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+1, What he said . . . :-(

I guess I'm a Zero level NRA Member now. They sent me so much junk mail I dropped them!

This was sent to me, long but good readng . . . . . . THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION Just a Shotgun You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear,You hear muffled whispers. At least two people have broken into your House and are moving your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows. One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire. The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble. In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to make them useless.. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree Murder and Illegal possession of a firearm. When you talk to your attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plead the case down to manslaughter. "What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask. "Only ten-to-twelve years," He replies, as if that's nothing. "Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven." The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been arrested numerous times. but the next day's headline says it all: "Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up, Then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk hero. Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects. After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you were lying in wait for the burglars. A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been reduced as your lawyer had so confidently predicted. When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works against you. Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't take long for the jury to convict you of all charges. The judge sentences you to life in prison. This case really happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term. How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once great British Empire ? It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only handguns but all firearms except shotguns. Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all shotguns. Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed man with a Kalashnikov rifle, walked down the streets shooting everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead. The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of "gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a rifle.) Nine years later, at Dunblane, Scotland,Thomas Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public school. For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press had a real kook with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed the fate of the few sidearms still owned by private citizens. During the years in which the British government incrementally took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real criminals were released. Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own hands. "All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times,and several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of antiques,had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by burglars. When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly 200,000 handguns from private citizens. How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kind of like cars. Sound familiar? WAKE UP AMERICA! THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION."

In additiion to those mentioned above, the SR9 & SR9c

The PF9 as much as I tried to like it just didn't work out for me (I had two of them). Yes they are inexpensive and slim but I couldn't get either to work dependably for me. I sent one of them back to Keltec to have it reworked and they were great on their customer service. Niether of mine could get thru a box of ammo without several FTF's and were not very accurate. I know several of you will disagree and say yours runs excellent but I did all the mods on my early serial# and then purchased a later model thinking the QC had improved. Sorry to say it did not improve on either of my units. I moved on to other brands (see below)

In addition to those listed, Ruger SR9 & SR9c

I've tried many "pocket carry" guns and the P238 is my choice. You can carry it condition 1 w/wo saftey on and it fits nicely in the back pocket. It's night sights are some of the brightest out there!

Two here :-)

Glock 27: Night Sights Extended mag release Extended slide release Glock 32: Streamlight (rail) Extended mag release Extended slide release Check ut this mod . . . . . .:-))

9 to 5 Saturday then again Sunday Lebanon Fairgrounds

I used to have the Kimber Ultra Crimson Trace II and it was a very reliable and accurarte weapon. I sold it and bought the Ultra Carry ll. I found for me personally as a Lefthander I preferred night sights and a Ambi safety instead. The only thing I found the Crimson really good at (for me) on the Kimber, My Glock and my Sig was for target accuracy and assessment. In the middle of the night when the BG kicks in my door a rail mounted streamlight is more to my liking.

Oh boy . . . here we go !

I L o v e mine (Ultra Carry ll) but I did buy some McCormick and Wilson magazines for it. You can't go wrong with these two magazine brands

That's too bad, I'm on my second SR9c now (purchased 7/11) and with over 500 rounds through it I haven't had a single issue. In fact this is one of the most reliable models I've ever fired. Did you try both magazines and different ammo? It's possible to have a defective gun, Ruger is known for excellent customer service so clean it first, try it again before you send it in. possible problems: Too much factory grease (clean it really good) Striker sticking Magazine issue poor ammo Don't give up on it, good luck!

My computr's power supply burn't up after the 83rd viewing and I'm still trying to find the Glock!

I've always loved my little Kahr PM9 but felt like they dropped the ball on the way the silver Mag hangs out of the bottom of the black body. It just looks sloppy to me. I'd post a finish photo if I could figure out how but basically what I did was to mask off the top half of each mag and spray the rest with Krylon semi gloss black paint. Now it looks much better to me.

You obviously place the Wilson Combat and Night Hawk Custom 1911's in a much higher esteem than most of us! I'll keep what I have thank you.

I'm going to check them out

I have one and use it for "skimpy clothing days" or as a backup to my 1911 45. I've never had any issues with mine and after owning 3 other 380 pistols feel this one is superior to my previous bug guns. I like the 1911 style and feel plus the cock n lock safety as well. I also have the extended magazines (7+1).

With 9 Guitars of my own I no longer visit their stores.

Well after selling my Ruger SR9c back in March and regretting it ever since I just couldn't help myself. Those gun cases out at D&T Arms are so perfectly arranged and purty, I caved in and bought another SR9c! This time I got the all black finish, David said these are pretty hard to come by for some reason right now so he ordered it for me Thursday and called today to say it had arrived. In case anyone is interested he has one more SR9c stainless in stock and several SR9 and SR40 models as well. I recall my previous one would fire anything I stuffed into it without neary a peep. I'm a 1911 guy at heart but the ambidextrous safety and mag release on this model make this Lefty happy.

HEY! That's the one I reported Stolen to the Police Dept 2 weeks ago ! ! ! ! !

D&T Arms across from Rivergate Mall on 2mile Pkwy

Ditto! I wish I had not sold mine, I'm waiting on the SR40c now . . . heh, heh.

. . . .been there, Done that! And I'll do it again, not only do they have a great selection but they know their weaponry and are very capable in the arms department plus, Veteran Owned!. I've purchased a couple of weapons there as well as ammo and accessories and have been quite pleased each time. I'm also glad to see them sponsor this terrific resource we know as TGO Forums! BTW, Sweet Glock!