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Are you sure it is a 10 twist? It would be one of the rarer versions. Personally I like 10 twist over 8 twist but I would make 100% sure. I think 10 twist will be more accurate than 8 twist with most supersonic loads. I have two 8 twist guns and a 10 twist gun. Also, is it new? The reason I ask is most 10 twist guns were Whisper guns. The calibers should interchange but if you are loading ammo using dies for the 300 Blackout it can cause problems in some Whisper guns.   I know you said you have no plans to shoot subsonics but I will let you know this. I have found that the 10 twist will stabilize jacketed bullets up to 200 grains at velocities down to 1,000 fps. 8 twist will let you shoot jacketed 220 grain bullets at the same velocity. With cast bullet a 10 twist will handle 220 cast bullets and 8 with handle 250 grain cast bullets. Now some 10 twist barrels will be able to stabilize heavier but you must verify.   Also need to know the length of the gas system, carbine or pistol length. I suspect carbine length but it makes a difference on load data. With a pistol length gas system you can run a lot more different kinds of powders than with a carbine length.   For powders I would look at Lil'Gun, H4227 or H110. Those seem to make up the top 90% of powders used in the 300 Blackout.   Here is a great resource for load data, and not just for the 300 Blackout. http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Remind me, I need to pick up some stock in ALCOA. It is likely the only stock to survive the crash and will probably increase in value the closer we get.

And this comes from a person who quoted someone else on page 1 then complained about himself quoting it on page 2. http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/71263-hair-line-crack-in-mesa-tactical-stock/page-2#entry1047381   Passing the psych test for LE isn't the measure of a man either, far from it. Staying in LE is a measure of a person but not passing some test because 99% of the population could pass a LE psych eval without issue.   I have seen schizophrenics get hired after passing a psych eval. One in particular left the job for over a week and when she returned we asked her where she had been. She said her other personality didn't know that she worked for the SO. We verified and yes she was diagnosed with multiple personalities. She tried to say that the multiple personality disorder was a sickness and her missing work because of it was just like someone who missed work because of a cold. She said she didn't deserve to be fired but she was really, really fast.   How about we do this, keep the insults to yourself.

Most cheap red dots will survive on a 22 pistol. Where the cost comes in is with battery life and brightness. Most cheap Doctor Optic clones have a battery life of less than a week if left on. Now my Burris Fast has battery life that is amazing. I leave it on all the time and I will generally get over a year before I need to replace the battery. And with the Fast Fire I put a piece of tape over the eye because it can sometimes be too bright. But with the clones the sun washes the dot out. You could be able to find a decent red dot for under $75. Not the best but far from he worst. Above all else make sure that the sight can be turned off.

Be very careful about trying to advertise your business here without being a vendor.

Now there you go making sense. The fear mongering, conspiracy types aren't going to believe it for a minute though.   Pretty sure the Smokey Mountain National Park has a few "Road Closed" signs on hand because of the road closings every winter.   I guess when LE put barricades around wrecks on the highways then those wrecks must have been premeditated. Must also be premeditated when they tape off a crime scene, afterall they must have known that crime was going to happen because they put that roll of tape in the trunk.   Just more fear mongering.

I posted last year, or maybe earlier this year, that the 300BO was my end of times caliber. The biggest reason is I can cast for it and I can push them as hard as the 300BO is capable of pushing it. I cannot do the same with a 22 caliber bullet loaded into a 223 AR. I can powder coat and shoot them in a AR but without electricity it will make powder coating difficult.   And a cast bullet performs as well as most jacketed bullets in the velocities of the 300BO.

Give me a call again. I figured something out too that might help, seemed to help me.   I will be up until about 11pm.

You are more than welcome to call anytime, goes for anyone else here that has questions or just wants to shoot the bull for a bit. I am not shy about giving my number out to anyone who asks for it.   The biggest advantage the 300 Blackout has over the 223 is the ability to shoot a subsonic bullet through a suppressor. Also, a bigger hole tends to bleed more. And honestly there are probably 100 more types of 308 bullets than there are 223 bullets giving you a wider selection.   I sent both of you my number, give me a call sometime.

You might have a good set. If every set was bad we would be hearing about it. I think some of the first run were not perfect. Yours would definitely work in my Whisper gun.

Here is the chamber comparison of the Whisper and the Blackout: The Blackout chamber is a little looser than the Whisper but the ammunition is the same. Think of it like 5.56 vs 223. I tell people that my Whisper is actually a Blackout "match" chamber. Here is the dimensional drawings for ammunition according to Sierra. (notice they are identical except the max length of the case mouth is longer) And as long as the length is not at the max length of 1.368", which it shouldn't be, the 300 Blackout ammo should chamber in a 300 Whisper chamber. The ammunition will be tighter in a Whisper chamber but it should chamber just fine providing the ammunition is the same specs as specified below. But as I said I believe the problem with some Lee dies is they do not size the case down enough in the waist. I think the .344" neck OD on the Whisper drawing is a error. I know my Whisper barrel has a .335" neck and all of my loaded ammo runs ~.332" +/- .001".

