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Punching through isn't the issue, sagging is. People are considered "dynamic loads" as they don't sit in the same spot for years. The safe will sit in the same spot for years and years. The floor will begin to sag and pull the adjacent walls with it.... the sheetrock will crack, doors won't swing or shut properly anymore, and it's easily prevented. As Lester suggested, some blocking between the joists, a post footer, and a floor joist jack. Should cost less than $100 and take a couple hours to do. Blocking between joists and they've laminated additional joists to the existing ones. Floor jack post.

    The chances of the bolt holes just happening to line up with the joists are really small.  Zero if you're me.   I hope you reinforced the floor to support the weight of the safe.  If not, do that first and make some provisions to bolt it down in the process.  The unistrut across a couple joists is an excellent idea.    Homes are typically constructed with a 40 lbs/sqft static load rating.  Google tells me your safe is about 2ft x 2ft = 4 sqft and that it weights 410 lbs (empty!).  That's 102 lbs/sqft... more than double what your floor is designed to support.

    Just remember that straw purchases are illegal. 

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There's so many options out there, it's best to visit a range with some rentals and try them all.  Pick the one you shoot the best.

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Riddle me this.....    When it's 40 deg we get snow.  When it's 29 deg we get rain.  Whazupwidat?   :squint:

Sweet.  I want one too.

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Willis Cycle Works....   http://www.williscycleworks.com/

  No.  Got it in the mail a couple weeks later. 

Not good here, freezing rain.  They've brined and salted but the roads are potentially pretty ugly.  Wait until it warms up.j

Gee.... cheap gun cabinets don't work quite as well as 10x more expensive safes.  There's a shocker.   I know full well that the cabinets I have provide near zero security from a skilled theif or fire.  But they do keep my kids out, and that's all I intend them for.

Are you sure you really want to carry a man-purse every day?  I have one and use it fairly regularly, but not every day.  I keep it in the car so it doubles as a "get home bag".   http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/35252-thinking-about-a-versipack/     http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/topic/44829-got-a-man-purse-today/

I did mine at the DMV and it took 15 minutes.  Would have been 10 but the lady that did it had never done one before and had to ask for help.

  I didn't mean to imply it was a bad thing.  I'm quite pleased that so many business owners decided to voice their opinion in such a strong way. 

    Voted on?  Why waste time and money letting the people decided when they can decide for us?  After all, that's why we elected them...    :shake: 

Most excellent.  Care to identify the business?

    That's like seeing your job listed in the want ads.  :rofl:   Though this "You're either with us, or against us" attitude is likely to alienate more than a few. 

Interesting that the M1A isn't on the list.

    While I'm not a big REM fan, I do like this song.  This sounds like the Disney version.  :-\   Being a metal/blues fan, most anything in a major key sounds like a kids song to me. 

    If you're hosting it, you shouldn't be buying anything.  Let us know what's needed and we'll take care of it.

At the end of the day, nothing inside a modern (wood & sheet rock) house is "cover" with the exception of a big gun safe. 

I go to Natural Smiles (Dr. Evans or Dr. Holmes) in Maryville and have been quite happy.  That's rather a long drive for you, but maybe worth a call.    http://naturalsmiles.biz/

I'm interested and Sundays are usually ok.  You could show off the forge too...