10 yards from his target and 15 yards in front of the line to finish zeroing his gun. He closed the line down for 5 minutes and when we mentioned he could move the target back he got upset. Later, as he walked back to the line, he said he paid his dues so he had every right to do what he did. That was his first time on the range and my last. I like Nortis because you get to BS with people but the idiots do make it scary. Dolomite

How about doing a popular vote. That way the people of the state can decide what they want. Eliminate the legislative middlemen that ruin the process. Dolomite

Milspec will work with every stock out there so that is a big reason to go milspec. Strength is not a consideration, nor is the threads, for me. Dolomite

I have seen several lowers break before the commercial buffer tube. They crack right at the rear takedown pin. I have yet to see where the threads on a commercial buffer tube become an issue. Yes they are a bit smaller but I can assure you .015" isn't enough to be a problem with a lower that [u]is[/u] in spec. Dolomite