All the blanks I have used have been reamed using a Blackout reamer. The only Whisper I own I bought that way and did not build it.   This wasn't mean to start a Whisper vs Blackout discussion. In properly made guns, using ammunition made using properly made dies they should interchange. You should be able to shoot Whisper ammo in a Blackout gun and Blackout ammo in a Whisper gun.

I did not buy a blank and have it reamed. I bought a Contender barrel that was chambered as a Whisper. All my other guns were reamed using a Blackout reamer.

  There is no need to do this.

I have had several people here, maybe they will chime in, that have HIGH END guns and when they used Lee dies that I recommended the ammo would not chamber. And when they went to RCBS and Hornady dies the issue went away. These are not me but someone else. I do have a Whisper chambered gun and Lee loads will not chamber but RCBS loads will.   Daniel Defense is one of the ones I have seen have issues with Lee dies and fixed with other brands of dies.   I, for a long time, was singing praises of the 300 Blackout Lee dies but now that I have personally seen several guns have issues I am starting to change my mind. On another board there are a lot of people who are experiencing the same thing. At any rate if you have a 300 Blackout gun that doesn't want to chamber your rounds made with Lee dies look at the dies before you look at the gun.

  Just 300 Blackout for now? I bet you could go really, really cheap and get a setup under $150. Send me a PM to remind me and I will look around and work up a list.

It will stablize any cast bullet out there. I edited it with some changes.

It will stablize any cast bullet out there.

I see there is a lot of interest as of late in the 300 Blackout. And it seems like there are a lot of people planning on building one in the near future so I figured I would post up some things to take into consideration when building a 300 Blackout. The two biggest considerations are what gas system and what twist.   First, let me start by saying that other than the barrels and muzzle devices all other parts are identical to what is found on any 5.56 AR-15. The lowers are identical and you should be able to use any standard lower that functions with a 5.56 upper with a 300 Blackout upper. A threaded 300 Blackout barrel will use 5/8-24 threads. That is the standard for any .308 caliber muzzle device.    What gas system do I need?   There are two types of gas systems used in the 300 Blackout, pistol length and carbine length. Each one has its own advantages and disadvantages, depending on how you look at it.   A carbine length gas system does not require an adjustable gas block and requires no adjustment if shooting supersonics. You can use a standard gas block which is a little cheaper than and adjustable one. But with a carbine length gas system you may run into problems cycling if you are not shooting supersonic, full power loads. I know I have read, and helped, a lot of people with carbine length gas systems and in 90% of the cases it requires a lot of custom parts to get it to function when shooting subsonic ammunition, even factory subsonic ammunition. Now if you are going to be adding a suppressor then the cycling issues go away in most cases. With a carbine length gas system you cannot shorten the barrel too much below 16" without running into cycling issues both with and without a suppressor. If all you ever plan on doing is shooting supersonic ammo then the carbine length gas system will work great. If you reload then the carbine length gas system can be finicky as far as what powders and bullet weights can be used.    A pistol length gas system may require an adjustable gas block, depending on port size, with a 16" barrel to shoot both supersonic ammo and subsonic ammo. A pistol length gas system setup to shoot subsonics may be over gassed when shooting supersonic ammo without an adjustable gas block but in most cases the gun will still be reliable but run a little dirtier. A pistol length gas system will be reliable with subsonics even if you do not have a suppressor. A pistol length gas system allows you to use the widest variety of powders and bullet weights. It also allows you to make a SBR or pistol with a barrel length down to as short as 7". The most reliable setup is going to be the pistol length gas system whether shooting subsonics or supersonics.    So in the end if you plan on shooting subsonics you want to have a pistol length gas system. If all you are going to be shooting is supersonics then a carbine length gas system is going to work fine. But a pistol length gas system will work with both but might require an adjustable gas block. You should be running an adjustable gas block anyways to tune the gun for reduced recoil, reliability as well as to keep it cleaner for longer. Using an adjustable gas block you can artificially lengthen a pistol length gas system but there is no way to artificially shorten a carbine gas system.   ***************************************************************************************************************************   Reloading for the 300 Blackout For reloaders. There is tons of published data out there for both supersonic and subsonic loads. But you can also use load data for the 300 Whisper, which has been around for several decades. The two rounds are interchangeable.   As far as dies go any should work but I have seen some issues as of late with Lee dies. Personally I like the RCBS dies because I can replace the expander ball. It is important for me because I cast and with the .311" expander ball I do not size my cast bullets down as I seat them into the case.    For those of us that cast or plan to. Be mindful that not all 30 caliber cast bullets will work with the 300 Blackout in an AR. Some require the OAL to be 2.26" to avoid exposing the lube grooves. And when you seat ANY bullet, cast or jacketed, to that length it can cause problems with some magazines. The ideal length should be under 2.15". Also, when loading cast bullets the case necks need to be larger than what you would use for jacketed. Also, if shooting cast you must bell the cast mouth. Lee makes a universal case mouth expanding die. And you want just enough of a bell to not shave the cast bullet. You should not be able to easily see or feel the bell.    So how or where do I get brass? You can either buy it or make your own. Buying it is self explanatory but because the caliber is based on a necked up 223 you can use 223 or 5.56 brass to make your own. You cut the 223 case off at the shoulder. Then you size and trim like any other caliber out there. To cut my brass I use a Harbor Freight mini chop saw and a fixture that holds the cases but you could use anything really. And even though it is a small case it still requires lube just like the 223.     **************************************************************************************************************************   What twist do I need? Twist rates. Barrels can be had in 10, 8, 7 and now 6.5. If you plan on shooting supersonics then any of them will work but if you are going to be shooting subsonics then you must take the twist rate into consideration. The numbers below are generalizations and you must test to verify.    A 10 twist will stabilize most jacketed bullets up to 200 grain and most cast bullets up to 220 grains at 1,050 fps.   An 8 twist will stabilize most jacketed bullets up to 220 grain bullets and most cast bullets up to 250 grains at 1,050 fps.   A 7 twist will stabilize most jacketed bullets up to 240 grains and most cast bullets 250+ grains at 1,050 fps.   And the 6.5 twist is out there because there are rumors of a 260 grain Hornady Amax soon to be released.    With that being said you MUST verify your individual gun to ensure it is stabilizing the bullets. Shooting an unstable bullet will not harm anything unless you have a suppressor. To test shoot at a target 100 yards away without the suppressor on. Inspect the bullet hole in the target. It should be round and all edges look uniform. If the hold is oblong or has one edge that seems a more feathered than the other then the bullet is not stable.  If you find your load is NOT stabilized you either need to go to a lighter bullet or a faster velocity. Some 8 twist guns will stabilize 240 grain bullets and some won't so you MUST verify, especially if you are using a suppressor. I have a 10 twist gun that stablizes 245 grain cast bullets but I have had others that would not.         If anyone has any questions feel free to ask. I am sure I am missing a few things here. And remember the only dumb question is the one not asked.            

