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Welcome to TGO, Dave! I spent a little time on missouricarry.com a couple of years back, but never visited MOgunowners.com. Got a bunch of family in the Show Me state! Glad to have you here.

Welcome!

That's just saying that DUI is one of the few misdemeanors an officer cannot issue a misdemeanor citation in lieu of continued custody and must transport the arrested person to jail for. With the exception of when they need medical treatment. If they need medical treatment, they can be issued a misdemeanor cite so an officer doesn't have to sit with them all night (or longer) at the hospital. Or did I miss something?

I've been looking through TCA and AG opinions and cannot find anything. I think it is another one of those situations where you will not find a "NO" spelled out, so it's left to whomever to infer. 38-8-101 and other statutes that define LEOs fail to impose restrictions based on jurisdictional boundaries. They mainly just define a police officer as "person employed by any municipality or political subdivision of the state of Tennessee whose primary responsibility is the prevention and detection of crime, and the apprehension of offenders." Maybe there is case law on it somewhere that I'm not finding?

According to their email, it'll start shipping Feb 1st. I've got the feeling there'll be a wait just like there was for the LCP. I'll miss you, Bronker!

Wow. Sounds like a lot of folks were involved who don't know what the heck they were doing.

Looks like, down the road, there might even be the option of adding night sights or other aftermarket sights.

Yeah, but David's post has more info than what I posted. David, feel free to delete mine if you'd like.

Apparently this leaked a little early: Ruger launches its new LC9 « Gun Nuts Media

Rock on!

Not the original quote, but he took the concept to a whole new level!

"The best thing about the internet is that you can post a quote and totally make up the source." -Abraham Lincoln

Awesome song!

Not 100% about these guys, but my money would be on them having a MNPD commission and the same general jurisdiction as the regular MNPD officers. Again, as long as they're certified LEO's (which they have to be), they can enforce state laws anywhere in the state.

This brings up another point I didn't address in the other jurisdiction thread - ordinances. Only officers/deputies commissioned by the local body can enforce those ordinances. For example, if I stopped a car in Memphis for speeding, I could charge them for the county ordinance for speeding since I have a county commission and the offense occurred within the county's limits, or I could charge them for violation of the TCA for speeding, but I could not charge them with Memphis's city ordinance for speeding. I could, however, stop them and call a Memphis officer down who could write the violator a citation for Memphis's ordinance for speeding based off of my observation (if I felt like waiting 45 minutes for a MPD car to show up). Confused yet?

OK, I'll try to help in this one best I can. I was doing a public relations event with a TVA officer at the local utility company's annual employee picnic and I asked about their jurisdiction. IIRC, he said that they are Federal police officers and carry a federal commission, but they carry state commissions as well (TN POST issues a POST certificate after they finish their academy at FLETC). I think he said as long as they have one state commission, it's reciprocal in other states while they're in performance of their TVA duties. For a uniformed officer like TVA, it's pretty much necessary to have a state commission as well. A federal commission would work for some offenses, but not all. The federal commission only allows them to enforce US laws. If they wanted to arrest for an offense that there's no federal law for (maybe DUI or simple assault?), they have to carry a state commission that allows them to charge people for breaking state laws and send those charges through state court. I know that he said they carry the TN uniform citation (like THP) that allows them to charge any misdemeanor (including traffic violations) and send them through whichever county court the offense occurred in. Y'all are getting into some really confusing stuff!

The Wal-mart on Germantown Road in Cordova and the one in Bartlett on 64 have long guns. Mostly hunting style rifles, some 10/22s, maybe a Mini-14 or two. Nothing tacti-cool.

Also, since the OP brought up THP... the following is my understanding based on what I've been told by some Troopers I've gone through classes with. THP is tasked with investigations and enforcement of laws on state and federal highways / interstates everywhere in the state. However, a city or county can choose to essentially "take over" the highways in their jurisdiction. The local jurisdiction will then be expected to investigate all crashes and enforce the laws on those sections of roadway, but the trade-off is that they get funding from the state and federal government for doing so. Of course, Troopers still have jurisdiction in these municipalities if they choose to stop someone or make an arrest, but they won't be called to work accidents. For the guys in the Memphis area, you'll notice that you rarely see a THP car in the Memphis area, unless it's on their way to the substation on Hwy 70.

Lester, in a situation like that, both city A and city B could show up, restore order, and make arrests. They'd then just hand over the arrestee to a deputy who would place the charges.

EDIT: 56 beat me to it.

First of all, all police officers have "general jurisdiction" anywhere up to a mile outside of their city limits with only a few exceptions. From TCA: Secondly, any certified LEO in TN carries his powers anywhere in the state. If I go to Knoxville, I can make an arrest the same as I can at home. The only issue is that I don't have the right "paperwork" for the arrest, be that the misdemeanor cite, affidavit, arrest ticket, or whatever used by the jurisdiction I am in. Also, I'm gonna have fun figuring out how/when to get to court. Luckily, there is another option. I could arrest the person and hand them over to another LEO in their jurisdiction and let them place the charges based off of my observations. If I was in Jackson TN in my squad car for a training class and clocked someone doing 55 in a 35, I could pull them over and let Jackson PD come write them a ticket based on my observations (not that I'd probably be so inclinded to do it, but it's perfectly legal). This part doesn't have as much to do with the OP's question, but I figured I'd throw it out there in case anyone was curious. Thirdly, to address what GhostFace38 was talking about... some city officers, usually investigators, have deputy commissions issued from the Sheriff. That way, when you are out of your city on an investigation, or when an investigation takes you outside of your city, you can still work it and have the right paperwork and feel better knowing that everything you're doing is with the blessing of the CLEO of the county, even though it's not completely necessary. When I became a traffic investigator and started spending half my career in Memphis hunting down hit & run drivers, I got a county commission. GhostFace works for a municipal PD, but goes all over the county making DUI arrests as part of the Metro DUI squad. Same deal for him, just different duties. If we make an arrest in our city, we take them to our jail and use our paperwork. If we were to arrest someone in Memphis or out in the county, we'd use the Sheriff Office paperwork and transport them to the county jail. Just saves us from having to get assistance from another agency or deal with a court system we're not too familiar with.

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I've got some, but wanted to add to the stash. Of course, it's easier to collect rifle ammo when there's nowhere to shoot it...