You cannot use deadly force to protect property. If someone already has stolen your property and is leaving you cannot shoot them. Or if someone is trying to steal your property you cannot shoot them. You can use whatever means needed to protect your property except deadly force or the threat of deadly force. Now if they escalate to deadly force while you are trying to protect your property then you can meet force with force. But if you find someone on your property you cannot shoot them unless they are a threat to your life or someone else's life, even if they have bypassed your gate or crossed fences.   If you are in your house and someone is trying to break in it doesn't automatically give you the right to shoot. Now if they are in the house and you are in fear for your life then you can shoot. Do not shoot from inside your home at anyone who is outside unless they are firing at you.   Up until they enter your residence the only crime they have committed is trespassing which is not justification for the use of deadly force.   You want to avoid conflicts at all cost and defuse them at the lowest level as possible. Shooting someone should be the absolutely last resort when all others have failed. Even if the shoot is justified you are going to find yourself in a place you don't want to be, both mentally and financially. The bad guy's family can sue you and it will cost you thousands to defend yourself. I know a justified shooting excempts someone from beind sued but it still takes a court hearing to get the case thrown out and anyone who goes to court on something serious without an attorney is asking for trouble. And imagine in the off chance the authorities think it was not justified, that can cost you a lot more than money.   99% of the time just yelling at a bad guy that the cops are on their way will make them flea.

Have you tried booting in safe mode and running the scan?

Calcium hypochlorite is much better than liquid bleach. Liquid bleach has lost most of its effectiveness in 6 months and is worthless after a year. Calcium hypochlorite can be found at pool supply stores. It remains stable as long as it remains dry. Once mixed with water it has the same properties as bleach. Solar is what I am going to use for long term lighting. I am not going to use it for anything else other than to keep the boogeyman away. All my batteries are rechargeable and my flashlights use rechargeable batteries. You really need more food. If nothing else just some beans and rice. One month is not long enough to get to harvesting of crops. If something happened today you are looking at 9+ months before harvest. Basic first aid. Benadryl and Ibuprofen are probably the biggest ones to stock up on. Antibiotics are also good but they can be expensive. Most pet medications are identical to human versions. Band aids and gauze are some things to have. And believe it or not but stock up on feminine hygiene products. Pads are sterile and work well for bandages. Tampons work well for puncture wounds. And both work well for tinder. I have a wood stove but I also have a multi fuel camping stove. I will use it to cook with when I do not have a fire going. A good set of cookware. Stainless steel will last a long time as will cast iron. Water storage is important. You can find plastic, food safe barrels on Craigslist for under $20. I would also suggest getting setup to can food when times are good. You can can almost any kind of food. I will post more tomorrow.

The scope is backwards.

  I have been running a polymer FCG for a while now without any issues. The trigger pull is heavy but other than that they are great triggers. There is ZERO creep in them.

  I wonder if you could use solar and a battery bank for power at the remote locations. I suspect the cameras do not use a lot of energy.   I know Mikegideon helped another member setup a battery operated camera to see targets at 1,000 yards. That would be farther than what you are needing. They use a 12v car battery to power it so I suspect solar would work fine.   Here is the thread about the target camera: http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=search&section=search&do=search&fromsearch=1 Using a different camera would not be a problem. And you could probably use the same transmitter and receiver.